Fatherhood video of John Podesta Must Be For Real - How do I know? Troll army tactic: posting links to child porn, intimidation (pizzagate)

submitted ago by cakeoflightylight

Just wanted you guys to be aware that while browsing the deleted comments I noticed many removed comments for reason: child porn. One of the trolls is a person who spent quite some time trolling me and @abortionburger had been tagged in to moderate his comments. I had to block him.

I never clicked on anything he said that had a link but watch out. This dude was trying to convince me that the Fatherhood Web video was a hoax to get people to click on the worldcorp website in order to click on child porn. Please be wary of him. He also spent a long time in PMs trying to argue with me about a pedo I had personal knowledge of and tried to scare me making me think if I did not do something right then I would get sued or otherwise be in danger.

The fact that anyone trolls pizzagate researchers with child porn links while calling the fatherhood web video a hoax tells me that Skippy Podesta is hiring him. This same guy claimed that the kid in the video said the name Darren, not John.

To me it sounded like a British accent screaming John, not "Darren."

Please check deleted comments and watch out for similar people and tactics. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/comment

Please continue reporting that video to the FBI / Trey Gowdy.

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DarkMath ago

"dude was trying to convince me that the Fatherhood Web video was a hoax"

I hope you don't think that was me. I've been skeptical of that video from the beginning. With all do respect to you and @pungent that's not John Podesta in the video. It's a guy with a Boston accent. I'm not saying the fatherhood video is real or fake. I'm just saying the father is from Boston and John Podesta's from Chicago. They can't be the same person.

Since they're not the same person everything points to that video being a hoax. Sorry. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

V____Z ago

But your opinion on things related to Comet might be colored by your overall attitude about pizzagate, which I found surprising:

[–] DarkMath 0 points (+1|-1) 23 hours ago We've pried enough in James Alefantis' life don't you think? We found no evidence the guy did anything wrong AND we looked like fascist ass-holes doing it.

Did you not get the memo or something? CPP and JA were an expertly laid trap to catch and discredit deplorable shit lords. It's time to plow a new field.

DarkMath ago

Again we found no hard evidence and we lost all our credibility looking for it.

Going over the same sterile ground when we could be looking in a new location suggests to me you're the shill here.

V____Z ago

Comet ground is SO not sterile dude.

DarkMath ago

"Comet ground is SO not sterile dude."

I'm just looking at hard evidence that can be used in a court of law. As far as a court of law is concerned CPP and JA are sterile ground.

Now do I think something might be a little sketchy? Yes. Something ain't right. I think we can all agree on that. There's more to the story that's for sure. But the golden thread that unravels the mystery isn't anywhere near CPP or JA.

V____Z ago

the golden thread that unravels the mystery isn't anywhere near CPP or JA

And how in the world do you know this???

DarkMath ago

It's just a hunch based on my belief that entire block was set up as a "red-herring". A red-herring is 100% distraction, always has been and always will be.

It's a slight of hand. How many time do you have to be fooled before you start looking at the other hand?

Breadleaf ago

"They can't be the same person." Great job. we all know it's physically impossible to mimic an accent. No one in the history of humanity has imitated an english accent to jokingly sound "smart, and not one person has ever done an italian accent when they are jokingly sounding intimidating. /sarcasm

I don't want to hear people dealing in absolutes in defense of JP unless they have really good evidence. The burden of proof lies on the side trying to defend him, so you better back it up when saying there's no way its him, not just this weak ass accent argument.

I mean this in the harshest way possible (as the force of this word has been lost with it's overuse) you sound like a fucking shill and I am watching your activity as of now.

DarkMath ago

I don't have any other evidence. The Boston accent is very hard if not impossible to fake. I don't know why.

AngB23 ago

I have to say the man (possibly Podesta) in the father vid is DEFINTELY a Chicago accent. Besides being in complete shock of the poor kid, that was the first thing I noticed. I grew up outside of Chicago. There are differences between Boston and Chicago accents. Chicago tends to not use TH sounds properly or N'T like Don't. Doncha instead of don't ya.

Also the "o" in hot stuff line. The o sound is Chicago.

mathemagician33 ago

where exactly did you grow up? I've lived on the south side of the city for the majority of my life, and I can tell you with confidence that did NOT sound like a chicago accent to me.

AngB23 ago

That floors me. You can not hear a Chicago accent? He sounds like every guy in my family and most of the local people I waited on back in the days when I worked at Ditka's.

mathemagician33 ago

I don't really want to listen to the video again at the moment, but if I'm not super depressed later on I'll give it another go and see if I can catch what you mean. I don't hear the chicago accent at all, but then again I grew up in Englewood, which is very different as a neighborhood than the areas you mention.

