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Candygram_for_Mongo ago

James Alefantis and David Brock are homosexual deviants. Child fuckers both of them, that's how they practice religion to Satan.

Silex ago

Hetero here. Humans aren't the only species having gay behavior. Many others have sex with same sex partners for different reasons in nature. I understand what you are saying is related to religious (Christianity?) traditionalism, but I'm not sure that putting homosexuality in the same corner as pedophilia will get us anywhere. Pedophilia/Luciferianism is the real problem, regardless of faiths. And as far as human beings go, they don't choose their true preference(s), regardless of all the left BS and other Bill Nyegans.

Candygram_for_Mongo ago

Humans are the only species with a concise. Non-humans don't prefer or seek out same-sex relations. The animal world instances are propaganda not truth. Hetero here as well but I don't care if you are gay, choose whatever path is yours. I just don't want my kids taught that it is perfectly normal. The vast majority of pedophile cases involves same-sex is what I've learned from others who were abused. Deviancy is homosexuality, it is not natural, it does not sustain life, it is purely for pleasure if you justify it. Love is not love despite the lefts view on matters. Love is not love when you penetrate a child. It's rape.

Silex ago

No. I have to bring distinctions in what you are saying.. Homosexuality is natural. But the fact that LGTBQ-whatever else is pushed strongly in the media is a major cause for concern. There is a grey area between promoting the acceptance of differences and pushing EVERYTHING (by religious standards considered sinful) toward a public acceptance. I agree that education and cultural conditionning is pushing strong narratives, therefore what is being put in those, from the elite media conglomerates, needs more scrutiny. Other than that, I'd say that because the brain is the first sex organ, it can be noted that gay behavior doesn't benefit life creation directly (DNA, duh) but why can't we aknowledge that pleasure is also part of life, instead of targeting consensual adult/adult sex life for pleasure? The pedophiles are deviant and sick, but it's not a matter of dampening down the importance of sexual pleasure for the rest of us.. That's a major problems for many faiths: sexual pleasure is automatical sin (because doesn't participate in life-making, therefore everything around sex is almost worthy of damnation. That said, I do see sex as sacred on different levels, chemically, energetically, psychologically, spiritually. #Freedom #Justice #CriticalThinking

Candygram_for_Mongo ago

On #CriticalThinking, we can agree to disagree. For thousands of years it was considered taboo. It wasn't just years of religion either. It is not natural. It was always meant to be the self sustaining relationship of just two opposite genders. The anus has but one purpose and one only. It is not a sex organ even though that's what it is today. It doesn't benefit life at all, only for pleasure. At least hetero sex leads to something many call wonderful, life. There is more to life than self gratification.

Verite1 ago

So let me ask you… Are you saying that you believe people should have control over their attraction to whomever? That people with homosexual feelings engage in a lifestyle that is "deviant" and choose not to "oberserve the morally correct way of being and that "God" is making the distinction between correct and incorrect and sitting in judgment of young children who expressed an attraction one way or another? And you must also therefore believe that transgender people carelessly want to engage in A lifestyle that puts them at huge risk ostracizes them causes deep pain, suicide, the list goes on and on.....that they would CHOOSE voluntarily or might you consider that: A) Who you were attracted to is not the same thing as how you identify yourself B) humans are the only Species that consider it it binary terms. Mother Nature does not.

Candygram_for_Mongo ago

Disagree, we are miles apart on things. You are bringing up God, others cite religion, which you're obviously are biased against and which has nothing to do with the opposing the lifestyle. So I'll just exit this conversation.

