I listened to the AJ show today and heard Cernovich and Sawyer covering pedophilia. I am compelled to listen; but it's all the same. Cernovich really didn't provide much that hasn't been covered in some way by other people; and Sawyer is asking for more donations....
It's right here. Around 18:00 Mike says his sources told him pizzagate was a deep state false flag to get people to look in the wrong place. I'm beginning to wonder if there is any possibility whatsoever of us little guys getting the truth and saving children from the "deep state". I don't know who to trust, but I know the deep state didn't plan to make Podesta and Alefantis 'appear' to be pedophiles years ago planting stuff online all for this. If our world is really THAT controlled and that much of a farce, then fuck this whole thing. I'll just meditate and do yoga and stay offline for the rest of my life, because what is there to research if everything online is a lie? How do we save children when even an almost-president has staff who sacrifce ANYTHING to Moloch, and get away with having a private server as SoS, and serving Saudi Arabia, and getting away with it? Still lauded by all media as some kind of saint?
I see a lot of attempts to pull people away from JA, abramovic etc. People don't care about whose on the throne, it's the power behind the throne. Notice in South Korea the cult members pulling the strings of the ousted politician have not been arrested. So another pol will go into place and the cult members continue infiltration and black mail.
Pay not attention to the pizza man behind the curtain
About the pizzagate vs pedogate controversy. Those of us who have gone down the rabbit hole, know that they are one and the same thing. But most people on the outside thinks pizzagate is this crazy conspiracy about child prostitution being run out of the cellar of Comet Ping Pong.
The Deep State with their cronies in MSM has been very successful at framing it that way and I think it will be difficult for us to turn that narrative around. Imho we will be better off concentrating on the broader term that is pedogate, which our opposition will have a hard time dismissing.
I know that pizzagate is what first broke this scandal wide open - but I think it will be more effective if we all get on board with the pedogate term.
I'm fine with the term, and figured we had always been investigating all related leads, which has meant that v/pizzagate has posts about Epstein, Hampstead, etc.
The difference being that we didn't exclude Comet pizza and related leads. This new push by Cernovich and Alex isn't about the terminology per se, but very much about the content being investigated. Both of them want to look anywhere but at Comet and Alefantis, and I don't hear them talking much about the Podesta emails. So where does that leave us?
If "pedogate" means DO NOT MENTION COMET, then no, i don't want any part of that investigation.
I believe the gunman may have been an obvious false flag after they realized all this got out. They focused on Comet Ping Pong to discredit and minimize public interest.
Alex Jones related a story about how he and an aide were in D.C., at a restaurant, drinking non-alcoholic iced teas. Jones said the tea tasted funny and soon he felt woozy. Then some hot women approached their table and tried to escort them out of the restaurant. Jones and his aide resisted, got away, and went back to their hotel. He said he was knocked out. BOOM. He said it happened three years ago and he's never discussed the incident. But he thinks it was an attempt to give him a roofie (Rohypnol), lure him away, and take him to a place where bad stuff could happen (like he could be posed with people in photos that would then be used against him later). Hearing all this, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY MIKE PENCE DON'T TRAVEL TO D.C. PARTIES WITHOUT THE MISSUS.
Jones is full of these uberdramatic "stories" that can NEVER be independently confirmed or refuted. It's a favorite tactic of his and fits in with the UBERdramatic tone of the (mostly) BS on his show.
You are stating the obvious. Personally I can't stand listening to Alex Jones because of his incessant rambling and overdramatic presentations, but I like some of his guests (if they are allowed to talk without being interrupted constantly), and some of the reporters like Paul Joseph Watson or Owen Shroyer.
Aside from Alex Jones and who he is (and aside from people not trusting Pence), that is exactly why Pence doesn't go anywhere without his wife, I figured that one out immediately. (It's about a whole lot more than him remaining "faithful.")
Gary Hart was taken out by a simple honey-pot maneuver, I'm sure Pence knows this.
I am sure they will put up a clip of it shortly on the Infowars YouTube channel, but Cernovich basically explained how it's all about the Deep State controlling people. How they are drugging people and taking photos of them with naked toddlers. And how The Deep State people are in control of the security clearing process, and are only letting people through the security clearing, if they are able to control them. Meaning they don't let most of the real Trump supporters through.
