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DarkMath ago

"The arrests didn't happen"

Grasshopper,

After the "plumbers" were arrested at the WaterGate office complex it took TWO YEARS before perps started going to prison and Nixon was forced to resign.

All good things take time. This fucker is so monolithically evil and depraved it could bring down the entire government in DC. This thing is massive. It's takes time to get something this big moving.

ArthurEdens ago

I could easily see the fall of the evil empire taking 5 to 20 years

Laskar ago

Everything will be quite different after 2018--the whole map really.

ArthurEdens ago

You figure civil war or what?

Ocelot ago

Yeah. Problem is they've entrenched themselves, thrown up barricades, sand bags, fortifications, walls, moats, turrets. We have...very little, and we're easily demoralized. This type of issue takes intense public pressure for years along with potential allies on the inside. We need a strong figure to rally behind. Some thought it was Trump, but regardless of his personality and style (which would be PERFECT for our movement -- a bull-headed monster to stomp and rage at the demons) we're getting mixed signals and static. We need a face. Unfortunately it's difficult to get a face in a world controlled by opposition media.

FuckReddit69 ago

I hope you are not alluding to waiting years to start seeing high level arrests. I think (to them) this is a waiting game. And the clock is against us not them.

DarkMath ago

"And the clock is against us not them."

I thought that too for a while but the pace has really picked up lately. For example the Jason Chaffetz story. Last week I was pissed they got to Chaffetz. This week the truth came out. It looks like Clinton and Co extorted Chaffetz to cover up the Extortion 17 investigation. I went from dejection to elation in about 5 seconds. Not only is Clinton going to get it, all the people she extorted are going to get it as well. The entire Congress is coming apart at the seems. Both parties are involved and they know their Goose is Cooked. It's going to bring down the entire government for all intents and purposes. You get the idea.

https://youtu.be/21EgUpsPzoo?t=119

This Chaffetz story has to be about the 100th time this has happened in the past 6 months. Something comes out, the Deep State puts up a smoke screen and the next week we find out it's worse than anything we ever expected. We plumb new depths and it happens again. Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

After a while it's obvious, this fucker's going down hard. What we're seeing is a Deep State death spiral and it's picking up steam. Muahahahahahaha

@SoSpricyHotDog @ArthurEdens @Pokes @HopeLiesInTheProles @20Justice4All17 @kestrel9

Phenomenonanon ago

Definitely belive that's connected

Vindicator ago

Only your first 5 pings work per comment, DM.

ArthurEdens ago

If Chaffetz is two-facing you gotta wonder if Gowdy is too. Who is left to termite the place from the inside except maybe some of Trump's crew, it'll have to be swarmed

DarkMath ago

"wonder if Gowdy is too."

They never got to Gowdy. He wouldn't go out of his way to make them look like idiots if he had been compromised.

The entire clown fraud racket in DC depends on narcissistic sociopaths and the occasional psychopath so the Deep State can catch them in compromising positions and control them via extortion. Well adjust alpha males need not apply. I think the only reason Gowdy is there is he could come out of this looking like the next President of the United States.

You heard it here first.

;-)

ArthurEdens ago

I like the sound of that if you're in the know

DarkMath ago

"in the know"

I'm not. I'm just going off instinct. Always go with the angry well educated white guy with no money. They're smart enough to see the top of the mountain but too poor to get there. That generates emotions that could crack a diamond.

Dressage2 ago

LOL Bravo, well said!

ArthurEdens ago

Haha fair enough. I'll bite

SoSpricyHotDog ago

Oh, no, I get it... sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm not losing patience or motivation - the first half of my post was expressing concern with others who are. The YouTube channels that were covering this heavily and have now backed off. The lack of new info.

But the lack of new info doesn't truly concern me, because we have SO MUCH that SHOULD be investigated - but it isn't, because all of the protection mechanisms are still in place.

fogdryer ago

Ok wait Point me in a direction to investigate

Poot_McGarvey ago

Start with what you know. Start looking in to areas with major highway intersections. Major areas of crime. Ports. etc.

Look for shady childrens places. and all that.

DarkMath ago

"The YouTube channels that were covering this heavily and have now backed off."

I understand what you mean now. Thank you for clarifying. Don't worry, the lack of coverage on Youtube is a direct result of Google/Eric Schmitt/Alphabet demonetizing all videos until they can figure out a way to more subtly suppress the people's voice.

The big picture is they're stalling because they don't know what to do. They can't do that forever. They'll have to get off the fence pretty soon, probably late Spring, early Summer. I'm fairly certain they'll do the right thing and take the muzzle off the people's voice. Poor people can get very nasty sometimes. Especially people who's Constitution has an Amendment for the exact demonic cluster fuck we're now experiencing. Coinkydinkly an Amendment I never thought would be needed in 1000 years. Boy was I wrong.

These people are smart enough to figure out how to get on the right side of History. There's immense pressure building up on the tectonic plates of power in this country. Just because nothing's visible doesn't mean there isn't a fuckton of pressure way down low. The truth is building up and when it goes it's going to go all at once. It's gonna be the biggest "earthquake" the world has ever seen.

