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equineluvr ago

I'm not into the Rich case at all -- in fact, I think the entire thing is BS. However, I'm still up so decided to watch.

Sooo.....

According to Wheeler, he never bothered to verify what the Fox News chick told him about the "credible source." He just took it at face value that Seth had been in email contact with WikiLeaks.

There is a schism within the Rich family. Parents want the "crime" solved, someone else -- presumably the brother Aaron -- does not.

The Rich family does not want Wheeler's report to be released under any circumstances. Wheeler, OTOH, has publicly appealed to the family since he wants to release his report. His attorney and their attorney are holding discussions/negotiations RE this.

Sweigert mentions -- in all seriousness, as though it were real -- the FAKE Gabby Giffords "shooting." How fitting!

ArtificalDuality ago

Yes, I have come to the comclusion Seth Rich is part of the grander psy-op designed to cause armed revolution.

There's way too much stink surrounding the issue from MANY angles. SR takes a lot of citizen capacity off of the real issue: Nefarious criminal sectarian syndicate members getting away with heinous acts as they practice their Luciferist aspirations.

It is very complex and would need me pages to explain all of this; but applying the basic rules (Occam's razor), narrative control etc. would still draw a picture:

Mind you that Seth Rich initially had nothing to do with PG; at least, has no more to do with it than DNC corruption.

In the Bigger Picture I have come to the conclusion that Hillary Clinton was no longer the intended candidate even well before the elections ended. However, the NWO, through media still kept to the illusion of her being the preferred candidate. However, this illusion was not so much intended to the PUBLIC. No, the illusion was primarily targeted at the Clinton Sphere.

Why would they turn on Hillary? Well... that has to do with the nature of evil. Evil will consume itself. Meaning, evil people will always be in competition with one-other and will only work together out of necessity. Due to our biology, we are dealing with two types of humans. Males and females. Evil men and evil women will always be in competition with one other.

Hillary Clinton rose to power as a female. Got addicted to it. NWO support made her audacious and bold. But that does not take away the sub-current competition elements. Hillary liked hugging it up with Lynn Forrester de Rothschild where Lynn stated "I miss you!". Hillary Clinton with her Clinton Cartel was seriously working herself into the Rothschild sphere. As a highly dominant, leading female. And from the occult perspective, and per Guccifer's statement, being an occult high-priestess.

In a future NWO, the Clinton Cartel may have caused a serious power threat to the Rothschilds through sheer influence of the Clinton Sphere on the globe. Rothschild has a male at the top. Clinton has a female at the top. Both evil; yet in competition. After all, the Clintons were A LOT more visible to the global populace than are the Rothschilds. She was using that as a power leverage.

Even though the NWO didn't really want Trump to begin with; they chose Trump as a better option than Hillary. Go from this view perspective...

Now you see why SR has played an pivotal part, along with complicit WikiLeaks and complicit Kim.COM in bringing down the entirety of DNC while Hillary was still clinging to the Russia-Did-It narrative, while the NWO had already 'parked' the Russia issue and instead divert attention to North Korea... and Iran. Iran is now the NWO's short-term prime target. USA+UK pumping SA full of weaponry etc. Russia is on their back-burner. But to not give that away too much, we still have this "Reality Winner" NSA Russia-hacking psy-op that made its show debut today. It's a sloppy one though. To hint at, ok, some Russians still involved, but not focus narrative on it too overly. This psy-op has been made to be bust.

Besides using Seth Rich to bring down the Clinton Sphere, the false flag is also used for the purpose I mentioned in the opening paragraph. That's why there's a photo of SR in an all-American Stars 'n Stripes tenue. And it is you, citizen researchers, that allowed me to establish this conclusion based upon all the oddities regarding SR you dug up.

ArtificalDuality ago

Well, looks like we've got more intervalidation for my analysis here:

"Jason Goodman: if you are questioning the Seth Rich files, you are crapping on this investigation"

Webb and Goodman have both been identified as DISINFOs. With the above statement Goodman basically says "STICK TO SR AND STAY IN OUR MENTAL CAGE".

