There are 13,106 subscribers to v/pizzagate, according to Voat's daily count. That means a (maximum) average of 99 newbies subscribed every day after 11/24/16, when Reddit banned #Pizzagate and v/pizzagate more-or-less started up. See [http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-23/reddit-bans-pizzagate-we-dont-want-witchhunts-our-site] and [http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=57666 ].
According to my informal counts, the daily new subscription rate has dropped from around 100 a couple of months ago into the teens and single digits now. (And I note that slowing growth in total subscriptions does not count loss of interest by subscribers who stop caring but don't cancel.)
Since I did not record my numbers religiously every day, moderators Sensitive and Abortion object that I am presently unable to document an arithmetic proof. I have provided the above baseline so that they and everyone can track and evaluate subscriber counts themselves.
The numbers I already know -- and I think you will confirm if you try -- establish that v/pizzagate has been less and less effective in extending PGate consciousness and sentiment beyond itself. Some moderators and others may prefer not to hear that message because PGate awareness must grow dramatically to force official action. Like it or not, the data strongly suggest that non-committed, non-subscribers increasingly hear v/pizzagate as an echo chamber where the faithful preach to each other.
I will give up my point if this post is removed for the third time. I also will give up my hope that v/pizzagate can have more than a pretense of changing real world outcomes.
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sensitive ago
@readstuff, I will leave your post up ;-) - although mod colleagues might decide to delete it per rule 4. Also, I like the sincerity of your submission. IMHO - and if you are right - developments like these are quite normal. Once the novelty has worn off, only the committed people stay or are attracted. We will not give up the hope that this can and will change, though.
EDIT: Another reason - again, if you are right - may be that users on this subverse do not concentrate on the investigation like in the beginning. Many, many posts don't violate the rules, but don't really bring the investigation forward.
samhara ago
What does anyone expect? You don't make progress overnight, especally with something this big.
The group took a big hit with all the negative press; including the false -flag Pizza Dive shooting just for us!
The Mass Media is a gigantic Medusa - turning the minds of the Society to stone. It's a formidable demon;
We're lucky we are here. And Voat doesn't throw off the free thinkers.
In the past that was not always the case.
They study how to control crowds.. We're likely a BETA run for them - on how to discourage, distract, be-little, make small..
"You think ur Hot Shit doncha?" They are trained in breaking the spirit. So keep digging.
kestrel9 ago
I Agree...not in million years would I have thought that the problem was so orchestrated on a global level, that the normalization of pedophilia in America had been going on for so long, and that it has and is supported by so many in power, regardless of party. Or that it is part of so many professions which citizens have long trusted: the medical profession, child related protection and support services, charities (especially those), and so forth...(I say law enforcement but many people have had a longstanding distrust, a topic unto it's own).
But back to point...the long haul requires a lot more then worrying about the sensualistic headlines to validate the cause, or worrying about so called 'spokespeople' (AJ) selling out, his waffling or drifting wherever legal winds blow...
Let's take a moment to foresee the future, given the trajectory of pedo-planned cultural decay, which will happen much quicker without people here on Voat and other groups spreading info via tweets, FB or where ever and to whomever they can.
Consider what we have now in the popular culture: Otherwise quality cable TV series now featuring normalized SM scenes including main characters being urinated on. Soft porn is very common, dropping in gratuitously within movies or immediately following a movie on some pay channels. Increased depictions of sexual violence compared to even 10-15 years ago.
Now...knowing what we here on Voat have learned so far, let me give you an example of what I believe the culture will eventually see if people do not persist in protesting the orchestrated normalization of pedophilia:
Movies showing baby showers where the adults make jokes about the how much fun it will be to have a 'new baby'. Maybe baby shower gifts will include the child sexual prep kits that pedos use.
Media sitcoms depicting adults with child bride/groom, "oh poor Mr. X, just wait until his wife starts her period! (canned laughter).
Kids' Birthday parties with sexualized themes, not just for the adults at the party, but for the kids too.
Eventually those who oppose pedophilia will be labeled pedophobic and it will be a hate crime to express opposition to pedophiles' rights to pursue sexual relationships with your kids and grandkids. It will be child abuse to NOT teach about having sex with adults and other kids, including incest.
This is just a drop in the bucket...if people think they can't handle the frustration of slow days on Voat, consider what it will be like when having a forum like Voat/pizzagate is illegal because it 'harms' children's rights to have legal sexual 'relations' with adults, and perhaps even to have rights as 'sex workers'.