LostandFound ago

Yay DarkMath, absolute logic hero. Youtube can't sustain this imo, people are moving and content creators are dying off. Let's face it im sure there's literally thousands of companies that would pay big bucks to Google to advertise on the likes of Pewdiepie, this is a sticky mess right now and no one is happy.

I think there is a general feeling of deflation amongst a lot of groups that believe that trumps campaign promises would make it to his policy verbatim, I don't want to jump to conclusions but his swamp drainage needs a lot of work it's not a pretty sight.

We can't undo knowing what we know now, I have been less active here on voat in recent weeks but I managed to red pill my whole family and some friends during that time, so the fight continues. But apparently it's against 8500 lucifarians, not far of the subscriber count for this sub. So we're currently engaged 1:1 against the hyper elite whom have a 200 year or more head start, we're still in the first chapters of this story.

Dressage2 ago

Great job red pilling!! At your rate, we will awaken the peeps sooner than later. My family still thinks I am hallucinating and need to be committed. It's ok, one day they will think I am brilliant! @DarkMath is correct. The slaves are starting to percolate from the lower levels. Don't forget to buy ammunition when you pick up milk at Walmart!

LostandFound ago

I have been dropping subtle red pills for some time now, not specifically all related to PG but media & power structures in general. Sweeden or could i say the new republic of cuckistan has been instrumental in this process, from beacon of western civ to rape capital where 40% of women dont feel safe walking the steets and its never on the TV news gets the gears turning. Why is no one doing anything and why are we not up in arms over it. Deprogramming takes a long time too fast and cognitive dissonance kicks in. Pick small battles until they start to question things themselves.

Vindicator ago

We've got more than 1:1, LostandFound. :-) Check the sidebar -- we're at 13,272. Now granted, 300 of those are probably PGisStupid alts that are in the ban box, but still. We've got eyeballs. We just need to get organized about how, when and where to share the evidence we've gathered. We could significantly increase the "pressure building up on the tectonic plates of power" as @DarkMath so eloquently put it.

9217 ago

Count me in.

DarkMath ago

"Youtube can't sustain this"

Yep. And I read people like Mike Cernovich and Bill O'Reilly are out shopping a new YouTube/Fox News competitor. Google can't afford to do what they're doing for much longer.

This thing kind of reminds me of IBM and the Main Frame computer. IBM and Digital ruled the roost. They never thought anybody would challenge their dominance in a million years. When Bill Gates offered to buy some rinky dink DOS operating system for some pathetic kind of new micro-computer that only Tin Foil Hat Wing Nuts who work in their parent's garages probably would buy they jumped at the chance. The fools would probably try to use them to start new business in some pathetically sad hippy haven south and a little east of San Francisco.

The rest is History. God has a custom built paddle for each of our behinds.

Narcissism ago

Bill Gates father was head of Planed Parenting and a deep cover C&A asset. It was all planned.

LostandFound ago

Great analogy hopefully happens sooner than later, google lost its appearance of giving a shit a long time ago. Side note - Still don't know what to make of Cernovitch, my gut tells me not to trust him and I can't seem to shake it.

DarkMath ago

"my gut tells me not to trust him and I can't seem to shake it."

Me too. I strongly suspect both Mike and George Webb have some foreign sponsorship if you know what I mean. But that's ok. The Jews(tm) are smart enough to have contingency plans. And I think Mike and George are "The High Road".

And I'm not anti-Semitic, I have many Jewish(tm) relatives through marriage, don't ask, it's complicated. I've been invited to a few Jewish weddings. I love Israel too and have even been there. I understand their position in all this. You can't blame them for playing both sides, they have to. They have nowhere else to go.

What is unconscionable however are the Bush-Clinton Crime Syndicates. They are the native born gatekeepers in all this and what they did is High Treason. In 10,000 years they will look back at the Bush-Clinton Syndicate as the purest form of Treason History has ever seen.

I don't want to imagine what their punishment will be but it's going to be so bad I don't even want to think about it.

SoSpricyHotDog ago

I hope you are right DarkMath... always enjoy your posts.

Let's keep building that pressure... one day, Mt. Podesta will erupt.

DarkMath ago

Thanks SoSpricyHotDog.

The real insanity of this thing is I've been hoping I'm NOT right. I think about this time last year and ignorance is bliss.

My heart is so broken and shattered right now at finding out what these people did. I'm angry and disgusted at the same time. It's the weirdest feeling. The whole country's going to have to go through the 5 stages of grief type thing. It's like watching someone you loved your entire life die and get put in the ground. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.

Whatever or whoever it was killed this country. We'll never be the same.

Dressage2 ago

This never happened on Leave It To Beaver. The worse thing back then was Eddie Haskell. I think Podesta and Co. have him beat.

