I know it is posted somewhere on Voat, but can someone tell me if a circular spiral is also suspicious? I know the spiral triangle is on the fbi files. But I am noticing the circles everywhere.
Being a Polish jew myself I am pretty familiar with typical polish jewish names -- and Leo Gura does not seem to be a typical Polish jewish name at all, IMO.
OMG high creep factor. Anyone catch this little gem at the very very very very bottom past the videos, past the glorious praise, past all the low low low discounted price:
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Of course he knows its a pedo sign! His whole "job" is to sell his obsessive and delusional thoughts, but he thoughtlessly chose a pedo sign for his website? Also he is selling an amoral "anything goes"... "All dreams actualized"... "You control reality" Philosophy. So yeah he 100% pedo imo. 100 says he has no girlfriend either in his "sucessful, amazing, he does anything he wants, gets anything he wants" life. BUSTED. Good post. He is the type who will try to ground "pedosexual" into a philosophy that valudates the desire to have sex with children. Keep an eye on him. HE WILL show ip on the radar as the movement gains ground and approaches LGBTP!
Haven't seen any real evidence or anything that links this guy to pedophilia other than the logo. Not saying it's not possible, but so far seems bizarre why so many people are immediately so convinced. I mean for example the video about not caring what other people think - wouldn't that apply to pizzagate as well? People think we're crazy and so on, so maybe this guy has good advice on that. If someone finds any proof or more evidence linking Leo to pedophilia, then present it. If the logo is all there is then this is a dead end, and not really that important when the whole context of pizzagate and the politicians, billionaires etc. are taken in to account, and how comparatively meaningless some guy giving self development advice on the internet. But sure people accusing this man, make your case, see if you can find anything.
Well, I have looked into the books he offers and the store, there is nothing that I see that is shady as if yet. He even recommends the Four Agreements which I have in my home. The only thought I have that is left to pursue is that it is a front for a CP site. That is a lot of followers, 600K.
Check out this video of his site https://www.actualized.org/articles/a-rant-against-morality In the comments section he is arguing with a guy named Kevin, Kevin is complaining he is protecting pedos, well he does "Yes, I actually like defending pedophiles and Nazi’s because there is a much bigger issue at stake. Namely false moralizing that people do with respect to them" I didn't watch the video yet, but maybe someone has time for it.
He's a total creep. The video I watched started with him sharing a "secret." While that's not necessarily different than others trying to gain some type of success, I do wonder how often he uses it in his videos. That Boy Love symbol sure is everywhere. This is a good one OP!! Right in front of our faces...now where is the devious behavior happening? That is always the million dollar question.
Yes, this is always the question. The title "Zen Devil" WTH is that about? More must be looked at here. I have a feeling there is more to this than the symbol, although that is suspect enough. With this guy being into Zen and all of this Love Fest stuff do not tell me he has never seen the Boy Love Sign.
Good point on the idea he does not know what the sign is. His whole "job" is to obsessively "think" about life and sell his thoughts. So he thoughtlessly chose a well known pedo sign? Also his whole philosophical approach to "reality" is promoting "anything goes", "any dream you have can be yours!". Its an amoral philosophy. Im 100%'convinced he is part of the movement to legitimize pedo behavior, pedo "dreams actualuzed". They actually have a "pedosexual rights" flag now and of course they are also using the same slogan as rest of Lgbt "love is love!" (((They))) think "Who could argue with that?" The movement is already adding the P to lgbt-P.... $100 says this guy is part of the "philosophical grounding" of the pedo movement. No f-ing way he does not know its a pedo sign!! Next question is, does he have a girlfriend in his "amazing and sucessful" life? Another $100 says no he does not. Thats not part of his "dream". I say BUSTED.
I also am so sick and tired of these screwed up idiots. Another faker. Ha ha. If you look he tells how to give a best ever orgasm to you r gf. I kid you not. I did not read. I agree. BUSTED.
