We have also been told it was NOT them. The "obituary" anonymously posted on that website could have easily been planted disinfo. We haven't confirmed at all that he worked for the Clinton campaign. Also, it's SEIU.
I know I typed it wrong sorry. Realize that there has been mention it is not the gold van. That might actually be the disinfo versus the obituary. A researcher has found a direct connection by name.
Since we have pretty much bee running with what anon has told us (I was pretty excited too about the two guys) I am thinking that maybe he is right and that maybe these two guys did something else nefarious that they were payed off for but were offed for damage control. Remember they had quite a few people already on their kill list. I too think these guys might be really important but for another reason than Seth Rich. That is of course if anon is right. I have found an article that is very telling and when I get my thoughts together I will put it in the comments. It all started with something a friend told me yesterday at lunch. That Seth wore a watch that you could put a flash drive in. A watch that holds a flash drive. In this article it mentions him handing a flash drive over.
That is interesting. Yes Seth was involved in handing off flashdrives to "sources" that delivered them to Wikileaks. I always wondered why it stated in the police report that nothing was stolen from him but "his watch was torn" Always found that strange. Most watches do not tear and it is an odd fact to list in the police report that was intentionally repeated by the Parents.
This has always been strange to me it is not a fact most people remember about a murder. Almost like it was a message to someone like "his watch was torn (we got the flash drive)"
There were other drops though maybe they thought they had intercepted the drop then killed him but it was sloppy.
I think that he was gone far too long without us knowing where he was after he left Lou's. I think somehow he was called and they questioned him, this verified that they were right. They were going to kill him and they also knew somehow that he had a flash drive in his watch. They tried to get it, but the cops were coming and had to leave. I think he had already passed that flash drive on to Craig Murray. That is why the watch band was twisted and torn. I am going to put my thoughts into the comments about this other article soon. My head is really screwed up after reading it.
Yes I also wrote about this earlier and believe you are right. Reading the statement of the "watch being torn" was odd from the beginning. Intentional and repeated as if they were trying to send a message that they had gotten the drive.
Honestly this feels like he was set up ahead of time. Joe Capone in the Whitehouse with felon SCEIU and Obama friend felon Bob Creamer 4 days before.
Capone admits to being present with Seth the night of his death at Lou's bar. He describes Seth as "being drunker than ever" and even offered him a ride home.
Seth leaves but goes missing for at least two hours. Gunshots are heard via shot-spotter and he is found shot in the back. Alive & talking with watch torn. Bruising on hands etc. showing signs of struggle.
He goes to hospital, has surgery then dies after being stable.
Joe Capone lies last week and says he was out of town with his family that night. No investigation. FBI guns go missing.
I could go on. There is something called a "dying declaration" in law enforcement. When someone is a victim of a crime and their lives are in peril officers must stay with the victim to take all statements. This includes in the Ambulance. Hospital, etc. The officer is trained to get as much crucial information as possible. The identity of suspects, or descriptions, associations, conflicts, etc. In case the victim dies these statements can be used in court as evidence bypassing hearsay in testimony by the officer.
The D.C. Police would be mandated to be with him in the Ambulance, the EMT's would be interviewed as part of the homicide investigation. The autopsy would be included which could identify the caliper of bullet used and at what distance he was shot based on the wound.
Seth's hands would have been bagged immediately so scrapping of DNA from his finger nails could be made due to the physical struggle.
I could go on. I believe as you do. Something was slipped in his drink (truth serum" there was an attempted interrogation about who else he had spoken to. Shawn Lucas died next.
Then some altercation happened or they just leaked the torn watch story as a warning to others that they got the flash drive. The weapon will come back to one of the FBI weapons reported stolen.
I totally agree. About the flash drive, either it was already gone and he had given it to Murray, or yes you are right, they got it that night. And Yes, vomiting. I thought I had cried the last time over Seth. But now I am doing it again. I wonder when it will stop? My husband and two friends keep asking me how long will you go on with this? Till we are done. Until we get justice for the patriotic kid that stole our hearts.