Alex Jones also mentioned that Paul Joseph Watson will be coming out with a big pedo-related report this week. This will be interesting.
Well it was news to me, and most other people I would suspect, that the Deep State are in control of the security clearing process, and actively trying to only let people with a weak character through, because they can then easier control them. Deep state framing politicians by drugging them and taking photos of them with naked toddlers, was also kind of news to me.
Why are we still referencing info wars guys? C'mon...
Stop using Jones and conservative based sources/figures to push pizza gate. We have already been branded as a conservative alt-right used investigation/witch hunt. ANd jones sold out on us anyway, fuck him.
He didn't reveal his source. Only reason this is interesting at all, is because it is coming from a credible person like Cernovich (imho), otherwise I would just discredit it as rumors or shameless conspiratorial self-promotion.
I also doubt that, but his source for the pedogate information does not have to be the same as for the Susan Rice story, Cernovich has alot of connections.
I might be wrong, but I feel something is brewing here, like as if something big is about to be revealed. Very prominent people with much better sources than most here on voat, are pushing pedogate hard. Cernovich, Paul Joseph Watson, that seal guy, Sawman, and Infowars are also pushing it hard atm. But I have been wrong before so we will see.
That is true - it seems like they all decided to start pushing pedogate super hard immediately after Alex read his lawyer's letter to Alefantis.
The ex Seal guy Craig Sawyer makes me very skeptical. He said his team is all these ex military / intelligence people, but if you go to the website all he did was post their logos. He could just be trying to make money off of the situation. Idk. We'll see.
It's an interesting move for him to follow his scoop on Susan Rice immediately with this. AJ disinfo theories aside, Cernovich gained a lot of good publicity this week so there will be a lot of eyes on this.
If you would have listened to him in the last couple of days, you wouldn't say that. He is going all out on widespread satanic pedophilia, funding law enforcement insiders who want to blow this wide open.
Bullshit, @HollandDrive! They're getting the word out and now, as of this afternoon, all eyes will be focusing on the federal employees who are in charge of administering polygraphs to prospective employees of President Trump's White House.
The only way that this would be good is if both Alex Jones and Cernovich have real ties to real intel and they feel they are completely protected. This is a very dangerous game, it ain't showbiz.
Edit: Didn't hear about the polygraphs, good idea, they should have been doing this from the beginning.
Yup. Cernovich broke that the people administering polygraphs as part of the federal hiring process are, themselves, compromised. Cernovich claims that the polygraphers are refusing to "clear" prospective employees who have clean backgrounds and that there is a scheme (involving roofies and swing clubs and compromising situations) to taint prospective employees and put them in a position that allows them to be extorted (and, thus, manipulated). Big stuff. I apologize for saying, "Bullshit," but to my objective mind, Cernovich is right where he needs to be, on the Alex Jones Show. It's sickening stuff, but it's happening in real time, right before our eyes. The truth must come out. God bless you, @HollandDrive and everyone. God bless our country, and God bless the victims of this sickness. It's just awful.
ProudPatriotGal ago
I listened to the AJ show today and heard Cernovich and Sawyer covering pedophilia. I am compelled to listen; but it's all the same. Cernovich really didn't provide much that hasn't been covered in some way by other people; and Sawyer is asking for more donations....
V____Z ago
It's right here. Around 18:00 Mike says his sources told him pizzagate was a deep state false flag to get people to look in the wrong place. I'm beginning to wonder if there is any possibility whatsoever of us little guys getting the truth and saving children from the "deep state". I don't know who to trust, but I know the deep state didn't plan to make Podesta and Alefantis 'appear' to be pedophiles years ago planting stuff online all for this. If our world is really THAT controlled and that much of a farce, then fuck this whole thing. I'll just meditate and do yoga and stay offline for the rest of my life, because what is there to research if everything online is a lie? How do we save children when even an almost-president has staff who sacrifce ANYTHING to Moloch, and get away with having a private server as SoS, and serving Saudi Arabia, and getting away with it? Still lauded by all media as some kind of saint?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0N1K0ghNTI&t=845s
Takeitslow ago
I see a lot of attempts to pull people away from JA, abramovic etc. People don't care about whose on the throne, it's the power behind the throne. Notice in South Korea the cult members pulling the strings of the ousted politician have not been arrested. So another pol will go into place and the cult members continue infiltration and black mail.