I'm beginning to think that we need to go after those hosting these sites. If there's something illegal going on, if people are being bought and sold, those hosting should also be held accountable. If we can't get into these sites without a passcode, and we can't patrol the dark web without being arrested for stumbling on something, then methinks we should go after those hosting the servers. GoDaddy came up before...we need to start tracking these and push for legislation, even if it's state by state. Excuse my language, but these fuckers need to be arrested soon...people are buying and selling people!!! I'm fucking livid.
I know everyday I think of how many will be raped, tortured and killed. I also say we leave no one out. No matter who they are or what their position, if they work with children, I am sad to say, they are now suspect. YES! We must push for legislation. We will also see then, who is against it. We can ask them why.
Seriously they ALL have 33 in their phone numbers, its really stupid obvious once you start looking for it. Ever meet someone with the last name Freeman or Mason? Check out that phone number
So after a quick browse through the site on my break at work. I would hardly consider it "obvious". There is indeed a double triangle symbol. But remember symbols are just that. A symbol representing SOMETHING. Maybe he's ignorant to the wretched community that uses this symbol and what it means to them. Until further data points are found in regards to this, I would consider this just coincidence. I will say again though, I'm on my break at work, so I can't dig too deep at the moment.
I think your caution is very good on this. The spiral triangle is just that, a spiral triangle. If someone uses this logo it's not 100% proof someone is a pedo. I've followed this guy's channel for some time, he has some good ideas for small entrepreneurs etc. Eccentric guy maybe but if there is no other proof then what's the fuss? Quite a stretch to relate him to pizzagate. If someone from known pedo circles who's already suspicious uses the logo then it's a very meaningful coincidence. But some random guy using the logo doesn't prove anything.
I appreciate that. It's really funny, cause I'm so used to being "the crazy tin foil hat wearer" amongst everyone I know and interact with irl, but I find myself trying to talk sense into even crazier people here. Lol
Oh boy... do people have any ability to deconstruct and analyze cult behavior and detect how members are recruited ? Anybody giving this guy the benefit of the doubt probably lacks all intuition or common sense.
A. I'm no troll
B. I stated twice that I read the post and quickly glanced through the website, and replied on a 15 minute break at work.
Hardly enough time to make any sort of determination. All I saw that was suspicious was the logo. Now considering the symbol itself is a a geometric shape and not something more uncommon. I can't take the symbol for face value and just call the guy a pedo. Based solely on the symbol, I can not say "it's obvious" this guy is one of them. Now if the symbol for pedophilia were something more elaborate like an equalateral triangle within a circle with a number 52 stylized in the corner or something more customized than 2 generic geometric shapes, then it would be more obvious. I don't assume anything without verifiable proof.
C. I suggest you do the same.
I will also for a 3rd time express my ignorance to the entire website as I haven't the time to go through it atm, but I am merely pointing out that symbols are symbols, and they mean different things to different people. The swastika was a symbol loooooooong before nazi Germany adopted it. I could easily see a graphic artist ignorantly drawing two triangles and using it for something, nor knowing about its sinister use. Just playing devils advocate like any good researcher should.
Plenty of time to weigh in here but not check out the content, prior to posting an opinion? First of all, the logo is a near identical match, not a 'vague representation'. And if you are familiar with the investigation, when the logos are found it indicates nothing more than a beacon for further investigation, not a slam dunk conviction.
Sorry, buddy. I don't need suggestions from you about how to handle evidence surrounding this investigation. For you to lecture me is a bit of joke, considering you have not personally investigated anything sufficiently enough to even offer a single legitimate submission. To me, you're getting faker with every post.
sigh
Firstly, if you had the slightest grasp on the English language you would understand that I'm not refuting that the symbol isn't an exact match. In fact, my exact words were: "there is indeed a double triangle symbol" Im questioning the guys awareness of the meaning of the symbol to the pedo community. I'm pointing out how generic the symbol is itself, and the possibility of someone recreating the symbol unbeknownst to the sinister message it carries. Secondly, if you're going to quote me, accurately quote me. What kind of a self proclaimed researcher can't even properly quote someone. I would like to state for the record I never once said "vague" anywhere in this thread, so I'm not sure where you pulled that from. To me, you're resembling a troll more and more with every post.
