Smells like Panic in the corporate media - Guardian.com mentions Pizzagate, MSNBC has a clown babbling that Nothing Trump has ever said is true (pizzagate)

submitted ago by 2impendingdoom

No link, but MSNBC had some white haired guy adamantly claiming that nothing Trump has ever said is true, and that the media has to fact check everything Trump and WH says.

Then I see this story on the Guardian.com:

Ten alternative facts for the post truth world

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/may/12/post-truth-worst-of-best-donald-trump-sean-spicer-kellyanne-conway

We are # 3 !!

"3. ‘Pizzagate’

Conspiracy theories thrive in the new age of post truth – often with dangerous consequences. In December, a phony report alleging that Hillary Clinton was at the heart of a paedophile conspiracy persuaded 28-year-old Edgar Maddison Welch from Salisbury, North Carolina, to “self-investigate” the ludicrous claims by firing shots from an assault rifle in a Washington DC pizza parlour. The restaurant, Comet Ping Pong, had been falsely associated with the story, itself comprehensively debunked before Welch’s attack. Death threats were received by the owner and staff, unwitting victims of the so-called Pizzagate allegations. It is worth noting that Michael Flynn, briefly Trump’s national security adviser, had tweeted that the stories connecting Clinton with “Sex crimes w/Children” were a “MUST READ”. As tempting as it is to dismiss fake news as the staple diet of the fringe, it has enthusiastic consumers at the very apex of power...."

I think they are freaking out. They lost Comey, and McCabe is under investigation by Sen. Grassley, even CNN is reporting

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politics/grassley-mccabe-director/

None of this would be happening if they weren't very concerned, or in my opinion, panicking.

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bopper ago

Interesting how Trump just "threatened" Comey about possible tapes he might have of Comey. Although Trump was apparently speaking of the dinner they had, it's ironic in light of the E. T. Williams youtube.

Edit: Apparently Trump has had enough of this Russian crap. Interesting also, during the recent Lester Holt interview, Trump said Flynn was a great guy.

2impendingdoom ago

Do you think Flynn will be back in?

areyousureaboutit ago

i hope so. still remember his antisemitic tweet jews had fun with.

jstrotha0975 ago

Oy, the truth hurts!

bopper ago

My guess is not in some official capacity but who knows, Trump is kind of pulling off the gloves right now. I saw he trolled Rosie O' Donnell and told her they finally agree on something (she had said months ago that Comey should be fired).

Neither Trump nor Flynn's son seem to be too concerned about General Flynn.

Edit: I think Trump has been trying to "reach across the aisles," and be presidential, and get things done. But when push comes to shove he may say the hell with it, go back to his "base," and seek comfort and support from them. He's had everyone from Coulter to Savage to Limbaugh breathing down his neck, and I'm sure when you add in the kids he's pretty conflicted. Don't want to corner a guy like him.

2impendingdoom ago

I agree, I think they've pushed him too far and now he's just pissed off. I still think Flynn is key somehow, and that the talk of re-opening the Clinton email investigation will cause is causing press hysteria.

bopper ago

I edited my comment FYI. Yeah I have a feeling Flynn will be hanging around. Can the press get more hysterical than they already are? LOL. Lester Holt did that interview w/ Trump then back-stabbed Trump the rest of the news program. Not gonna go down well w/ POTUS.

Bill Still has a youtube piece with Tucker Carlson about re-opening Clinton investigation ... the whole deal w/ Comey was a sham.

Harpua33 ago

Thomas Wictor in twitter has a good theory. Flynn created a non-official cover (NOC) persona, called a "knock." Spooks also call it an "illegal" persona. The ENTIRE PURPOSE of Flynn's operation was to make himself appear shady, shifty, and untrustworthy By making himself a target, Flynn created a REASON for the intelligence community to leak. It was a sting, a trap, a tiger pit. The National Security Agency and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence control raw signals intelligence (SIGINT). It's clear that the NSA and the ODNI were part of the sting operation. RAW SIGINT WAS NEVER PUBLISHED. The leakers were given REPORTS, not raw SIGINT. There had to be a REASON to blather to press. Flynn provided the reason. As Gingrich said, the press wants to chase rabbits, so Trump gives them rabbits to chase. There is NOTHING TO the Flynn story. Flynn made it all up in order to FOOL people into leaking. Each leaker was given a DIFFERENT REPORT. Since the leakers did not have access to raw SIGINT, they didn't know that their reports were not accurate. Also, the leakers didn't get together and compare notes. They were sitting ducks. AS each leaker spoke to the press, he or she was identified, since each leaker got a different report. But the leakers needed SOMETHING TO LEAK ABOUT. Flynn give it to them. NOW do you understand? Flynn did nothing wrong. About a hundred fake sources are claiming he did. That's deliberate.

bopper ago

Yeah, I heard this before somewhere, maybe from a link on a comment on ZHedge. They were calling it another name, this type of operation (besides the terms you mention) ... pretty neat and I hope it's true.