If you are interested in the Seth Rich murder, you need to listen to this interview in its entirety regardless of the debate as to George Webb's real motives. Wheeler is articulate and forthright. There is something about Seth that the family is divided about disclosing. The father who wants to solve the murder gave Wheeler some personal info that perhaps he would have preferred not sharing but felt Wheeler needed to know it to do a proper investigation and Wheeler preserved that confidentiality. Meanwhile the brother felt there was no need to pursue the murder perhaps because he wants to safeguard the same personal information and the true story of Seth's murder is not going to bring him back, so why bother. Wheeler also believes there is some connection to Shawn Lucas' death but is not at liberty to discuss it.