I will give you this, I probably shouldn't have commented on the thread until entirely reading it, but I did limit my comment to what I did see, and stated very clearly of this fact.
oh... and have you ever considered that the symbols are ubiquitous for a reason other than coincidence ? Does the fact that Jimmy Comet was at the White House 5 times concern you at all that the pedo cult has infected nearly every corner of our society?
I'm aware James Alefantis visited the WH several times, yes. Am concerned about this? It's definitely establishing a connection of some kind, not sure I would say I'm concerned though. It's circumstantial evidence alone. His WH visits coupled with all the other circumstantial evidence is what concerns me.
I'm sitting in the break room at my job. It's a personal preference to not watch videos related to pizza gate or anything that may jeopardize my reputation in the workplace. Some of us have careers and bills to pay. Sorry we can't all live in our mothers basement for free eating hotpockets, and complaining that she bought the wrong kind.
You come off as an idiot. Instead of being childish and making immature insinuations, why don't you just link to all the proof you've supposedly found?
for whom? You? go fuck yourself and watch the videos and then come back with a comment of your own. I don't give a fuck about your opinion of me, you worthless shitbag.
being aggressive helps nobody. we should investigate and discuss together. the symbol is indeed the same but you can't just say that there is proof that this guy is a pedo without any further ties. Do you really want to damage someones reputation that isn't a pedo? ...how would u feel if someone is doing that to you? Please don't jump to conclusions!
I'm not against investigating that dude. But it's not okay to jump to conclusions without any further evidence. just the logo alone doesn't make him a pedophile. we need to investigate further if there is something or not. But if he is innocent he doesn't deserve to be called a pedophile. ...thats far away from concern trolling.
Haha...you're too easy. It's fun though, anyways...let's try this again: Instead of being childish and making immature insinuations, why don't you just link to all the proof you've supposedly found?
Will you be responding to this anytime soon: Instead of being childish and making immature insinuations, why don't you just link to all the proof you've supposedly found?
One can only know you won't because you're immature and childish.
Very well said. I think it's important not to start a witch-hunt against everybody that uses similar or same symbols because u can't say if the person that made the logo is aware of the FBI document. But of course it is important to look closer.
oooo.... Thanks for confirming what I have been witnessing over the last few weeks on PG Voat... the battle is being lost by the guilty and it's time to break out the (( WITCH HUNT )) wall of protection. It's a classic diversion to deflect ANY inquiry into suspicious characters, for risk of being labeled (( PARANOID )). It's a last ditch effort to flip the script and put sensible, concerned investigators on the defensive. You may not be doing it intentionally, but why question the motives of the OP rather than the guy with the pedo logo on his YT page with all the cult content red flags?
if he is in a cult it doesn't mean he is a pedophile. we can't just mark someone as a pedo when there isn't any evidence. the logo itself isn't enough. investigating and collecting information / evidence is the best way.
Good god that was a heck of a rabbit hole. What a creep, he's straight up a fucking cult leader. If he's not a pedo, then he's being sponsored by pedos and is just a guy who's good at scamming idiots out of their money.
"Blueberry and spinach smoothies for higher conciseness guys!"
I'm with the people who say that the symbol isn't outright proof of anything, even though it is suspicious.
I do find the guy to be a creep, however, for other reasons. He's talking a bunch of gobbledy gook and trying to get idiots to pay for it. (I LOL'd so hard at" blueberry spinach and smoothies for higher consciousness guys!")
strix-varia ago
I know it is posted somewhere on Voat, but can someone tell me if a circular spiral is also suspicious? I know the spiral triangle is on the fbi files. But I am noticing the circles everywhere.
