I think it's safe to assume that pied pipers and provocateurs have been among us from the beginning! It's just ramped up a significant notch now that Reddit denizens are flooding in...
Unfortunately no, it's beyond my ability to formulate any kind of effective plan to combat a shapeshifting and relentless enemy. The problem really lies in our false hope as a community that a hero will come along and save the day! Dotcom, Assange, Snowden et al and even Gowdy are all controlled opposition IMO. There is just no way in this version of reality that any of these personalities would be given the airtime and attention they receive if they were a genuine threat to the status quo. We should not hold a candle to anyone but continue to diligently observe, investigate and disseminate our findings. We out number them significantly and can match them with our collective 'smarts' but we need to grow the fuck up and see our adversary for the cunning, omnipresent and audacious entity that it is.
Agreed. We can't look for heroes to save us. We have to save ourselves-- as a united community of the people. It's long overdue that we need to govern and police ourselves, and not rely on others to do that for us. So to that end, we need to spread out information far and wide and help wake up the masses so that as a group we can demand justice. We've been doing that somewhat, but we need to REALLY do it. How many times did each of us have to hear about Pizzagate before we finally realized that it's real? Others may take even longer. We need to keep hammering on this because it's our best hope for success.
So to that end, we need to spread out information far and wide and help wake up the masses so that as a group we can demand justice
Demand justice from whom? If the entire system is utterly compromised from top to bottom then you're proposing to plead for justice from the very people murdering us.
Your question is at the heart of it. Entire civilizations have fallen because the people lost faith in their leaders. And on the other side of it, historically, humans have put too much faith and hope and power into those we elect into office or allow to be in office because they inherited it through bloodlines.
We know that those at the top are the most culpable. As people gain power, they too often become corrupt and compromised. But there are people who are not in positions of power right now who in their hearts, minds, and actions are not corrupt or evil. They're human and so they'll make mistakes but we can hold them accountable and they can learn.
We have to start fresh and we have to rewrite some of the rules, but it will be possible. And because we'll have collectively woken up, we'll be on guard-- forever, unless we fall asleep again and then the cycle will start over.
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Amino69 ago
I think it's safe to assume that pied pipers and provocateurs have been among us from the beginning! It's just ramped up a significant notch now that Reddit denizens are flooding in...
IAMDeMolay ago
Nearly the entire PG community are getting polarized by phony stuff. Any ideas how best we can naturalize this threat?
Amino69 ago
Unfortunately no, it's beyond my ability to formulate any kind of effective plan to combat a shapeshifting and relentless enemy. The problem really lies in our false hope as a community that a hero will come along and save the day! Dotcom, Assange, Snowden et al and even Gowdy are all controlled opposition IMO. There is just no way in this version of reality that any of these personalities would be given the airtime and attention they receive if they were a genuine threat to the status quo. We should not hold a candle to anyone but continue to diligently observe, investigate and disseminate our findings. We out number them significantly and can match them with our collective 'smarts' but we need to grow the fuck up and see our adversary for the cunning, omnipresent and audacious entity that it is.
SoldierofLight ago
Agreed. We can't look for heroes to save us. We have to save ourselves-- as a united community of the people. It's long overdue that we need to govern and police ourselves, and not rely on others to do that for us. So to that end, we need to spread out information far and wide and help wake up the masses so that as a group we can demand justice. We've been doing that somewhat, but we need to REALLY do it. How many times did each of us have to hear about Pizzagate before we finally realized that it's real? Others may take even longer. We need to keep hammering on this because it's our best hope for success.
thelandofchocolate ago
Demand justice from whom? If the entire system is utterly compromised from top to bottom then you're proposing to plead for justice from the very people murdering us.
SoldierofLight ago
Your question is at the heart of it. Entire civilizations have fallen because the people lost faith in their leaders. And on the other side of it, historically, humans have put too much faith and hope and power into those we elect into office or allow to be in office because they inherited it through bloodlines.
We know that those at the top are the most culpable. As people gain power, they too often become corrupt and compromised. But there are people who are not in positions of power right now who in their hearts, minds, and actions are not corrupt or evil. They're human and so they'll make mistakes but we can hold them accountable and they can learn.
We have to start fresh and we have to rewrite some of the rules, but it will be possible. And because we'll have collectively woken up, we'll be on guard-- forever, unless we fall asleep again and then the cycle will start over.