From Wikileaks:
Does the attachment to this email indicate a direct relationship to Soros?
David Brock was a recipient on this email.
Here is a screencap of the players in this email.
https://imgoat.com/uploads/74d97b01ea/15737.png
Here's the WL email https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/36518
Open attachment to email, called **Meeting Summary 2/11/2008 ** to view full document. (Recommended read - only 3 pages long in Word)
(See bottom of page 1 on attachment)
Sandler - John to continue to pursue. Will be able to gain more traction after there are ad’s he can share with them.
Soros - After receiving commitments from Bing, SEIU, and the Sandlers, Andy Stern should reach out to George, explain to him the importance of this particular media effort and ask him to match their donations to this project.
Thoughts?
RebelSkum ago
There are other, more direct examples as well:
https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/14981
Podesta definitely has a working relationship with Soros and Soros acts as a major leader within the Democratic Party.
RweSure ago
Podesta was the head of the Center for American Progress which was funded in part by George Soros Open Society Foundations.
@jstayz44 The Sandlers did not create the economic collapse. They certainly didn't create mortgage backed securities. Mortgage Backed Securities can be good or toxic depending on what is put in them. During the economic collapse, more and more bad mortgages were getting made and then sold to Wall Street and getting put into Mortgage Backed Securities. Even as these assets grew more toxic from (every year seemed to get worse) the ratings agencies kept finding a way to create AAA tranches.
And the Sandlers had NOTHING to do with this. They did not sell their mortgages to Wall Street to be put into mortgage backed securities. They literally were not part of the mortgage secularization chain. They kept their mortgages on their books, this meant they were holding on to the risk and thus had incentive not to lend to people who couldn't pay back.
They took a lot heat early on because Wachovia bought Golden West at the height of the housing bubble and then suffered a lot of losses. 2006 was a terrible time to buy a mortgage company, let alone pay $25 billion for one, but this is all hindsight. How many people knew in 2006 that 2008 was going to be as bad as it was? Very, very few. In fact this bank analyst at the beginning of 2008 thought Wachovia's $38 stock was fairly valued at $61. http://www.joshuakennon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/wachovia-stock-report.jpg
At the time Wachovia took it over, Golden West earned 1.5 billion in profits that year. By late 2008 Wachovia ended up getting bought for only $15 billion by Wells Fargo when the crisis hit. Wachovia bought 7 financial services companies from 2003 to 2006.
What Sandler and GoldenWest did do was they were among the first outfits offering Adjustable Rate Mortgages. Adjustable Rate Mortages WERE one of the big causes of the crisis. Lots of the toxic loans in mortgage based securities were ARMs. However, none of these ARMs were from Sandler, because
A. they kept their mortgages and the risk themselves. They did not sell them into the Wall Street securitization machine.
B. Because of A, their mortgages were very different from other ARMs. They had very sound underwriting rules. They were not doing no income, no job loans, their underwriting standards required borrowers to put up a hefty down payment so they would be invested in the loan. Their loans also didn't screw the customers over. Their options didn't reset for 10 years way longer than other banks. This meant if you had a Sandler ARM and the great Recession hit you might be able to ride out the decrease in home prices. They didn't do two year teaser rates and then a balloon payment.
After the initial heat, when people looked into how Golden West pre-Wachoiva compared to the rest of the industry, the Sandlers came out looking pretty good. http://archives.cjr.org/feature/the_education_of_herb_and_marion.php
When the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission issued its reported they mentioned Sandler and his Golden West company several times and they come off looking good. Page 20 warning the fed
Page 91 on subprime brokers gaming the system and gouging their customers
page 106 long discussion of the ARMs compared to other companies mortgages
Sandler told the FCIC that Golden West’s option ARMs—marketed as “Pick-aPay” loans—had the lowest losses in the industry for that product. Even in 2005—the last year prior to its acquisition by Wachovia—when its portfolio was almost entirely in option ARMs, Golden West’s losses were low by industry standards
In fact the report notes elsewhere that in 2006, losses in this portfolio had been less than 0.01 %.
page 110. They did low documentation loans, but only when they got a big down payment.
jstayz44 ago
Will you and your brothers retire from Voat already? You are wasting your breath. We aren't listening to you.
jstayz44 ago
Short answer is "hell yes." It's infuriating to me that the Sandlers create the economic collapse through BS mortgage backed securities, and become an important player. I couldn't be more pissed off at the elites for fucking with EVERYONE E and ANYONE in every country and walk of life to meet their own fucking egotistical gain. God bless, I hope we ultimately win.