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Pizzalawyer ago

Why does David need to do original research in order to be credible? It's great to have someone sift through material and separate the good from the bad evidence. So he finds good research that we may overlook. Ideally he should be giving credit to the original researcher. David also does pedo news analysis and that's another important function a journalist/commentator can perform. When he's not talking about himself, he provides some very robust insight into matters. So why don't we just appreciate him for the talents he does have and quit harping on his limitations which we all have.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Thank you! I've been saying this about numerous YouTubers that get shit on perpetually here on Voat. Literally every single YouTube channel that discusses this topic with a high follower count is instantly labeled as a shill. Whether or not they do original research.

People need to respect the simple fact that this is exposing more people to our combined efforts. Is everything 100% accurate? Maybe not. Is everything 1st party research? Maybe not.

But you've got douche bags posting every image of a swirl they can find and getting commended for it, discovering absolutely nothing else in terms of meaningful evidence, it never gets a single dot connected to another data point, and that is somehow upvoated like crazy with people saying "Great find!"... it's totally ridiculous.

UnicornAndSparkles ago

But you've got douche bags posting every image of a swirl they can find and getting commended for it, discovering absolutely nothing else in terms of meaningful evidence, it never gets a single dot connected to another data point, and that is somehow upvoated like crazy with people saying "Great find!"... it's totally ridiculous.

I think we need a seperate sub for the peado swirls / ping pong table / hot dog etc appearances. I can see your annoyance of them filling up the front page, however, they are relevant when it comes to building up evidence to the extent of this "mind control" through subliminal messaging.

Couldn't agree more with everything else you say!

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Ok, I can see your line of thinking - but, there needs to be actual evidence of mind control. MKUltra is one thing, that is active and declassified. Swirls on cereal boxes and cartoons that don't truly resemble the FBI symbols released? Feels like a huge reach to me.

I'm all for it if there is evidence, but, having a really difficult time connecting a passive swirl to mind control.

UnicornAndSparkles ago

Are you from US?

I'm from the UK and there is an "illusionist" called Derren Brown. He subliminally put pictures of arrow targets and other symbols in newspaper articles over a week. He had a series of interactive live shows and for one he asked people to get a pen and paper and draw what came to mind. I did this with a big group of friends and the ones of us who read newspapers drew the symbols.

They aren't still spending millions and billions on advertising research for no reason. How many adverts do you see and hear on a daily basis without even knowing you are.

I do see what you mean about the spiral as apposed to the triangle spiral but at this point we just never know.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Definitely, there is an impact for sure... but, there needs to be some* dots connected. "At this point we just never know" - that's my only concern. We're connecting symbols to unrelated things and then just making a huge leap to an assumption that there's nefarious activity on the back-end.

This is different when we see symbols that are an EXACT match to the FBI document, contained on clothing/music videos/logos of businesses and organizations that are implicated in PG already.

But, Doritos and Rice Crispy Treats? If there's smoke, there could* be fire, but we need to find at least a wisp of smoke before calling out swirls... again, if we see an EXACT match to a recognized symbol, that's a whole different story.