Astrodreamer ago
Being a Polish jew myself I am pretty familiar with typical polish jewish names -- and Leo Gura does not seem to be a typical Polish jewish name at all, IMO.
dmthirdeye ago
"Advanced Personal Development" "Advanced PErsonal Devel Opment".... Advanced Pedo?
dmthirdeye ago
The forums on the website seem kind of strange too I just started looking and this is literally 1 minute into looking at posts... https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/9919-flirting-is-in-my-dna-excuse-me-please/
Psychanaut ago
OMG high creep factor. Anyone catch this little gem at the very very very very bottom past the videos, past the glorious praise, past all the low low low discounted price:
Symeon ago
Of course he knows its a pedo sign! His whole "job" is to sell his obsessive and delusional thoughts, but he thoughtlessly chose a pedo sign for his website? Also he is selling an amoral "anything goes"... "All dreams actualized"... "You control reality" Philosophy. So yeah he 100% pedo imo. 100 says he has no girlfriend either in his "sucessful, amazing, he does anything he wants, gets anything he wants" life. BUSTED. Good post. He is the type who will try to ground "pedosexual" into a philosophy that valudates the desire to have sex with children. Keep an eye on him. HE WILL show ip on the radar as the movement gains ground and approaches LGBTP!
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pavezi ago
Haven't seen any real evidence or anything that links this guy to pedophilia other than the logo. Not saying it's not possible, but so far seems bizarre why so many people are immediately so convinced. I mean for example the video about not caring what other people think - wouldn't that apply to pizzagate as well? People think we're crazy and so on, so maybe this guy has good advice on that. If someone finds any proof or more evidence linking Leo to pedophilia, then present it. If the logo is all there is then this is a dead end, and not really that important when the whole context of pizzagate and the politicians, billionaires etc. are taken in to account, and how comparatively meaningless some guy giving self development advice on the internet. But sure people accusing this man, make your case, see if you can find anything.
blablah ago
TIPP: search for pedo/pedophilia at their forums: https://www.actualized.org/forum/search/
maybe we can find something
HollandDrive ago
I swear this guy reminds me of a buddy (ex) of mine that's doing 30 years for statutory rape.
Seriously. Total manipulator type. Yeah, reminds me of him quite a bit. (In a state where the prisoners don't take kindly to this sorta thing.)
fartyshorts ago
I went through and archived his website. Thanks for not helping me. :(
possiblepizza ago
You da real MVP, Mr. Shorts.
carmencita ago
Well, I have looked into the books he offers and the store, there is nothing that I see that is shady as if yet. He even recommends the Four Agreements which I have in my home. The only thought I have that is left to pursue is that it is a front for a CP site. That is a lot of followers, 600K.
Micheal84 ago
This is discussed before here
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1688403
Made a comment there:
Check out this video of his site https://www.actualized.org/articles/a-rant-against-morality In the comments section he is arguing with a guy named Kevin, Kevin is complaining he is protecting pedos, well he does "Yes, I actually like defending pedophiles and Nazi’s because there is a much bigger issue at stake. Namely false moralizing that people do with respect to them" I didn't watch the video yet, but maybe someone has time for it.
jstayz44 ago
He's a total creep. The video I watched started with him sharing a "secret." While that's not necessarily different than others trying to gain some type of success, I do wonder how often he uses it in his videos. That Boy Love symbol sure is everywhere. This is a good one OP!! Right in front of our faces...now where is the devious behavior happening? That is always the million dollar question.
carmencita ago
Yes, this is always the question. The title "Zen Devil" WTH is that about? More must be looked at here. I have a feeling there is more to this than the symbol, although that is suspect enough. With this guy being into Zen and all of this Love Fest stuff do not tell me he has never seen the Boy Love Sign.
