We need to know where this building is located!
The abandoned restaurant doubled as a secret strip club, vitamin store with wooden walk in cooler, In the big basement with separate rooms was a stripclub, in one of the rooms hangs a Abiku (spirit of death children) poster on the wall.
also on the wall inside a other room with also no windows are poloroid pictures of boys in underwear with the word "Donate" next to it.
We know the band Abiku stayed inside this place for some time (possible lived there)
The band Abiku has references to pedophilia, and we just found out a member of there new band Curse likes an old school pedophilia movie:
Read more about that here:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1842015
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1848458
Should be easy... to find out where this multi functional.. building is located?
Picture of the restaurant - Front:
http://imgur.com/a/ExvSI
Visible signs:
Good food co-op,
Diner lunch
Logo on the side of the restaurant:
http://imgur.com/a/XPz1b
Visible words:
Street, Down under
One of the guys in the video mentions (without context?)
https://youtu.be/-k-Sf_dhb3M?t=9m36s
"State of Ohio" (follow by something not very clear)
(from Ohio to Baltimore is a 1 hour flight)
Picture of the menu
Front
http://imgur.com/a/LDPeD
Back
http://imgur.com/a/piLyF
Inside
http://imgur.com/a/Vpt5M
Picture of the basement, painted pillars
http://imgur.com/a/Y5NG9
http://imgur.com/a/Tf220
"Down under" sign
http://imgur.com/a/cR8QM
The poster hanging inside the strip club is featuring Abiku, We know the band Abiku is from Baltimore.
We have evidence that Abiku was inside/living in this building:
- Electronics drawing
- Song lyrics,
- Stuffed animal carebear.
Abiku Poster: http://i.imgur.com/bHfYg1k.jpg
We need to know where this building is located, if we know where this place is we can find out why it was closed and abandoned etc.
Video 1 outside and ground floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-Sf_dhb3M
Video 2 inside basement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEQ48WYkdx8
Video 3 upstairs from the basement (but no windows, maybe still undergound?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgd0STvGcsU&t=5s
(The underground area seems bigger than the ground floor area?)
(The maker of the abandoned building video's doesn't want to disclose the location)
Please help to find out, / upvote, comment, so we can know whats going on with this strange place!
SoldierofLight ago
I'm flattered that you'd create an account just to reply to that one comment of mine. Of all the things on this thread to go to such trouble, why for that one comment? And I never said that the town came up with that name whenever it was established way back when in reference to child sex trafficking. Now you have me wondering even more if the name of the town has developed into a double entendre. So I'll say it again. "What else is going on in that town?"
Jakestr ago
I think this is a very important post, the swing, the skateboarding, the video games are obviously geared towards children. There was something going on in this building and this is getting buried how can we make sure this goes back to the top I already upvoated but maybe other people can
helpingabit12 ago
Shit just got more bizarre:
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1851748
helpingabit12 ago
Totally agree!!!!!,
What could help is take/find links and create a new link posts wits included the new "hot" words:
Links that inform us more about the region culture area of Youngstown.
people need to see those words otherwise they can not link the context
helpingabit12 ago
"James Traficant (Roman for trafficker): Former congressman and felon was Youngtown's most criminal person, 10 municipal charges, got convicted. and Youngtown got saved from "Traficant" ...?" https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1850986
found a few articles having the names of the judge and the name of James Traficant "trafficking"
Dont know yet what it means talks about jurisdictional things not a strong point of me http://www.vindy.com/news/2009/jul/02/only-1-of-3-us-judge-finalists-hails-from/
redditsuckz ago
Found some disturbing stuff about "pizza";
"Operation Pizza Slice was a success"
http://i.imgur.com/elHFSm4.jpg
"The kids escaped the basement?"
http://i.imgur.com/zBUna74.jpg
"Tonights show is cancelled...something something pizza"
http://i.imgur.com/RUHcKp8.jpg
Abiku poster show at "The Future" in Youngstown - dont know where that is...maybe "The Future" was Pyatt Street Diner Pyatt Street Down Under?
