So, I've made several posts about this but they've been deleted because they were "too conversational", there weren't enough sources or something. This is obviously very relevant to the pizzagate research, which is now attacked, not only by the MSM but by the Alternative media as well. So, Paul Joseph Watson just came out saying that elite pedophilia has "nothing to do with pizzagate", and that "pizzagate has been debunked". Blatant lies, obviously, as the readers here know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1GQehNcZZw
This continues the pattern of this controlled opposition alternative media narrative, which has been pushed by Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich as well. Here Cernovich claims "his sources told him that pizzagate is a diversion":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxQd2Bitqic
Oh, really? Let's be clear here. If pizzagate is anything, it's organic. It's not contrived, but it was the natural response to the thousands of people looking in to the Podesta emails, the Comet Ping Pong owner and employees instagram accounts, the Comet Ping Pong posters and all the connections we've uncovered. Here's another "alternative media youtuber" Redsilverj speaking out against pizzagate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALIHRLkvKJs
This line "pizzagate is a diversion to make people not focus on proven elite pedophilia cases" is obviously moronic. Obviously people should be more concerned about non-convicted pedophiles on the loose, than already convicted cases. If anything is a distraction and a diversion, it's pointing people to these older cases: "oh, look how many elite pedophiles have been found guilty, this is proven unlike pizzagate". This is a diversion from pedophile rings on the loose. And, the main suspects, let's remember, are the Podesta brothers, the Clintons, Alefantis, but also the millionaire/billionaire Herb Sandler, Obama, Tamera Luzzatto and the others exposed by the investigation, Peter J Mattingly, can't name any others from the top of my head.
The main strategy of the enemy has been to try to define pizzagate as something that it's not: "a pedo ring is run out of the basement of Comet Ping Pong". Of course no one ever claimed this except them, they have been pushing this lie for months now, and people are starting to believe that's what pizzagate is.
http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy/
We of course know it's not that, and we shouldn't allow the enemy to frame and define this question, but keep on bringing back to the forefront the never debunked evidence we have on the suspects. Pizzagate is real, despite the controlled opposition alternative media trying to claim otherwise. They are repeating the false definition of pizzagate, given to the public by the lying MSM, John Podesta and Alefantis themselves.
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V____Z ago
If InfoWars was a legit operation, they would not only be going hard into the discrepancies around Epstein, Penn State, and elsewhere, but also those surrounding Comet - leaving no stone unturned for any reason.
We've been told by Alefantis to stay away from poor lil Comet Pizza and don't touch Pegasus.
Them's marching orders to me: charge harder in those directions, and MUTE any fuckers who say otherwise.
(And may I just say, this whole post is brilliant. Made my day.)
ThePuppetShow ago
PJW was obviously being sarcastic. Why do you think he said... "Right?.. WRONG"? Put the Hater Aid down. LOL
pavezi ago
He basically said: "Pizzagate has been debunked. That means everyone talking about elite pedophilia connections is a conspiracy theorist, right? Wrong." So he wasn't saying: Pizzagate has been debunked, right? Wrong. Just to be honest.
ThePuppetShow ago
Go watch some of his feminism videos. Listen to the way he says "so now pizzagates been debunked".
samhara ago
oh, "Pizzagate is debunked" was a code [wink wink] Too funny.
You have to go by what the man says.
"He's speaking in code to me , and I know what he's really saying" sounds 100% psychotic.
This shows how beliefs can interfere with the interception of reality. We see what we want , emotionally, to see? And if what is there is not what we expect nor believe is really there, we'll twist the evidence 'til it proves what we need it to be.
ThePuppetShow ago
Go watch PJW videos, sarcasm is his MO. I'm not claiming some secret knowledge, that's what he does. Nice ad hominem bullshit you added trying to make me look "psychotic". LOL
samhara ago
Argue if you want that PJW always talks like he's lying. with a smirk? but that doesn't help your weak argument.
You're still less than convincing.
People who have "Gurus" will make any excuses / apologies for their idol's back - stabbing and betrayal.
Yeah, he always sounds like a twit and as though he's lying, but you have to take what he said at face value.
Pointing out that he always sounds like he is lying? Does that cut - it as an excuse for his lack of clarity? [obviously deliberate]
You have to watch him many times and study him to realize he's lying?
No not at all . His connection with "Jones" and the fact he's a Brit will tell you all you need to know. That and about 5 seconds of listening to his condescending babble, if you can bear it.
