I'm not sure we are so desperate for real leads that we need to post everything Webb says. If he offers proof, or sources besides his own mouth, that's different. He has said questionable things in the past and many here are suspicious of him. Perhaps a separate sub for those who like this drama he is doing, but I don't think it warrants posting here.
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2 down votes for asking for actual sources, whilst another commenter here already points out that Webb got some facts wrong. But we just worship personalities around here, not facts. So downvote away.
You never linked me that video that was suppose to prove me wrong, did you? You watched two of his videos, as you've stated, and decided that he's full of shit. You still follow his posts and in every single one you comment and say vaguely how no one can trust him.
I'm not defending George Webb, I'm defending critical thinking.
I told you already, and this is the last time. Out of the hundreds of Webb videos, no I cannot possibly link to the one I saw, but I have mentioned his promise of a million dollars for anyone tweeting this certain hashtag, and others here remember that too. They often chime in with more and more absurd stuff. I am not alone in my feelings about Webb.
I also caught him in a lie and was not impressed with his response. Because of his reputation and supposed time with the CIA, I figured he was very careful with his words and conveying truth. Therefore he would correct himself in a responsible way if he told an untruth.
Someone here told me that he called David seaman "disinfo" in one of his videos. I have heard all of David's videos, and he has not put out any misstatements. I was surprised to hear that a respected fellow researcher/YouTuber would say such a thing when it was not true. I knew that I hadn't missed something that George caught - I see every one of David's videos and I know the pizzagate story pretty well. David has been spot on and hasn't led us astray even once.
So I asked Webb about this on Twitter, what had David said that was disinfo? That's a pretty serious accusation and webs channel has a pretty big audience, making this statement even more serious.
Webb brushed it off, didn't try to defend himself, just said "oh, I should have said "distraction""
I asked him if he would correct himself in another video, as opposed to a reply to a tweet where only a few will see the correction. He ignored me.
The difference between "disinfo" and "distraction" is ginormous. The lack of retraction agregious. Webb is trying to fuck up our investigation and hand out little tidbits of essentially meaningless information to what he knows is a hungry audience not well versed in psyops.
As a closing, I'll say this: the problem I had with you is that you show up over and over and just say vague shit like "He has said questionable things in the past and many here are suspicious of him." Well, that's great and all, but who exactly is "many" referring to here? Not going to prove that? You've dropped the Gwen thing as far as I can tell, and refuse to revisit that. How about you speak to that too.
There's so many holes in your reasoning, and the fact that I'm trying to pull you away from focusing on individuals while you stare at missing tiles and scream about them is literally just making me think you're here to bring people back around to cpp while you discredit people that are putting in hard work. Whether you want to believe big contributors are slowly leading us to nothing or not, these people have still provivded a helping hand in spreading awareness. If you're here to help these kids, that should be good enough to you, and it shouldnt' matter quite so much what their motives were in the begninng of this investigation. We should be focused on the positive value individuals bring to us that are small players in this game (even if they have loud voices, they're small players) and not try our hardest to disprove things they say and as a result ruin their ethos so they can't be a viable source in the future (which is what it seems like you're doing).
Come on man, this shouldn't be personal. Like I've said before, the exact thing that companies like shareblue or media matters don't want us to do is work together. When people like yourself come in here and drive wedges between people because you believe large contributors to the investigation to have weird personal ties to small parts of things, you're not helping us.
Let me put it plainly for you and anyone else that may be following this: the people making big contributions to this investigation all have dirt on them, and that can/will be revealed with time. The fact that you focus on these basic little things that don't actually affect the spread of awareness in any negative fashion indicates to people like me that you're distracting us and don't want us to believe what they're saying. You're taking away from the positive impact these people have by focusing too hard on the negative things they could potentially have done. They don't have the same political influence or economic influence that someone such as George Soros, the Clintons, CIA operatives, or other individuals involved with this.
There's a huge difference between the negative impacts that the Clintons, for example, have made, and the ones that you're accusing Webb or Jones of. They are different because Jones and Webb are limited to having participated in CIA shit, as per your theory, and the Clintons, Rothschilds, Royal families, etc. are actively practicing occult worship, ritual child sacrifice, and child trafficking.
It only takes a moron or a shill to equate those two things. Your time will be better spent in other places if your only intention is to focus on the missing tiles in Webb's or Jones' cases, because the missing tiles in the Clinton's, Bush's and Podesta's cases is what brought us here - since they're the big players.
What your missing is V____Z's fundamental philosophy of his relationship to his fellow VOATer's. If translated without concern for the impression it might actually make on the reader, it would look something like this. I am more clever and more moral than you, which means I am more capable of discerning who or what is important. If I believe someone is suspect, they obviously are. If you believe someone is suspect, and I don't, they are not. I am more entitled to voice opinion on any particular matter because this is my forum, because I've built up an impressive amount of submission and comment votes in a very short time. If you believe in me and follow my lead in bringing down Jones and Webb, all will be made right again.
Everything V____Z writes oozes with this attitude. He equates elevating his submission points with elevated legitimacy, and it's an illusion he'll keep playing to for reasons which one is free to speculate.
Since I've never actually stated my opinion yet (at least I hope... this would look foolish if I have, and that I could concede), I'll just say this:
My opinion on different people and different theories has varied a lot during my stay here. I think any rational person should have a similar experience. Hell, maybe I'm just gullible...
But, I'm glad I'm not just rambling to no one here. Thanks.
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V____Z ago
I'm not sure we are so desperate for real leads that we need to post everything Webb says. If he offers proof, or sources besides his own mouth, that's different. He has said questionable things in the past and many here are suspicious of him. Perhaps a separate sub for those who like this drama he is doing, but I don't think it warrants posting here.