Pay not attention to the pizza man behind the curtain
socrates79 ago
About the pizzagate vs pedogate controversy. Those of us who have gone down the rabbit hole, know that they are one and the same thing. But most people on the outside thinks pizzagate is this crazy conspiracy about child prostitution being run out of the cellar of Comet Ping Pong.
The Deep State with their cronies in MSM has been very successful at framing it that way and I think it will be difficult for us to turn that narrative around. Imho we will be better off concentrating on the broader term that is pedogate, which our opposition will have a hard time dismissing.
I know that pizzagate is what first broke this scandal wide open - but I think it will be more effective if we all get on board with the pedogate term.
V____Z ago
I'm fine with the term, and figured we had always been investigating all related leads, which has meant that v/pizzagate has posts about Epstein, Hampstead, etc.
The difference being that we didn't exclude Comet pizza and related leads. This new push by Cernovich and Alex isn't about the terminology per se, but very much about the content being investigated. Both of them want to look anywhere but at Comet and Alefantis, and I don't hear them talking much about the Podesta emails. So where does that leave us?
If "pedogate" means DO NOT MENTION COMET, then no, i don't want any part of that investigation.
4warned ago
Agree. Good explanation.
AliensInParis ago
I believe the gunman may have been an obvious false flag after they realized all this got out. They focused on Comet Ping Pong to discredit and minimize public interest.
Stormer-chan ago
I expect disappointment but I will be watching.
4warned ago
Cernovich and Jones vowing to expose pedophilia network . Both willing to risk personal and financial attacks. Heros.
HollandDrive ago
How about risking the ultimate price ... death?? That's the price Michael Hastings paid, and Phillip Marshall.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2275258/Phillip-Marshall-Former-airline-pilot-conspiracy-theorist-shot-dead-teenage-children-dog-turning-gun-himself.html
SecondAmendment ago
Alex Jones related a story about how he and an aide were in D.C., at a restaurant, drinking non-alcoholic iced teas. Jones said the tea tasted funny and soon he felt woozy. Then some hot women approached their table and tried to escort them out of the restaurant. Jones and his aide resisted, got away, and went back to their hotel. He said he was knocked out. BOOM. He said it happened three years ago and he's never discussed the incident. But he thinks it was an attempt to give him a roofie (Rohypnol), lure him away, and take him to a place where bad stuff could happen (like he could be posed with people in photos that would then be used against him later). Hearing all this, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY MIKE PENCE DON'T TRAVEL TO D.C. PARTIES WITHOUT THE MISSUS.
equineluvr ago
How long have you been following Jones?
Jones is full of these uberdramatic "stories" that can NEVER be independently confirmed or refuted. It's a favorite tactic of his and fits in with the UBERdramatic tone of the (mostly) BS on his show.
I hope you wake up soon.
socrates79 ago
You are stating the obvious. Personally I can't stand listening to Alex Jones because of his incessant rambling and overdramatic presentations, but I like some of his guests (if they are allowed to talk without being interrupted constantly), and some of the reporters like Paul Joseph Watson or Owen Shroyer.
equineluvr ago
Stating the obvious is necessary for some posters here.
HollandDrive ago
Aside from Alex Jones and who he is (and aside from people not trusting Pence), that is exactly why Pence doesn't go anywhere without his wife, I figured that one out immediately. (It's about a whole lot more than him remaining "faithful.")
Gary Hart was taken out by a simple honey-pot maneuver, I'm sure Pence knows this.
socrates79 ago
I am sure they will put up a clip of it shortly on the Infowars YouTube channel, but Cernovich basically explained how it's all about the Deep State controlling people. How they are drugging people and taking photos of them with naked toddlers. And how The Deep State people are in control of the security clearing process, and are only letting people through the security clearing, if they are able to control them. Meaning they don't let most of the real Trump supporters through.
Alex Jones also mentioned that Paul Joseph Watson will be coming out with a big pedo-related report this week. This will be interesting.
equineluvr ago
There is NOTHING new in what you just posted.
socrates79 ago
Well it was news to me, and most other people I would suspect, that the Deep State are in control of the security clearing process, and actively trying to only let people with a weak character through, because they can then easier control them. Deep state framing politicians by drugging them and taking photos of them with naked toddlers, was also kind of news to me.
djklbd ago
Why are we still referencing info wars guys? C'mon...