Verite1 ago

I'm not biased at all against "spirituality," tolerance, prayer, etc. so not sure what you mean. I'm also disappointed you feel the need to "exit," the conversation, as I wasn't attacking you. I am simply interested to have you expound on your views and hopefully we can try to understand one another better because I truly think this sex trafficking/pedophilia topic/problem is an area where ppl can come together, build bridges and strengthen society in order to better protect children. Sorry you don't feel comfortable discussing this. I don't fault ppl over their religious views. Live and let live so long as someone else's choices don't jeopardize anyone else. I guess that's where the gray area is. For some reason homosexuality and transgenderism which is prevalent in nature, throws human beings into a tizzy. I just wish people could separate the various identities and understand that one doesn't lead to the other and that it is not a "choice." I mean it is a choice in so far as if someone identifies a certain way and she chooses to ignore those deep-seated feelings and live inauthentically, versus recognizing their true nature and living life as such, yes that is a choice. But the attraction itself or the identitification itself in the case of being transgender is not a choice. It just is. Just as you either identify as a female or a male and it wouldn't occur to you to think otherwise and you would be attracted to a particular sex and cannot control that attraction. That is not a choice. Is this what you disagree with? Please help me understand. And vis a vis the issue of "God," I simply do not believe that God is a sentient, judgmental "person" who judges one way or the other. God is simply a conversation about energy and the consciousness which brings thought from the ethereal into the material world. It is the law of cause and effect, i.e. karma. It is expressed in mother nature which is bountiful expensive completely holistic and not binary. Can you please comment on this?

Candygram_for_Mongo ago

Sorry, my view of God differs from your view of God and is unsettling but I apologize for being offended.. Transgender "just is" not natural, not healthy, not what your biology says you are. It's a choice to live other than how you were born...because feelings. We can't do whatever we like in this life. That's how we have this growing pedo problem. Love is love has limits, a man's sexual love of a toddler for example. Homosexuality isn't prevalent in nature. It's purely a conscience issue. Citing animals is propaganda at its worst. There are only two genders no matter what Zuckerberg claims and adds to his Facebook. There is a reason there are only two genders, it called a life sustaining outcome.

We are miles apart. I am not going to attempt to persuade you, it is what it is. I'll let others live the life they want and worry about myself. Just don't force me to accept what I don't believe in.

Silex ago

That is why I underline that I also see sex as a sacred thing, but it doesn't exclude pleasure... Can't life be fun too, without falling into depravity?

Candygram_for_Mongo ago

There isn't anything wrong with pleasure. But if everybody chooses pleasure over reproduction (hetero and homo) then the species dies. The world is better off when pleasure is not the driving factor and creating a life that makes a difference here and now is more important. If you want to help others, you'll raise a doctor or the next chemist that discovers a cure for cancer. If you want to help yourself, pleasure is the final frontier in your life.

Silex ago

Totally agree!

Verite1 ago

Pediphilia is depravity because it is not consensual. Homosexuality and transgenderism is not depravity because it is hormonal and it is part of mother nature. Just because some people are not interested in procreating or that is not their role on planet earth does not mean they are not innocent in God's eyes and part of Mother Nature.

Silex ago

Yep. The whole point of this is how human beings use theological/pseudo-scientific argumentation only to assert a «moral» high ground or to push a narrative that only can make them in control of others in the long run. #Eugenism #Elitism #Control

Verite1 ago

Well it's widespread and very frustrating and frankly scary for ppl who are in this demographic. I can speak for these ppl definitively, that just because the identify as such (homosexual or trans) doesn't mean they IN ANY WAY, condone pedophilia EVEN IF it just coincidentally happens, there are unfortunately are indeed SOME ppl in this demographic who ARE attracted to minors. Pedos will be prevalent in all demographics including the homosexual and trans community. But I know many in this community who find pedophilia offensive and vile. Having said that, pedophiles IMHO are likewise not "evil" for having the attraction, but since children are innocent and can't "consent," we run in to a major problem. I guess this is where NAMBLA comes in to view. Because it seems they are trying to point out that if homosexuality is accepted as a "natural phenomenon," why isn't the attraction to minors also just "part of the spectrum?" This makes it so sticky!! I can see their point, but again....since children are involved, it's entirely necessary to make a clear distinction, right? And who on earth would ever think it is natural to have sex with a child or an infant!? But the narrative is so touchy because ultra conservative, orthodox Christian mentality point out homosexuality is not "natural" in the sense that it doesn't promote procreation and they are right. But, it's still a natural cinnamon on in nature that they somehow cannot understand and by not doing so I think it invalidates their arguments, but bringing up the normalization of pedophilia by NAMBLA gives them a very valid point for concern. So what to do?