http://i.imgur.com/bHfYg1k.jpg
They had to cancel the show in Youngstown Ohio on the 17th of May 2011
http://i.imgur.com/dzTbmsl.jpg
Abiku Bio;
http://i.imgur.com/UGOMam4.jpg
Jane Vincent and House Panther AKA Joshua Jaworksy
http://i.imgur.com/kDJibqq.jpg
Johnny Rogers + Joshua Jaworsky AKA House Panther
http://i.imgur.com/IAV8ium.jpg
Jane Vincent + Johnny Rogers + Joshua Jaworsky
http://i.imgur.com/CCcJruk.jpg
Illuminati Eye
http://i.imgur.com/vQ1Mp6l.jpg
Baphomet Hand Sign;
http://i.imgur.com/sorzhcR.jpg
Joshua Jaworsky Facebook;
https://www.facebook.com/joshua.jaworsky
http://archive.is/pRwu8
Facebook Photos;- Satanist Aleister Crowley/Cat photo
http://archive.is/ycOAG
Joshua Jaworsky latest band "Forest Kingdom";
http://forestkingdom.tumblr.com/
https://forestkingdom.bandcamp.com/
https://www.facebook.com/Forest-Kingdom-208074482595527/
Previous band after Abiku was "Black Snot";
https://blacksnotphl.bandcamp.com/
https://www.facebook.com/blacksnotphl/
Image Dump of Abiku;
http://imgur.com/a/H5dDZ
helpingabit12 ago
THIS SHIT IS GETTING way to BIZARRE and just reached a whole new LEVEL!!! You need to SEE this "Art" !!!
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1851748
SoldierofLight ago
Good research!
helpingabit12 ago
Shared theme, binary transgender and mixtures of those
helpingabit12 ago
Many pizza related stuff keeps popping up
Did you also find it peculiar, the shared theme of witch cats among there friends?
redditsuckz ago
They might refer to the "cats" as children or people?
Here he talks about "cats" and "pizza";
http://i.imgur.com/RUHcKp8.jpg
He keeps talking as if he is "non human"
http://i.imgur.com/o3vkxEt.jpg
He might actually think he is part animal or part "cat";
http://i.imgur.com/yT2bJUD.jpg
Hence why is alternate name is "House Panther"
Who really knows...he might actually be a hybrid...I dont think those shapeshifting pics from ancient Egypt were just art...
Bastet - Part Cat Part Human
http://i.imgur.com/Q8GKtve.jpg
And that "Ankh" Bastet has in their hand indicates "human sacrifice"
http://i.imgur.com/hxyeElp.jpg
helpingabit12 ago
More Ankh from the House Panther
https://imgur.com/a/uapP9
redditsuckz ago
Very good find.
helpingabit12 ago
WTF
helpingabit12 ago
Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngstown,_Ohio
For decades, Youngstown was a haven for organized crime, and related corruption was ingrained into the fabric of its society. A 2000 publication in The New Republic listed a "chief of police, the outgoing prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, members of the local police force, a city law director, several defense attorneys, politicians, judges, and a former assistant U.S. attorney" as controlled by the Mob.[87] The city accelerated measures to limit the influence of organized crime upon all sectors of municipal life.
The climax of this ongoing effort was the arrest, trial, and 2002 conviction of former U.S. Representative James A. Traficant, Jr. (D), on bribery, tax fraud, and racketeering charges.[88] Although this has since been cleaned up somewhat, in 2006, Youngstown was ranked by Morgan Quitno Press, a Kansas-based publishing and research company, as the 9th most dangerous city in the United States.[89]
Vindicator ago
@helpingabit12, I'm giving this a "New Evidence" flair due to the fact the pot bust guy got the judges to write letters for him...that smells to me. I think folks need to keep investigating this -- judge links especially. Maybe someone can look up the court records to see who those judges were?
SoldierofLight ago
Yes, I agree. Determining what links the three judges to one another and to the former owner of the building might be very instructive.
helpingabit12 ago
Woaaaa Amazing!, that's a crow on the work!
Vindicator ago
I seem to recall @RebelSkum and @JrSlimss had an article about how to look up court documents, which are public. If you go to Pizzagate.wiki and look up the Cernovich article about Jeffery Epstein, there should be a link to the Steemit article they wrote that talked about it. If I remember correctly. ;-)
RebelSkum ago
Ta-da! Look for the section titled "Using PACER":
https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@rebelskum/stringing-cheese-burkle-and-bill-s-dirty-little-secret-and-the-importance-of-researching-legal-docs
helpingabit12 ago
Trying to find it, can you give a link? :p
helpingabit12 ago
Some info about the basement:
In the late 80s early 90s a third business was created, a basement jazz club called "Pyatt Street Down Under" https://books.google.com.hk/books?id=4qN2CQAAQBAJ&lpg=PT135&ots=jDLWGEJKIi&dq=%22Pyatt%20Street%20Down%20Under.%22%20ohio%20%20basement&pg=PT135#v=onepage&q=%22Pyatt%20Street%20Down%20Under.%22%20ohio%20%20basement&f=false
Mad_As_Hell ago
Check out first review (from 2004): "there is a police guard at nights" https://dine.com/restaurants/Pyatt-Street-Diner-Youngstown-Ohio-48030.html
helpingabit12 ago
The police in Youngstown like there (illegal) strip clubs
Read the intro text that comes with this picture
A Youngstown area man painted the outside of his business to protest what he says, was police brutality directed at his girlfriend. The man claims he reported an illegal strip club to the police and that they retaliated against him for reporting it, as they themselves frequented the establishment.
https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1325/843729506_e5f5af5a52_b.jpg
helpingabit12 ago
Interesting:
A Youngstown area man painted the outside of his business to protest what he says, was police brutality directed at his girlfriend. The man claims he reported an illegal strip club to the police and that they retaliated against him for reporting it, as they themselves frequented the establishment.