Stop using Jones and conservative based sources/figures to push pizza gate. We have already been branded as a conservative alt-right used investigation/witch hunt. ANd jones sold out on us anyway, fuck him.
V____Z ago
I just figured out why Cernovich is on InfoWars - he's saying pizzagate is a false flag, just like Alex says.
djklbd ago
Yep, there ya go. There trying to spin it.
4warned ago
Any liberal leaning journalists talkin about pedogate?
bgrenual ago
I won't have a chance to watch/listen until later but I want to hear his exact words.
Did he say anything about who told him this information?
socrates79 ago
He didn't reveal his source. Only reason this is interesting at all, is because it is coming from a credible person like Cernovich (imho), otherwise I would just discredit it as rumors or shameless conspiratorial self-promotion.
bgrenual ago
Well it's quite obvious the White House leaked Susan Rice to him, and then they were ready to jump on it the next day.
Is the White House about to disclose PedoGate to the world?? I doubt it.
socrates79 ago
I also doubt that, but his source for the pedogate information does not have to be the same as for the Susan Rice story, Cernovich has alot of connections.
I might be wrong, but I feel something is brewing here, like as if something big is about to be revealed. Very prominent people with much better sources than most here on voat, are pushing pedogate hard. Cernovich, Paul Joseph Watson, that seal guy, Sawman, and Infowars are also pushing it hard atm. But I have been wrong before so we will see.
bgrenual ago
That is true - it seems like they all decided to start pushing pedogate super hard immediately after Alex read his lawyer's letter to Alefantis.
The ex Seal guy Craig Sawyer makes me very skeptical. He said his team is all these ex military / intelligence people, but if you go to the website all he did was post their logos. He could just be trying to make money off of the situation. Idk. We'll see.
JimmyLionstar ago
It´s on now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BgSgbguevI
StopPizza2k17 ago
It's an interesting move for him to follow his scoop on Susan Rice immediately with this. AJ disinfo theories aside, Cernovich gained a lot of good publicity this week so there will be a lot of eyes on this.
HollandDrive ago
Worst place for him to go.
Sentastixc ago
Why is everyone hating so much on Alex Jones... he was one of the first and most powerful trailblazers exposing 9/11
GeorgeT ago
It was then, now he did not even expose that botched London terror hoax on 322 - skull&bones masonic hoax. Alex has become Alexis the Infowhore.
Shillbilly ago
There is no 'real proof' to convince the goyim so I agree with him not showing that on his channel
Sentastixc ago
If you would have listened to him in the last couple of days, you wouldn't say that. He is going all out on widespread satanic pedophilia, funding law enforcement insiders who want to blow this wide open.
GeorgeT ago
Why not expose the London attack? For crying out loud they had a helicopter with frewmasonic logo and Big letter G.
SecondAmendment ago
Bullshit, @HollandDrive! They're getting the word out and now, as of this afternoon, all eyes will be focusing on the federal employees who are in charge of administering polygraphs to prospective employees of President Trump's White House.
HollandDrive ago
The only way that this would be good is if both Alex Jones and Cernovich have real ties to real intel and they feel they are completely protected. This is a very dangerous game, it ain't showbiz.
Edit: Didn't hear about the polygraphs, good idea, they should have been doing this from the beginning.
SecondAmendment ago
Yup. Cernovich broke that the people administering polygraphs as part of the federal hiring process are, themselves, compromised. Cernovich claims that the polygraphers are refusing to "clear" prospective employees who have clean backgrounds and that there is a scheme (involving roofies and swing clubs and compromising situations) to taint prospective employees and put them in a position that allows them to be extorted (and, thus, manipulated). Big stuff. I apologize for saying, "Bullshit," but to my objective mind, Cernovich is right where he needs to be, on the Alex Jones Show. It's sickening stuff, but it's happening in real time, right before our eyes. The truth must come out. God bless you, @HollandDrive and everyone. God bless our country, and God bless the victims of this sickness. It's just awful.
HollandDrive ago
Wow, thanks, this is crazy. (No apology necessary.)
This (swing clubs) better not be a red herring. Admittedly, he did say "other compromising situations." I'm not able to watch it, I'll keep abreast.