There are 13,106 subscribers to v/pizzagate, according to Voat's daily count. That means a (maximum) average of 99 newbies subscribed every day after 11/24/16, when Reddit banned #Pizzagate and v/pizzagate more-or-less started up. See [http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-23/reddit-bans-pizzagate-we-dont-want-witchhunts-our-site] and [http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=57666 ].
According to my informal counts, the daily new subscription rate has dropped from around 100 a couple of months ago into the teens and single digits now. (And I note that slowing growth in total subscriptions does not count loss of interest by subscribers who stop caring but don't cancel.)
Since I did not record my numbers religiously every day, moderators Sensitive and Abortion object that I am presently unable to document an arithmetic proof. I have provided the above baseline so that they and everyone can track and evaluate subscriber counts themselves.
The numbers I already know -- and I think you will confirm if you try -- establish that v/pizzagate has been less and less effective in extending PGate consciousness and sentiment beyond itself. Some moderators and others may prefer not to hear that message because PGate awareness must grow dramatically to force official action. Like it or not, the data strongly suggest that non-committed, non-subscribers increasingly hear v/pizzagate as an echo chamber where the faithful preach to each other.
I will give up my point if this post is removed for the third time. I also will give up my hope that v/pizzagate can have more than a pretense of changing real world outcomes.
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Laskar ago
Agreed.
This is not surprising when good posts are deleted or buried right away and the so-called mods allow dozens of identical posts which are nonsense to go on and on: such as all the whining about Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich, who are bogus on their best day.
I noticed so may trolls being the first to comment on any posts that I do not see how anyone can take the "moderation" seriously.
There also are some members who have done nothing but downvote people.
freeagent37 ago
Yes this is absolutely happening, I see this is a major flaw that needs to be addressed here and everywhere on the web. It would be nice if people made sure they down-voted the shrills and trolls when they see them, and truly look hard at the paid ones who are pretending to be us. As far as the moderators deleting posts, i dont know what to do about that, but suggest that they leave it all alone, and let the people feel what is important or not, just leave it alone, stop trying to manipulate everything.
haystack ago
A lot of us still can't downvote. The trolls and shills here are still pretty obvious.
kekistocrat ago
Just after the Reddit Exodus, I saw quite a few simply asking for upvoates. It seemed to work -- when others saw it, they would join. Eventually, there would be this long list of simple comments asking for upvoates... it was pretty funny. Honestly, I couldn't say if it was a shill brigade just beginning their glorious semi-careers on voat or what but funny nonetheless. Leastways, have an upvoat on me.
freeagent37 ago
Ya your right they are pretty obvious, would should go on a down-voting mob and seek them out.