AngB23 ago

Ya, i get what ur saying about listening to it again. I was going to, I just can't. I cried off and on for three days the first time. I guess there's another vid of it more clear (visual wise) and I just can't do it. Listen to his Os, As and the doncha part. Shit, it sounds like one of my uncles but a higher voice. Of course, I could be wrong and maybe it is NY or Boston, who the hell knows. No mistaking however, the kid is being tortured and scared out of their mind.

I think someone did computerized test on it, like a comparison to the voice and Podesta and it came out a match. It was on YT somewhere but probably scrapped by now.

ETA- maybe first listen to Podesta on some vids. He is from NW Chicago and def has the accent. Usually it comes out more, if people are excited or mad.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kopkTq65LZk

HollandDrive ago

I'll never get over how much that sounds like Podesta (in the video).

Regardless of all the back and forth about accents.

People do shill hard against this video even being discussed on the forum, esp. that MagaBoomer person.

mathemagician33 ago

yeah, I lost it the first time I saw the video. it's infuriating that people refer to this video as a "hoax" since there's obviously a child being tortured, regardless of who the abuser is.

I actually saw one of those videos with an audio comparison that supposedly matched up to JP also (as I remember, they matched it to one of his speeches on the HRC campaign trail). I don't remember the specifics anymore, but I remember being doubtful because the audio software they were using was pretty much a joke (I did some audio/music engineering when I was a bit younger). I remember specifically thinking to myself that this audio comparison was a lot like the photo comparison from www.twinsornot.net early on in the investigation where someone put in Caris James and Madeline McCann's photos for comparison, and they came back a 100% match despite not really looking anything alike. I tried twinsornot.net myself because I was curious, and more often than not it would return a 100% match for photos of me compared to friends who look nothing at all like me (by which I mean, not even the same race). If you're feeling up to it later and want to try to find that audio comparison again, I might be up for looking further into it.

AngB23 ago

Ok cool. Ya, I don't know much about that audio stuff. And very good idea for someone different, like you, to maybe run another test.

DarkMath ago

"Chicago accent"

Sorry but that's a Boston accent. There's no question. Unless you've lived in Massachusetts you'd never know though.

mathemagician33 ago

@DarkMath is right about this. I was just mentioning in another thread earlier how I am from chicago. It's not a chicago accent. It sounds to me like it may be a new england accent, but tbh I haven't spent enough time in that part of the country to say. That said, I have heard someone do what I thought was a pretty decent imitation of a Boston accent, but that's pretty irrelevant ;)

AngB23 ago

And unless you've lived in Chicago you wouldn't either. I always get mistaken for being from Boston, New York or Jersey. I'm tellin you, it's Chicago.

DarkMath ago

That accent is Chicago? I don't think anyone believes that. We all agree it's a Boston accent. The question is whether John Podesta can imitate a Boston accent or not. I've never heard a Boston accent imitated perfectly. It's almost impossible.

V____Z ago

We all agree? You're misrepresenting the very comments in this thread, no one agrees with you. And asserting yourself as an authority whilst claiming Comet and the pizzagate evidence we have surrounding it are an expertly laid plan, and that we should just leave Alefantis alone, makes you appear to be a shill, my friend.

DarkMath ago

"We all agree?"

I apologize. We don't all agree. You're correct. What I meant was many people including me think the whole WorldCorpo videos are disinformation.

"we should just leave Alefantis alone, makes you appear to be a shill, my friend."

I don't care. The witch hunt around JA pretty much destroyed /v/pizzagate's entire credibility which wasn't very high to begin with.

We found no hard evidence of a crime. In my opinion it's actually YOU who are looking like a shill here for wanting to go over the same ground we spent months finding no hard evidence in.

V____Z ago

You literally sound like Alex Jones now. Do you watch him a lot?

cakeoflightylight ago

agreed!!!

AngB23 ago

Well, I guess I'm not agreeing with "everyone". Search old post here when this first came out. I called it a Chicago accent w/out even knowing where Podesta was from. So I guess you need to find your Boston mystery man.

DarkMath ago

Have you ever lived in Chicago or Boston?

AngB23 ago

Did you not read my earlier post?

wincraft71 ago

So if I get high and drunk and rob a bank in a New York accent while I'm in an amped up or disassociated state of mind, will the investigators look the other way because "They can't be the same person"?

DarkMath ago

Good question. I don't know.

cakeoflightylight ago

Also as for a Boston Accent, I had a boyfriend with a Boston accent and I always thought Boston accents were pretty awesome, so I've listened to them for hours with intrigue. I don't really think you can seriously question the video based on your own perception of which accent it is unless perhaps you're some kind of CIA language expert. To me, it sounds like John Podesta, but I have a hard time listening to it for very long.

