Tim Black was a guest on Mike Trimm's show:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_314o8Tab0
I can't pretend to know the reasoning behind Mike's claim that pizzagate is an "obvious false flag", nor why he and Tim won't put even 30 minutes of actual research into this crime (which they clearly have not, given the statements in this video), but could someone explain what on earth this could even mean?
How could pizzagate be a "false flag"?
This little clip was upsetting to me on several levels. My most visceral reaction was summed up best in the comments section,
Chicken shits!!! Like putting politicians in compromising situations for later blackmail hasn't been going on since the beginning of time! Any reporter worth their salt would explore this serious issue. It's about life and death... for the most vulnerable of us! Children! Is pedo island and the Lollita express a false flag too! You couldn't be bothered to investigate it!?!
So often the real wisdom of The People is found in the comments sections (Voat being a prime example!), so let me use this opportunity to highlight some of the responses to this video:
you don't really need to speculate much when its written in black and white like it is. has anyone read the email that's talking about entertainment in the form of 3 children (with their names and ages) in the hot tub? 3 children in a hot tub with grown men? could anyone shed some light on this for me? I'm nit talking about all the emails in which they're talking in code. I'm talking specifically about the aforementioned email. anyone here care to "debunk" that one for me?
Shill response: There was never a 'hot tub' mentioned. Luzzatto mentioned the pool would be getting heated (it was October) so a swim would be a possibility. The invite list included about 8 women and 8 men, not just a group of men. Luzzatto is the children's step grandmother, so was likely just showing her pride that she has them coming over and letting her friends know a bit about them. It also lets her friends know what to expect. They may have been expecting a quiet, sophisticated dinner party for adults. This way, she lets them know there will be loud boisterous children splashing about in a pool. In that context, she was most likely being sarcastic with the use of the word ''entertainment'.
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The simple fact that there was not a single investigation on it, that Ben Swann went completely dark after doing a simple report on pizzagate, that anybody that talks about it gets attacked immediately, why the owner of that pizzeria is one of the 50th most influential persons in Washington... Wikileaks opened the door to the information.. the only false flag was the actor they hired to do the shooting in the pizzeria, that's what they used to debunk the story... I just think a lot of youtube channels just want to be on the safe side.. and I understand...
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I liked the way Ben Swann covered it (his last You Tube video). he said that he didn't know what it was about for certain, but it's about something more than pizza, and someone needs to look at it.
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Tim, anyone who spends even one day investigating this subject matter would know it's real. There is no doubt about it. Look what happened to Ben Swann for even talking about it briefly. #PizzagateIsRealAF
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I'm not a journalist, but David Seaman summed up my thoughts well today, so let me quote him:
"Many of my colleagues were absolutely pathetic cowards on [pizzagate] and they will never live it down...to remain silent on pedogate when you're a journalist, when you have a column, or a youtube channel, or a TV show, to remain silent on this scandal is so unacceptable. Journalists are supposed to break scandals, to hold the powerful to account..." https://youtu.be/1ijmHWWZSkc?t=1h3m45s
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quantokitty ago
WTH is Mike Trimm and why should I care what he thinks?
V____Z ago
Tim Black is a big youtuber, and has a big following on Twitter. Mike Trimm is not as well known, but Tim just had him as a guest on his show, so Mike's influence will likely be growing. A lot of people do listen to Trimm, he is most known for reporting on Wikileaks related matters, and broke a story about Huma being a spy, his video was so damning that he was forced to take it down. Supposedly tptb told him they would be making busts related to what he revealed in his video, but the info couldn't be released yet. That's when I first heard of him, and when he got his street cred on Twitter. In some circles, his influence is on par with with George Webb, so I think it does deserve mention. And Tim has such a large audience that this video could potentially have a lot of viewers. Even if Mikes voice isn't huge at this time, the more and more alt voices debunk or dismiss or muddy the pizzagate waters, the harder it will be for us to get the alt community to listen to us. So I want to call them out at every turn. Mike should be made to explain himself, IMO. And he can't, so he should be embarrassed or made to do a proper Benn Swann style expose if he wants to continue calling himself an investigator.
dickface8 ago
Spot on. Any smug ass claiming to have the lowdown on pizzagate being a psyop will trigger the fuck out of me, this ass is no exception.
V____Z ago
I get triggered even by the severe lack of knowledge, the sign that NO effort has been put forth to find out if these sick pedos are really sick pedos. Tim had a couple people investigate for him, and yet he still thinks Comet is the pizza shop with the pedo symbol. Either we pizzagaters have done a completely shite job at getting the info out, or our alt youtube community just doesn't really give a shit about children.
dickface8 ago
It is shocking at times to see the lack of knowledge from people who really should be all over this. Just the fact that there's only like 10000 members here, out of billions of people. Even the most popular posts only get a few thousand views if lucky. Though still don't underestimate the power pizzagate has. They're petrified of it ever becoming "real news".
V____Z ago
That's the bottom line. Congress actually threatened the cable company about airing the doc about Franklin Scandal.
We have such a preponderance of evidence at this point, plus the fact that we are talking about children suffering in horrific ways, it is just impossible to let hope for pizzagate go. Like another commenter said here yesterday, every time he wants to just give up, he pictures the children and their pain, and his energy is renewed.