Symeon ago
Good point on the idea he does not know what the sign is. His whole "job" is to obsessively "think" about life and sell his thoughts. So he thoughtlessly chose a well known pedo sign? Also his whole philosophical approach to "reality" is promoting "anything goes", "any dream you have can be yours!". Its an amoral philosophy. Im 100%'convinced he is part of the movement to legitimize pedo behavior, pedo "dreams actualuzed". They actually have a "pedosexual rights" flag now and of course they are also using the same slogan as rest of Lgbt "love is love!" (((They))) think "Who could argue with that?" The movement is already adding the P to lgbt-P.... $100 says this guy is part of the "philosophical grounding" of the pedo movement. No f-ing way he does not know its a pedo sign!! Next question is, does he have a girlfriend in his "amazing and sucessful" life? Another $100 says no he does not. Thats not part of his "dream". I say BUSTED.
carmencita ago
I also am so sick and tired of these screwed up idiots. Another faker. Ha ha. If you look he tells how to give a best ever orgasm to you r gf. I kid you not. I did not read. I agree. BUSTED.
jstayz44 ago
I'm beginning to think that we need to go after those hosting these sites. If there's something illegal going on, if people are being bought and sold, those hosting should also be held accountable. If we can't get into these sites without a passcode, and we can't patrol the dark web without being arrested for stumbling on something, then methinks we should go after those hosting the servers. GoDaddy came up before...we need to start tracking these and push for legislation, even if it's state by state. Excuse my language, but these fuckers need to be arrested soon...people are buying and selling people!!! I'm fucking livid.
carmencita ago
I know everyday I think of how many will be raped, tortured and killed. I also say we leave no one out. No matter who they are or what their position, if they work with children, I am sad to say, they are now suspect. YES! We must push for legislation. We will also see then, who is against it. We can ask them why.
equineluvr ago
We already have legislation, in EVERY state of the country.
The problem is crypto Jew Freemason judges on the bench who give slaps on the wrist to their fellow pedo buddies.
carmencita ago
Not all judges are Jews. Still, at it aren't you? Not going to bite.
jstrotha0975 ago
Look at the hand symbols.
jenidaninja ago
They're fucking everywhere...
MolochHunter ago
this would appear to be a guy who has inadvertently adopted the fbi triangular paedo symbol. His theme is 'actualised', starts with an A
im sure he'd be horrified to learn of the parallels, so im guessing
Gorillion ago
Ooooor, he chose the name "Actualized" out of a big long list of potential words, specifically because it would allow him to use the pedo symbol?
FriesischShipping ago
like Freemasonry and 33
dmthirdeye ago
Seriously they ALL have 33 in their phone numbers, its really stupid obvious once you start looking for it. Ever meet someone with the last name Freeman or Mason? Check out that phone number
FriesischShipping ago
Its so obvious = rigged reality.
remedy4reality ago
C'mon... inadvertently? Listen to the content of this shit and the universal praise of the commentators.
This is a Nike wearing, Ajax eating, comet impacting, shitfest.
Cigarette5mokingman ago
So after a quick browse through the site on my break at work. I would hardly consider it "obvious". There is indeed a double triangle symbol. But remember symbols are just that. A symbol representing SOMETHING. Maybe he's ignorant to the wretched community that uses this symbol and what it means to them. Until further data points are found in regards to this, I would consider this just coincidence. I will say again though, I'm on my break at work, so I can't dig too deep at the moment.
pavezi ago
I think your caution is very good on this. The spiral triangle is just that, a spiral triangle. If someone uses this logo it's not 100% proof someone is a pedo. I've followed this guy's channel for some time, he has some good ideas for small entrepreneurs etc. Eccentric guy maybe but if there is no other proof then what's the fuss? Quite a stretch to relate him to pizzagate. If someone from known pedo circles who's already suspicious uses the logo then it's a very meaningful coincidence. But some random guy using the logo doesn't prove anything.
Cigarette5mokingman ago
I appreciate that. It's really funny, cause I'm so used to being "the crazy tin foil hat wearer" amongst everyone I know and interact with irl, but I find myself trying to talk sense into even crazier people here. Lol
remedy4reality ago
Oh boy... do people have any ability to deconstruct and analyze cult behavior and detect how members are recruited ? Anybody giving this guy the benefit of the doubt probably lacks all intuition or common sense.