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2 down votes for asking for actual sources, whilst another commenter here already points out that Webb got some facts wrong. But we just worship personalities around here, not facts. So downvote away.
NotHereForPizza ago
Figured I'd find you here.
Don't just prove me right, now.
Saw that one coming.
V____Z ago
Saw you coming too. Your comment history shows you have only one purpose here, and is to defend George Webb.
NotHereForPizza ago
I'm not defending Webb.
You never linked me that video that was suppose to prove me wrong, did you? You watched two of his videos, as you've stated, and decided that he's full of shit. You still follow his posts and in every single one you comment and say vaguely how no one can trust him.
I'm not defending George Webb, I'm defending critical thinking.
V____Z ago
I told you already, and this is the last time. Out of the hundreds of Webb videos, no I cannot possibly link to the one I saw, but I have mentioned his promise of a million dollars for anyone tweeting this certain hashtag, and others here remember that too. They often chime in with more and more absurd stuff. I am not alone in my feelings about Webb.
I also caught him in a lie and was not impressed with his response. Because of his reputation and supposed time with the CIA, I figured he was very careful with his words and conveying truth. Therefore he would correct himself in a responsible way if he told an untruth.
Someone here told me that he called David seaman "disinfo" in one of his videos. I have heard all of David's videos, and he has not put out any misstatements. I was surprised to hear that a respected fellow researcher/YouTuber would say such a thing when it was not true. I knew that I hadn't missed something that George caught - I see every one of David's videos and I know the pizzagate story pretty well. David has been spot on and hasn't led us astray even once.
So I asked Webb about this on Twitter, what had David said that was disinfo? That's a pretty serious accusation and webs channel has a pretty big audience, making this statement even more serious.
Webb brushed it off, didn't try to defend himself, just said "oh, I should have said "distraction""
I asked him if he would correct himself in another video, as opposed to a reply to a tweet where only a few will see the correction. He ignored me.
The difference between "disinfo" and "distraction" is ginormous. The lack of retraction agregious. Webb is trying to fuck up our investigation and hand out little tidbits of essentially meaningless information to what he knows is a hungry audience not well versed in psyops.
NotHereForPizza ago
Now give us the proof.
This isn't for me, this is for us.
As a closing, I'll say this: the problem I had with you is that you show up over and over and just say vague shit like "He has said questionable things in the past and many here are suspicious of him." Well, that's great and all, but who exactly is "many" referring to here? Not going to prove that? You've dropped the Gwen thing as far as I can tell, and refuse to revisit that. How about you speak to that too.
There's so many holes in your reasoning, and the fact that I'm trying to pull you away from focusing on individuals while you stare at missing tiles and scream about them is literally just making me think you're here to bring people back around to cpp while you discredit people that are putting in hard work. Whether you want to believe big contributors are slowly leading us to nothing or not, these people have still provivded a helping hand in spreading awareness. If you're here to help these kids, that should be good enough to you, and it shouldnt' matter quite so much what their motives were in the begninng of this investigation. We should be focused on the positive value individuals bring to us that are small players in this game (even if they have loud voices, they're small players) and not try our hardest to disprove things they say and as a result ruin their ethos so they can't be a viable source in the future (which is what it seems like you're doing).
Come on man, this shouldn't be personal. Like I've said before, the exact thing that companies like shareblue or media matters don't want us to do is work together. When people like yourself come in here and drive wedges between people because you believe large contributors to the investigation to have weird personal ties to small parts of things, you're not helping us.
Let me put it plainly for you and anyone else that may be following this: the people making big contributions to this investigation all have dirt on them, and that can/will be revealed with time. The fact that you focus on these basic little things that don't actually affect the spread of awareness in any negative fashion indicates to people like me that you're distracting us and don't want us to believe what they're saying. You're taking away from the positive impact these people have by focusing too hard on the negative things they could potentially have done. They don't have the same political influence or economic influence that someone such as George Soros, the Clintons, CIA operatives, or other individuals involved with this.
There's a huge difference between the negative impacts that the Clintons, for example, have made, and the ones that you're accusing Webb or Jones of. They are different because Jones and Webb are limited to having participated in CIA shit, as per your theory, and the Clintons, Rothschilds, Royal families, etc. are actively practicing occult worship, ritual child sacrifice, and child trafficking.
It only takes a moron or a shill to equate those two things. Your time will be better spent in other places if your only intention is to focus on the missing tiles in Webb's or Jones' cases, because the missing tiles in the Clinton's, Bush's and Podesta's cases is what brought us here - since they're the big players.
rwb ago
What your missing is V____Z's fundamental philosophy of his relationship to his fellow VOATer's. If translated without concern for the impression it might actually make on the reader, it would look something like this. I am more clever and more moral than you, which means I am more capable of discerning who or what is important. If I believe someone is suspect, they obviously are. If you believe someone is suspect, and I don't, they are not. I am more entitled to voice opinion on any particular matter because this is my forum, because I've built up an impressive amount of submission and comment votes in a very short time. If you believe in me and follow my lead in bringing down Jones and Webb, all will be made right again.
Everything V____Z writes oozes with this attitude. He equates elevating his submission points with elevated legitimacy, and it's an illusion he'll keep playing to for reasons which one is free to speculate.
NotHereForPizza ago
Well said.
Since I've never actually stated my opinion yet (at least I hope... this would look foolish if I have, and that I could concede), I'll just say this:
My opinion on different people and different theories has varied a lot during my stay here. I think any rational person should have a similar experience. Hell, maybe I'm just gullible...
But, I'm glad I'm not just rambling to no one here. Thanks.