"Officer Robert Jollif, Maced & beat,with a baton, a 110 lb. female"
https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1325/843729506_e5f5af5a52_b.jpg
SoldierofLight ago
So... we know (and correct me if I'm wrong as I only speed read prior posts related to this one):
The band Abiku played gigs in the basement of this abandoned restaurant. They may have also lived there.
The restaurant part of the building was at one time owned by a guy named William Umbel.
Umbel was busted by the DEA for buying and distributing pot through his restaurant.
The pot was grown in a huge grow-op nearby.
When Umbel was in court facing charges, several lawyers wrote character reference letters on his behalf. Why? What was their relationship to him? Did he have something on them to make them want to do that?
We don't know if the strip club operated while he was still around or if it came along later, maybe illegally as a sort of ad-hoc squatter's setup after the restaurant closed down.
Questions:
Did Umbel rent out the basement to the strip club after he went to prison?
Why did the strip club shut down?
If child sex trafficking was occurring at that location, why did they shut down operations? Is that typical, like illegal dance and liquor clubs?
If so, where did they go? And does the weed selling operation follow the child sex trafficking locations?
Do they get the kids incredibly high prior to raping and killing them?
What happened to the pot guys?
helpingabit12 ago
They could have had gig(s) there but this i'm not sure , i know they where inside there. Because of the poster on the wall, and the related papers on the floor the carebear.
Why i think they lived or stayed there: If you have a performance, i can imagine you bring the bear, because its also featured in there music video. but i cant understand why you would bring the lyrics and the drawings. They need to be made inside, if you made those things after a gig, then why do you leave them there ?
In the video we are only presented 2 of those papers, but there are a lot of papers(/possble other drawings) on the floor and on desks
SoldierofLight ago
Yeah, I'd have to think the drawings were made before the gig. Maybe a girlfriend or boyfriend of the band had nothing else to do while the band rehearsed? Also, since the band was touring and they were dead broke, I can see them staying there before the gig, even if for only one night.
helpingabit12 ago
...Dick biondi moved to Youngstown
Maybe that's where he got the inspiration for his, very bad song:
"On Top of a Pizza"
"The pizza song knock knock" Presented by WLS 890 radio chicago & PEPSI-Cola, "Now it's pepsi for those who think young!"
LP front cover http://images.45cat.com/dick-biondi-the-pizza-song-irc.jpg
Song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu4EiTJNP1k
Comment on the song: "If I remember correctly, it was a promotion by WLS & Pepsi. Ya had to send in 6 Pepsi bottle caps & 50 Cents, & they mailed you the 45. LP"
Jakestr ago
Look at this looks like there used to be another down under restaurant in Ohio. Please note the ping-pong table and the priceless single review https://www.google.com/search?q=down+under+diner+ohio&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#fpstate=lie
helpingabit12 ago
The Changing Image of Youngstown
Interview(2008) with Phill Kidd, Director of Events and Special Projects for the City of Youngstown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-bZQR_KTs
(Kid with with SPIRAL - combined with EYE logo in first shot!)
helpingabit12 ago
Phil Kidd
YOUngstown, "You can change youngstown"
Phil Kidd - Associate Director at Youngstown CityScape
https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3259/2765812911_339f9e25f1_z.jpg
helpingabit12 ago
176 photos of an abandoned Youngstown
https://www.flickr.com/photos/seanposey/albums/72157600694957814
Pizzalawyer ago
Wow great job!!
helpingabit12 ago
Picture of a sign on the street in Youngstown:
"YOUNGSTOWN, Your Child, whos's future Tutoring"
https://www.flickr.com/photos/seanposey/9765052095/
Comments:
"Creepy. No way I'm calling that number.Ever."
"Hmmm. I'd pass on that one!"
"I get the message, but they could have worded that differently :)"
The phone number doesn't bring up any website or company names only this persons name and address http://www.whitepages.com/phone/1-234-855-0869
SoldierofLight ago
Hmmm. That gets me thinking. Youngstown. Youngs town. Young peoples' town. As in Boys Town. Did we just stumble onto something? I realize pedophelia is everywhere but, that sign, the strip club. What else is going on in that town?
helpingabit12 ago
(Official?) Police(? )Warings hanging on the bar ? https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/706/21654536476_82b82cc5b0_b.jpg
Only visible word is "WARNING !!" and two mersi officals logo's
helpingabit12 ago
2014 high res. picture of the front side of the building https://www.flickr.com/photos/seanposey/13043713714/ ( it looks closed and abandon and has letter sticked on the front door.)