You sound like a typical (( CONCERN TROLL ))
Cigarette5mokingman ago
A. I'm no troll B. I stated twice that I read the post and quickly glanced through the website, and replied on a 15 minute break at work. Hardly enough time to make any sort of determination. All I saw that was suspicious was the logo. Now considering the symbol itself is a a geometric shape and not something more uncommon. I can't take the symbol for face value and just call the guy a pedo. Based solely on the symbol, I can not say "it's obvious" this guy is one of them. Now if the symbol for pedophilia were something more elaborate like an equalateral triangle within a circle with a number 52 stylized in the corner or something more customized than 2 generic geometric shapes, then it would be more obvious. I don't assume anything without verifiable proof. C. I suggest you do the same.
I will also for a 3rd time express my ignorance to the entire website as I haven't the time to go through it atm, but I am merely pointing out that symbols are symbols, and they mean different things to different people. The swastika was a symbol loooooooong before nazi Germany adopted it. I could easily see a graphic artist ignorantly drawing two triangles and using it for something, nor knowing about its sinister use. Just playing devils advocate like any good researcher should.
equineluvr ago
Around here, the definition of "troll" is "anyone who disagrees with me."
remedy4reality ago
Plenty of time to weigh in here but not check out the content, prior to posting an opinion? First of all, the logo is a near identical match, not a 'vague representation'. And if you are familiar with the investigation, when the logos are found it indicates nothing more than a beacon for further investigation, not a slam dunk conviction.
Sorry, buddy. I don't need suggestions from you about how to handle evidence surrounding this investigation. For you to lecture me is a bit of joke, considering you have not personally investigated anything sufficiently enough to even offer a single legitimate submission. To me, you're getting faker with every post.
Cigarette5mokingman ago
sigh Firstly, if you had the slightest grasp on the English language you would understand that I'm not refuting that the symbol isn't an exact match. In fact, my exact words were: "there is indeed a double triangle symbol" Im questioning the guys awareness of the meaning of the symbol to the pedo community. I'm pointing out how generic the symbol is itself, and the possibility of someone recreating the symbol unbeknownst to the sinister message it carries. Secondly, if you're going to quote me, accurately quote me. What kind of a self proclaimed researcher can't even properly quote someone. I would like to state for the record I never once said "vague" anywhere in this thread, so I'm not sure where you pulled that from. To me, you're resembling a troll more and more with every post.
I will give you this, I probably shouldn't have commented on the thread until entirely reading it, but I did limit my comment to what I did see, and stated very clearly of this fact.
remedy4reality ago
oh... and have you ever considered that the symbols are ubiquitous for a reason other than coincidence ? Does the fact that Jimmy Comet was at the White House 5 times concern you at all that the pedo cult has infected nearly every corner of our society?
Cigarette5mokingman ago
Do you know what playing devil's advocate means?
I'm aware James Alefantis visited the WH several times, yes. Am concerned about this? It's definitely establishing a connection of some kind, not sure I would say I'm concerned though. It's circumstantial evidence alone. His WH visits coupled with all the other circumstantial evidence is what concerns me.
remedy4reality ago
still has not watched the video because of time constraints, but continues to type away
Cigarette5mokingman ago
I'm sitting in the break room at my job. It's a personal preference to not watch videos related to pizza gate or anything that may jeopardize my reputation in the workplace. Some of us have careers and bills to pay. Sorry we can't all live in our mothers basement for free eating hotpockets, and complaining that she bought the wrong kind.
remedy4reality ago
but always time to blab blab blab.. It's Easter Sunday.. lol who the fuck works on Easter Sunday that has any kind of important job ?
(( WALMART ))
equineluvr ago
MEDICAL personnel and professionals work on holidays, just to name one.