20Justice4All17 ago

Thanks for your analysis. I also believe in the pressure building. Everything on our culture/society that tries to legitimize these folks and their behavior only acts to infuriate and embolden the folks who simply want the whole cart turned over. I believe it also draws more in and pressure will continue to grow and grown organically until justice is served and we all see the shame and humiliation of the perps and their apologists. So many many people will not let this rest until this is the case or until the entire table is turned over. In the end, everyone knows that the masses have the power and that this genie is out o' the bottle.

DarkMath ago

"infuriate and embolden"

Yep. It's astonishing to see these people continually shoot themselves in the foot. It's almost as if their own demise was baked into this thing from the beginning.

HopeLiesInTheProles ago

I agree. As soon as we hit the "Tipping Point" to widespread public knowledge, all the protectors and hangers-on will start fleeing the Evil Ship like rats. They'll try to pretend they were on our side from day 1.

The truth will come out.

Pokes ago

How I wish that were true, however, I can't help but feel like we're losing the battle. Fewer alternative media channels discuss it, fewer investigative leads are being developed, greater obstacles to the investigation of the ones discovered are being put in place, and, as this video illustrates, it would appear as if Trump himself is compromised and therefore unlikely to be bringing anyone down without bringing himself down in the process. I hope I'm wrong, I hope desperately that, as many have supposed, it's just a matter of lining up their ducks to take down this network. But, when you consider who's implicated, namely royalty, the vatican, high ranking justices and politcians, lawyers, doctors, executives, etc... it seems highly likely that they would and could set fire to the world if anyone were to hold them to account.

That's the whole point of this arrangement imo. While undoubtedly there are many sadistic sickos willingly partaking in pedogate, I suspect it's mafia-style blackmail, having the ultimate dirt on someone, literally owning their soul. You can't whistleblow once you've fucked kids, or trafficked in them; I mean you might get immunity but you'll be reviled and a de facto persona non gratis anywhere you go if you're so lucky as to not be met with local vigilante justice. I suspect everyone involved knows this. This isn't big tobacco, no one will be congratulating the guy who suddenly grows a conscience. What they'll be admitting to, while important it be known and exposed, is nevertheless too reprehensible to be forgiven.

Therein lies our impasse: we have a mountain of circumstantial evidence, enough to warrant a proper investigation by some authoritative agency capable of bringing perps to justice, but said agencies are all headed by people who are compromised, complicit, or beholden to those who they would be policing. In the absence of any likely whistleblowers and when you consider the possibility that this scandal got Assange kidnapped and Wikileaks co-opted by the CIA in October, after these leaks and their associated revelations took momentum, it begs the question, "What exactly is going to happen in order for anything to actually come of this scandal and our citizen investigations?"

I really want to be wrong. I really want to discover great investigative work being done by someone which has a hope of blowing this thing wide open. Unfortunately, I too have grown somewhat disilusioned with the prospects of any justice being meted out. People seem less curious than ever and the stigma of pizzagate as fake news has permeated the mainstream making those I would attempt to red-pill more and more likely to have a preconceived idea of the very topic as Russian propaganda. It's a culture war, not merely an information war, and our alternative society or culture of people not subscribing to the MSM narrative is becoming increasingly derided. I still wholeheartedly subscribe to the belief in this as reality, and relish the opportunity to discuss it with like minds but it's nevertheless something i've started giving up on red-pilling people about. I will link them to the executive summary and leave it at that. If they have questions I'm always happy to try and answer them, but I'm not interested in being pedantic about this subject anymore; i find it leads nowhere. I hope others are having more luck as of late than I am.

HopeLiesInTheProles ago

I know what you mean. The leads have slowed. I'm not sure citizen investigators can "solve" the case unless hard evidence like photos start leaking. I believe our challenge is making people aware of what's happening. People don't even have to believe PG is real, per se, but they have to notice the censorship and web of lies and say, something isn't quite right here. "Pizzagate" could become a rallying cry for free speech and alternative media. Even if it's "I disagree with what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

Sometimes it's important to take a break from PG for your own sanity, and the sake of your personal relationships. But there's always impersonal options to spread the word: write #pizzagate on dollar bills, print flyers and leave them around, fake accounts on social media.

Pokes ago

I hadn't thought of putting the hashtag on money, it's a good idea. And thank you, you're right; it's easy to despair but what really is the alternative, turning a blind eye to some of the most disgusting crimes imaginable? A little hiatus helps, I'm just disappointed upon my return from one with the seemingly stagnant state of the investigation.

DarkMath ago

"will start fleeing the Evil Ship like rats."

Yep, exactly. Someone else gets it. I bet there are thousands of people just waiting in the wings to come forward. I know in the case of the CIA many people want to talk but they signed non-disclosure agreements and don't want to end up in jail or worse:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUhI0VVcAbs

The most unnerving thing is the MSM like Fake Jake Tapper spouting his bull shit. He didn't do anything wrong but his silence is deafening. The entire MSM's silence is deafening. I highly doubt any major name like Fake Jake or Rachel Maddow will have jobs after this does down. They will have zero credibility and be a daily reminder of how wrong the MSM was.

kestrel9 ago

The good news is the smell of fear in the air. Eye of the hurricane people! ;)