SoldierofLight ago
You're good!
Pizzalawyer ago
I noticed coat racks at booth in restaurant only see that in cold country. Ohio is one of the worst damaged rust belt states, abandonment everywhere, even cleveland lost half its population.I saw a sign on side of building that said "down under" was that name of club? Was there a side entrance below the restaurant. The menu prices were outrageously high for such a crummy place 14.95, 15.95 means it could not have been abandoned too long. There had been a "good food co-op" there as well. I only watched the video that showed part of outdoors. I don't want to see the rest, too creepy, good luck.
helpingabit12 ago
THANKSSSSSS!
redditsuckz ago
Bill(William) Umbel + Janet Umbel - Owners
http://i.imgur.com/dMgYAMx.jpg
Ex-restaurateur sentenced for peddling pot
In December 2004, Umbel pleaded guilty in federal court to conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana. The time span is from at least as early as 1995 through September 2003. Vindicator files show that, over the years, Umbel's eateries included the Pyatt Street Diner on Pyatt Street and Colonial House on Market Street, both closed. Judge Economus said in court that Umbel used the diner to receive regular deliveries of marijuana and encouraged his nephew, Kevin Rouan, to participate. Rouan, who also pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana, will be sentenced Thursday.
Umbel's plea agreement states that he accepted deliveries from others -- 200 to 600 pounds at a time -- for his customers. The plea agreement requires him to cooperate with the government. Umbel's Youngstown lawyer, James S. Gentile, told the judge Tuesday that his client, with failing businesses, was lured by the money to be made. Gentile said Umbel is remorseful.
Umbel's case was investigated by the Drug Enforcement Administration and overlaps with the huge indoor marijuana farm at 814 Marshall St. downtown that resulted in the indictment a year ago of Robert Arroyo and Joseph C. Pedaline, among others. Pedaline received 54 months in prison; Arroyo received 51 months. Umbel's case also overlaps with one from October 2003 that involved several defendants, including Michael Hazlett of Hubbard, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess and distribute marijuana and being a felon in possession of a firearm. A year ago, he was sentenced to 51 months in prison. "Umbel, Arroyo, Pedaline and Hazlett were friends and associates," DEA Special Agent Douglas E. Lamplugh, head of the Youngstown office, has said. "They dealt marijuana at different levels."
http://www.vindy.com/news/2005/jun/08/ex-restaurateur-sentenced-for-peddling-pot/
600 pounds of pot worth 2 million in todays money??
http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/07/random-traffic-stop-nets-600-pounds-of-weed-worth-nearly-2-million/
SoldierofLight ago
Unfortunately, I'm not an expert on massive quantities of pot, but 200-600 pounds at a time seems like a LOT to me. So that means he they were moving a lot of product to lots of customers. And yet, he had several judges who wrote recommendation letters on his behalf. Where have we seen judges involved in stuff on a large scale that's not legal?
redditsuckz ago
Using the inflation calculator around 2 million was worth about 1.5 million in 2004 and on average he was moving around 300 pounds that would be around 750k worth of pot.
6 face charges in pot factory
On Feb. 25, the DEA task force raided the enormous marijuana factory that operated out of Pedaline's warehouse, a few blocks from the B & amp;O. Agents found 3,850 plants in various stages of growth. Nationally, it was the largest indoor marijuana growing operation uncovered by the DEA this year. At the time of the raid, DEA Special Agent Douglas Lamplugh said that once harvested, the high-grade marijuana -- found growing in seven rooms -- would have a street value of $1,500 to $2,500 per pound. He said one plant generally yields 1 pound. Calculating 3,850 pounds at $1,500 to $2,500, that's $5.8 million to $9.6 million street value.
http://www.vindy.com/news/2004/mar/24/6-face-charges-in-pot-factory/
SoldierofLight ago
Good work.
Pizzalawyer ago
Another reference to ohio beer award, I found references to abiku play dates in Columbus ohio and athens ohio April??? no year noted, no venue names, concerts cancelled
SoldierofLight ago
One of the guys reads off a piece of paper, "The State of Ohio Workers Compensation..." probably Board is the next word, and it's probably official documentation for the restaurant. That indicates to me it's located in Ohio, so yeah, I think you're right that it's somewhere there and not in Maryland.
helpingabit12 ago
Thanks for your comment