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Millennial_Falcon ago
We have also been told it was NOT them. The "obituary" anonymously posted on that website could have easily been planted disinfo. We haven't confirmed at all that he worked for the Clinton campaign. Also, it's SEIU.
Jem777 ago
I know I typed it wrong sorry. Realize that there has been mention it is not the gold van. That might actually be the disinfo versus the obituary. A researcher has found a direct connection by name.
carmencita ago
Since we have pretty much bee running with what anon has told us (I was pretty excited too about the two guys) I am thinking that maybe he is right and that maybe these two guys did something else nefarious that they were payed off for but were offed for damage control. Remember they had quite a few people already on their kill list. I too think these guys might be really important but for another reason than Seth Rich. That is of course if anon is right. I have found an article that is very telling and when I get my thoughts together I will put it in the comments. It all started with something a friend told me yesterday at lunch. That Seth wore a watch that you could put a flash drive in. A watch that holds a flash drive. In this article it mentions him handing a flash drive over.
Jem777 ago
That is interesting. Yes Seth was involved in handing off flashdrives to "sources" that delivered them to Wikileaks. I always wondered why it stated in the police report that nothing was stolen from him but "his watch was torn" Always found that strange. Most watches do not tear and it is an odd fact to list in the police report that was intentionally repeated by the Parents.
This has always been strange to me it is not a fact most people remember about a murder. Almost like it was a message to someone like "his watch was torn (we got the flash drive)"
There were other drops though maybe they thought they had intercepted the drop then killed him but it was sloppy.
carmencita ago
I think that he was gone far too long without us knowing where he was after he left Lou's. I think somehow he was called and they questioned him, this verified that they were right. They were going to kill him and they also knew somehow that he had a flash drive in his watch. They tried to get it, but the cops were coming and had to leave. I think he had already passed that flash drive on to Craig Murray. That is why the watch band was twisted and torn. I am going to put my thoughts into the comments about this other article soon. My head is really screwed up after reading it.
Jem777 ago
Yes I also wrote about this earlier and believe you are right. Reading the statement of the "watch being torn" was odd from the beginning. Intentional and repeated as if they were trying to send a message that they had gotten the drive.
Honestly this feels like he was set up ahead of time. Joe Capone in the Whitehouse with felon SCEIU and Obama friend felon Bob Creamer 4 days before.
Capone admits to being present with Seth the night of his death at Lou's bar. He describes Seth as "being drunker than ever" and even offered him a ride home.
Seth leaves but goes missing for at least two hours. Gunshots are heard via shot-spotter and he is found shot in the back. Alive & talking with watch torn. Bruising on hands etc. showing signs of struggle.
He goes to hospital, has surgery then dies after being stable.
Joe Capone lies last week and says he was out of town with his family that night. No investigation. FBI guns go missing.
I could go on. There is something called a "dying declaration" in law enforcement. When someone is a victim of a crime and their lives are in peril officers must stay with the victim to take all statements. This includes in the Ambulance. Hospital, etc. The officer is trained to get as much crucial information as possible. The identity of suspects, or descriptions, associations, conflicts, etc. In case the victim dies these statements can be used in court as evidence bypassing hearsay in testimony by the officer.
The D.C. Police would be mandated to be with him in the Ambulance, the EMT's would be interviewed as part of the homicide investigation. The autopsy would be included which could identify the caliper of bullet used and at what distance he was shot based on the wound.
Seth's hands would have been bagged immediately so scrapping of DNA from his finger nails could be made due to the physical struggle.
I could go on. I believe as you do. Something was slipped in his drink (truth serum" there was an attempted interrogation about who else he had spoken to. Shawn Lucas died next.
Then some altercation happened or they just leaked the torn watch story as a warning to others that they got the flash drive. The weapon will come back to one of the FBI weapons reported stolen.
Vomiting
carmencita ago
I totally agree. About the flash drive, either it was already gone and he had given it to Murray, or yes you are right, they got it that night. And Yes, vomiting. I thought I had cried the last time over Seth. But now I am doing it again. I wonder when it will stop? My husband and two friends keep asking me how long will you go on with this? Till we are done. Until we get justice for the patriotic kid that stole our hearts.