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1913813

They're both damage controlling and steering the narrative towards DNC implosion. The DNC / SR combo are their current "decoy-magnets" to again, cull this bit of the Deep State and focus citizen research on just this sector of the Deepstate Zone, keeping y'all away from the really incriminating stuff: Satanic human trafficking.

bopper + DarkMath also actively support and push these DISINFO agents.


I'm really getting to the point I'd almost advice people to drop and leave VOAT for the crapper hole it has become. There must be better places that are not NWO controlled.

bopper ago

@ArtificalDuality do a little research, everybody here knows I think Webb is an idiot larper. You are smearing my pristine reputation! Can I get a witness??

I challenge you now to a cosmic duel! In a third dimension if you prefer. You saying Hillary wasn't supposed to win is quite a stretch btw.

And while I'm at it, NASA is a hoax K?

ArtificalDuality ago

Hmm.. what do you think of this?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-06/third-london-terrorist-named-22-year-old-youssef-zahgba#comment-9666060

... and this ...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-06/third-london-terrorist-named-22-year-old-youssef-zahgba#comment-9666018

? I'm still bothered by you not being able to answer the simple question of morality I posed a couple of months ago. Once you can do that, you'll receive my clearance :)

bopper ago

Haven't been following the attacks, no time right now. I do believe Operation Gladio is still in effect. Don't know what the London attacks have to do w/ what we're talking about.

Because you're bothered about my answer to your posed morality question doesn't make me a Webb flag waver (I'm just the opposite).

You're atheist or agnostic I think, and that's what bothers you about me. You know this quote right? "The greatest hindrance to discovery is not ignorance but the illusion of knowledge."

At least we agree about Dr. Judy Wood (I think). You believe in theories right? Like the "theory" of gravity and relativity? Walk outside. Do you feel yourself spinning? Is China underneath you?

ArtificalDuality ago

What's up with that? Ofcourse I don't feel myself spinning and ofcourse China is below me on the other side. Why would you ask that?

bopper ago

I asked you that so that I might remind you to rely on your own senses, and not so much in theories. Gotta run, I'll talk to you later.

of course China is below me on the other side

You sound quite dogmatic and assured. How do you know? Because of what you've been told, and shown from NASA? Like everyone else?

ArtificalDuality ago

NASA shows us nice space pictures. What has that to do with China and gravity?

bopper ago

If NASA is showing us fake pics then maybe they hoaxed us on the moon landings also (which they did) and are possibly also continuing to play a role in perpetuating an even greater cover-up concerning the cosmos.

If so, what if that particular cover-up can be easily discerned by simply opening our eyes, suspending judgement (and questioning theories no matter how longstanding), and relying on our senses and common sense (which is not very common w/ pseudo-scientists of today or even yesteryear), and what other "everyday people" are discovering more and more w/ the plethora of new technologies available to them today.

Why did Hillary in her speech the other day mention "science deniers" even before pizzagate. She couldn't have been talking about climate change because what she was talking about would "hit you right in the face" within ten minutes of "logging onto the internet." Climate change is not that popular an internet topic.

Maybe there are things that we have learned that need to be unlearned, and maybe it's quite simpler a matter to achieve such learning and info than we believe.

Have you seen The Principle? It's a good "starting off" point but largely disinfo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8cBvMCucTg

ArtificalDuality ago

Na I haven't seen it. I'm not easily coaxed though. But, I suppose you were not intending to show me a movie trailer. You are leading up to something that would supposedly shatter my belief system.. no? Well.. I'm ready. Throw it at me.

bopper ago

I've no interest in purposely shattering anyone's belief system, that's quite a feat anyway, my only interest is the truth. And I'm not on the offensive here.

You and I can agree and disagree on various and sundry things. but calling me a GWebb shill is below the belt stuff :) I would appreciate a retraction of your statement. But suit yourself.

ArtificalDuality ago

I will retract if you will update me on what you were about to say about NASA. Now I'm curious.

srayzie ago

Maybe @bopper is a Russian spy 😮

bopper ago

Thank-you @srayzie. That's much better than being called a GWebb shill and it pays a lot more that I can tell you.

srayzie ago

No problem!