The fact he is lying is something that only his followers realize?
Though he does lie all the time? So you have to take the opposite of what he is saying, if you are "in the know?"
Is that cult behavior? You talk nonsense then are offended when someone points out your ridiculousness.?.
Sorry for being less than subtle (as you claim your hero is [too subtle to even know for sure what he is saying]}.
ThePuppetShow ago
Lying? It's obvious sarcasm, but you can continue your personal vendetta.
Hero? More ad hominem bullshit? You seem to be a tool.
samhara ago
Back at you.
If he says one thing and means the opposite it's called a lie.
IRONY https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/irony
SARCASM http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sarcasm
If no one but you can tell he means the opposite of what he says,, since you claim to "know him," what does that say?
I point out a fact / contradiction around what you believe - that is different from a personal attack.
More fallacies - I guess you're an expert at Sophistry and Fallicious argumentation, just like those you apparently idolize and defend.
ThePuppetShow ago
No one but me? LOL In case you haven't noticed, more people seem to agree with me than you. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1771814/8679505
I believe he was being sarcastic because I see his videos all the time and I, like many others, recognize his personality. Sarcasm is his MO.
And you wrap it up with more ad hominem bullshit. I don't idolize the guy, I know his personality and what he is popular for by watching his videos. They're hilarious sometimes.
samhara ago
I despise him and Jones. I listened to him once and he was berating his listeners. Disgusting.
"More People" doesnt' mean "correct." That's another fallacy,
A person saying the opposite of the truth is less than sarcasm especially when his Boss just said the same thing on the Eve of the March in D.C. I guess "Jones'" apology to Alephantis was also sarcasm, according to you?
ThePuppetShow ago
Jones' apology was because of a lawsuit. Joe Biggs reported shit that wasn't true. Anyone who has watched any other PJW video other than this one knows you're a tool. Have fun with that.
samhara ago
Where's your evidence of a lawsuit.? "Jones" waved around a sheet of paper?
ThePuppetShow ago
He flat out said he's being threatened with a lawsuit. Where's the evidence there isn't one? You're the one making the accusations that the man is lying. The burdem of proof is on you.
samhara ago
If someone is proved to be a liar, one is supposed to disregard their testimony.
samhara ago
since I've personally witnessed that he is a bold liar, I think his own word is less than good evidence.
You see, you and I, we are working under different assumptions
ThePuppetShow ago
What did he boldly lie about that you personally witnessed? Was it when you believe the man who killed the lawyer was following you around and did nothing? Piss off woth your bullshit stories.
samhara ago
You and you 2 million "Jones" followers :
You are contenanced by your numbers.
You are defended by "What all your group "knows" and believes"
And you are defended by the Mainstream - which is what "Jones" is there for.
You are vindicated because "That 's what we all think. We are millions and you are one"
You are protected because there is safety in numbers. And you all are the protected faction of the alt Media.
Yes, he lied about me, called me a "coward" He lied about William Cooper. He lied about Pizzagate. And he lied about leading the 9/11 movement - being a leader who leads everyone in to a Brick Wall.
He lies about his past.
http://conserpiracy.boards.net/thread/554/alex-jones-replaced
You are hampered by "What is our imagination of what is real?"
Just only what someone, who is as established and accepted as "Jones," pounds into our heads, every day for hours, will you believe.
http://imgur.com/a/BL4Il Lies about his past.
"Jones" lied about 9/11; Lied about "Sandy Hook" Lied about "Boston Firecracker" Meaning that he lied about GLADIO b and c.
https://scoopfeeddotnet.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/infowars-bill-hicks-hoax-factory.jpg?w=700
What fake events does he tell the truth about? That's a better question than "where did he lie?"
ThePuppetShow ago
Seems you have MUCH more invested in Jones than I do, you absolutely hate the man.
If Infowars wasn't leading the 9/11 truth news, who was? How did he lie about 9/11? Are you one of those no plane theory people?
Bill Hicks? Really? LOL
samhara ago
I already gone over that. And I'm starting to get the feeling I'm being trolled.
I should block you but I appreciate some of what I read you say; or at least I think so.
But if this ridiculous questions I've already answered keeps up , which is trolling BTW, I will have to block.
ThePuppetShow ago
Have a nice day.
samhara ago
You are right. I do hate him.