Cigarette5mokingman ago
I'm an agnostic, I could care less about some religious holiday to be honest. Religion doesn't pay my bills, hard work does.
Try it some time. Maybe some day you can buy your own meatball hotpockets.
remedy4reality ago
in the breakroom on Easter Sunday at a place where he's worried about his bosses looking over his shoulder
continues to feign relevance and status lol
Cigarette5mokingman ago
Obvious troll is obvious.jpg
we_kill_creativity ago
You come off as an idiot. Instead of being childish and making immature insinuations, why don't you just link to all the proof you've supposedly found?
remedy4reality ago
for whom? You? go fuck yourself and watch the videos and then come back with a comment of your own. I don't give a fuck about your opinion of me, you worthless shitbag.
blablah ago
being aggressive helps nobody. we should investigate and discuss together. the symbol is indeed the same but you can't just say that there is proof that this guy is a pedo without any further ties. Do you really want to damage someones reputation that isn't a pedo? ...how would u feel if someone is doing that to you? Please don't jump to conclusions!
remedy4reality ago
yep... concern trolls are everywhere
blablah ago
I'm not against investigating that dude. But it's not okay to jump to conclusions without any further evidence. just the logo alone doesn't make him a pedophile. we need to investigate further if there is something or not. But if he is innocent he doesn't deserve to be called a pedophile. ...thats far away from concern trolling.
we_kill_creativity ago
Haha...you're too easy. It's fun though, anyways...let's try this again: Instead of being childish and making immature insinuations, why don't you just link to all the proof you've supposedly found?
You don't have any....
remedy4reality ago
will you be fucking off soon?
One can only hope.
we_kill_creativity ago
Will you be responding to this anytime soon: Instead of being childish and making immature insinuations, why don't you just link to all the proof you've supposedly found?
One can only know you won't because you're immature and childish.
blablah ago
Very well said. I think it's important not to start a witch-hunt against everybody that uses similar or same symbols because u can't say if the person that made the logo is aware of the FBI document. But of course it is important to look closer.
remedy4reality ago
oooo.... Thanks for confirming what I have been witnessing over the last few weeks on PG Voat... the battle is being lost by the guilty and it's time to break out the (( WITCH HUNT )) wall of protection. It's a classic diversion to deflect ANY inquiry into suspicious characters, for risk of being labeled (( PARANOID )). It's a last ditch effort to flip the script and put sensible, concerned investigators on the defensive. You may not be doing it intentionally, but why question the motives of the OP rather than the guy with the pedo logo on his YT page with all the cult content red flags?
blablah ago
if he is in a cult it doesn't mean he is a pedophile. we can't just mark someone as a pedo when there isn't any evidence. the logo itself isn't enough. investigating and collecting information / evidence is the best way.
Cigarette5mokingman ago
Totally agree. I was never saying it's not possible this guy is a pedo, I was just saying based on the symbol alone, it's just not enough.
DeadMary ago
Good god that was a heck of a rabbit hole. What a creep, he's straight up a fucking cult leader. If he's not a pedo, then he's being sponsored by pedos and is just a guy who's good at scamming idiots out of their money.
"Blueberry and spinach smoothies for higher conciseness guys!"
wtf
eucalyptus_spearmint ago
I'm with the people who say that the symbol isn't outright proof of anything, even though it is suspicious.
I do find the guy to be a creep, however, for other reasons. He's talking a bunch of gobbledy gook and trying to get idiots to pay for it. (I LOL'd so hard at" blueberry spinach and smoothies for higher consciousness guys!")
educate_yourself ago
hes a pedo just based on hand symbols alone plus his website if taken literally is boylove actualized
HelpMeExpose ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZm4B4foybM
HollandDrive ago
This guy's gotta be a pedo, the symbol is there, and his shtick is "don't worry about morals or what other people think about you."
He'd be a good boy love advocate. Or good buddy of Koresh.
dmthirdeye ago
Ya anyone not worried about morals is going to be the exact kind of person I look at in these situations.