DarkMath ago

I'm not a CIA language expert but I've heard that accent about 1,000,000 times. It's not even a question. Trust me. It's a Boston accent.

cakeoflightylight ago

I don't "trust you" but even if it is, it can still be Podesta. I can speak in other accents. Can't most people? Nobody who knows me can tell where I am from. I incorporated the accents of my friends growing up because I was embarrassed about where I grew up having a certain accent I did not want to copy.

DarkMath ago

The Boston accent can't be faked. I've never heard it successfully faked yet. I can't even go to a movie where the actor is faking the accent because it's like finger nails on a chalk board.

cakeoflightylight ago

Not faked, anyone can learn to speak with an accent. It's not hard. I pocked mah caw in Haavayd Yawd.

DarkMath ago

The guys is doing more than dropping r's. You'd have to live in and around Boston to understand all the tiny little nuances. There's different way's to drop an R. A Maine accent drops the R as well but it's not a Boston accent. The guy in the video has a Boston accent. End of story.

FckPizza3 ago

This is really rude. End of story?? It's not an end of story it is simply your opinion. Your trying to be all alpha style and it makes you look like a dick-

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

You kind of look like an argumentative little brat.

Any good reason not to believe a dude from Boston about his regional dialect?

FckPizza3 ago

I'm simply saying that it's his opinion as it's the opion of those that are against him... I'm not taking sides here... I just don't agree with how he ended the argument.

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

It's the opinion of some people the accents they see in the movies are genuine.

That's not a valid opinion.

FckPizza3 ago

Eww just go away...

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

You'd do well to sign up for a few classes in logic...

FckPizza3 ago

I'm currently enrolled in college... perhaps I'll add this to the list

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

They really do help a person to ask the right questions...

I swear I learned more about how language is used in that class than my entire high school English curriculum.

DarkMath ago

I don't care. You couldn't recognize a Boston accent if it bit you in the ass.

FckPizza3 ago

You're absolutely right. I couldn't. Which is why I have not commented on this. I don't know for certain that it's JP... but I don't know that it's not. You however should not take a certain stance against your fellow teammates WHO ARE ON THE SAME SIDE BTW as fact... when it is simply opinion... and the fact that you dismissed them and tried to state this as fact in such a rude manner makes you a dick

DarkMath ago

If that's the charge I stand convicted. I am a dick.

I'm pissed off people keep getting fooled by the same card trick. I grow weary in disbelief.

FckPizza3 ago

I understand... when I hear the voice I instantly think mafia style movies... Robert deniro style... these people have studied voices ... it's there job.... I will never say it is for sure JP.... but it is really easy to take on a different accent... take military kid's for example... They pick up what they are around... Your argument is simply not plausible. I'm sorry I called you a dick but you can't simply write this whole thing off either... it's 50/50 at this point...

DarkMath ago

"people have studied voices"

I know but I've never heard someone imitate the Boston accent correctly to the point I couldn't tell

FckPizza3 ago

Have you looked up actors or military kid's??? Source your stuff honestly!! Like your opinion doesn't matter

cakeoflightylight ago

It was MAGA Boomer.

wincraft71 ago

MAGABoomer is a shill. This is my comment on /v/pizzagateshills that armyseer removed saying it was "disinformation":

Late to the party but I agree with the MagaBoomer tag, he's been doing overtime for a week straight trying to distract from the video evidence saying oh it's faked the audio is fake the video is altered, some 4chan guy is laughing his ass off somewhere "do you even internetz?" and writing snarky comments saying it's been on the internet since forever, but doesn't provide any links as proof that the video came from another source and is in fact older.

Even if it was older that doesn't mean it's not John Podesta. You know the voice is similar and I highly doubt that's some carefully crafted troll. They've been sowing seeds of doubt and disinformation and discrediting the /v/pizzagate forum as being a bunch of concerned parents and facebook moms, then when anyone argues with them they bring up safespaces and try to make them feel stupid. It's the best evidence we have had so far potentially tying John Podesta to child abuse. It could be hackers or law enforcement that leaked it to us using the worldcorp as cover, and shills like them are trying to say it's all one big distractiion.

But the question is why do they care so much about this video specifically? People post stupid fucking bullshit all day long circle-jerking about David Seaman and other loose abstract things but somehow for a week straight all they've done is try to discredit the fatherhood video and discourage the discussion. Interesting they'd go through so much trouble fighting against something that's one of the best potential convincing leads we've had so far.