Glad to see people on here awake about Sandy Hook...realizing it was all a big ruse, and then realizing the extent of organization behind such a thing as creating a fake news story like that one....and starting to see the nature of those behind it. JZ wearing shirts that say "Do as Thou Wilt", Alister Crowley's motto and eating at the white house.....Obama photographed wearing a Crowley 2012 T-shirt....Disney and his "Uplifters" club with their play "the uplift of lucifer"...Saul Alinski's book dedicated to some guy he called "lucifer", Jack Parson's association with Crowley and admission of worshiping some guy he called "lucifer".....really glad to see people catching on and not being deceived by those magicians.
On the subject of Jack Parson's of Jet Propulsion Laboratories......or Disney working so closely with Von Braun in the space program, or Albert Pike the former grandmaster of the masonic society and his book morals and dogma.......everyone might take a look again at some of the things from outer space and see if they can detect any of the deception that those people involved are known to practice.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs You might notice its no more real than Sandy Hook.
This guy here living up in outer space or an actor on a studio set? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xbn--7YBY And so on.....tricky lying bassturds.....but as with many of their lies....lies so big nobody can believe its a lie. Antarctica is not off limits because of the weather.....its off limits for the same reason there's no GPS tracking on aircraft South of the equator.
I did. I've been through all the conspiracies and they all fell like dominoes, no pun intended. In the past 2 months these all got re-filed in my mind under "Evidence the U.S. government is run by psychopaths":
9/11
Chem Trails
Vaccinations (30 vaccines in one shot and the mercury in them point to Big Pharma shaving profit out of human souls)
Sandy Hook
Clinton Foundation gang rape of Haiti
Oklahoma City bombing
Waco
But I gotta be honest. I looked into the Moon Landing and the Flat Earth hoax and wasn't convinced. But I do have an open mind so can you paste in some evidence that convinced you they were hoaxes?
Start with the photos. Photos are not allowed on here, but that last one taken on that 30 million mile journey to Mars....fake....not only fake, but it says "SEX" in the clouds...the same slight of hand that can be seen in Disney's programming. Seems there are no real photos or video from outer space.....its all fake. Sure that doesn't mean the earth is not the ball in those fake photos.
Further investigation shows the history of the ball earth is a tad bit different than professed. The argument was never settled...or settled in the same way as evolution...a theory that was made fact. NASA really is the only concrete proof the earth is the ball in those photos....and everything from them is fake. The media influence has been used heavily to create the belief the earth is a the sphere we are taught. Education most certainly teaches us that. But again, based on what proof? The few experiments done to prove it are not conclusive, the results can also be congruent with a flat plane.
One big kicker is that although well versed (and believed it) about the ball earth and all the science around it.....I had never seen or heard of the previous conception of our earth. Come to find out, it was commonly known among many societies...evidently they all came up with the same conception separately through actual exploration. That conception worked fine to create the clock and the calendar, and to this day can be used to navigate accurately by. Before, when someone said "flat earth" I pictured a ship going over the edge, as was illustrated when teaching us about Columbus and what people at the time thought....which by the way is a lie, that's not what they thought.
So, basically, The only actual proofs I have found that the earth is a ball......are not proofs at all. The proofs from NASA are fraud. There are many errors in ball earth model we are taught, which mean its not even valid. The previous model seems to work without error and more likely accurate. Only two ways to know for sure.....for the public to be allowed into outer space to see it for themselves, or for the public to be allowed freely to Antarctica to see it for themselves. Neither are allowed.
But to name just one anomaly.....the sun being taught as 93 million miles away. That's a long ways, wonder how they measured it? At any rate, how can we determine if it is that far or not? Well, they use the laws of perspective to explain the sun and moon appearing the same size. They say the sun is exactly 400 times larger and 400 times further away. Perspective remains constant....where if you move twice as far from something, it appears half its size, if you get twice as close to something it will appear twice its size. According to science, the if the sun was only 200 times further than the moon, then it would appear twice the size of the moon. Well.....if observed, when the sun rises, its less than half its size as when its directly overhead at noon. Did the sun get 46 million miles closer? Or as it goes to set.......it shrinks about half its size from what was seen at noon. In the previous conception, the sun's is said to be moving over us and this observation matches that exactly. Here is a timelapse video of a flight going away from the sun which shows the sun shrinking more than half its size in appearance.....did the plane fly 93 million miles away from the sun? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pliyY5S11w Because even moving 8,000 miles away from the sun (earth's said diameter)....the sun would only change a tiny, tiny, un perceivable amount in apparent size....if it were 93 million miles away. Not to mention, the heat from it, that slight tilt putting the earth a small distance further away in the winter is said to account for seasons... Oh there's lots more that doesn't add up.
I could really go on. Check flight trackers they show all flights in the air.....but none over the oceans South of the Equator. Examine those flight paths adn they match the previous conception but do not make sense on the ball pictured in Google earth. It seems to me that with GPS they've transformed a flat disk into a sphere, which would not be hard in the top half or the inner part of a circle, but on the bottom continents would get closer to together the further South you went, on a disk they'd get further apart. I know they list distances and there's even on flight (only one, which I have not found confirmation really exists) that flies direct between Southern continents...the other 99.9% of intercontinental flights down there match a flat disk not a globe.
As I said, I could go on. There are many anomalies with the globe model. Many involved with its inception and propagation are those admitted "satanist" guys...dating way back. And that appears to have much to do with the why of it. The message of all that science is "There is no God"......where for guys worshiping that proverbial devil figure from the bible would be motive. That message is obvious...in fact was the title of a recent Hawking Documentary "There is No God"....but that's if you want to believe a paraplegic writes books on astrophysics and speaks fluently by wiggling his cheek. Or Lawrence Krauss can be seen doing his travelling act at universities worldwide....after he explains the universe began with a star exploding, he uses his punchline "Forget Jesus! Thank a star for dying so you could be here!". Bill Nye....not a scientist at all....a performer turned TV scientist, who was seen in person at the opening of a Noah's ark exhibit protesting "its child abuse to teach the bible".
"when the sun rises, its less than half its size as when its directly overhead at noon."
You've got that backwards. The Sun at sunrise/sunset is LARGER that it is at noon. That's because the light from the Sun at sunrise and sunset travels through more atmosphere which acts to magnify the Sun.
Alrighty then, if you say so. I see what I see. As I said, research it yourself. I'm done explaining. Did you look at the video of the plane flying away from it? Yeah its a tough one. They lie good.
"Here is a timelapse video of a flight going away from the sun which shows the sun shrinking more than half its size in appearance"
On a flight from Moscow to New York there are many things effecting the size of the Sun. The plane is going to be flying North then South. At the same time the Sun is rising and falling and light going through more then less atmosphere.
I'd love to do the math to figure out all the variables involved. It would be fun. Don't worry. The Earth isn't flat. However regarding 9/11, THAT is a total fabrication covering up the fact officials in the United States government are straight up demonic psychopaths.
And how is it that NAVY missile guidance can use a 2 inch pencil beam radar to target ships over 60 miles away? Ships that should be over 2,000 feet over the horizon and out of line of sight? Does the radar beam follow the curve? Then bounce off and follow the curve back? Chicago from across lake Michigan? Must be an illusion....but those photos from NASA and the accompanying science are REAL.
Whether the Earth is flat or not has no impact on where Earth is relative to stars. Yes Earth's view of the stars changes as it circles the sun. But were Earth flat or round the star positions don't ever change. That's why an astrolabe still works today.
Ok, so maybe an astrolabe would work with either. But considering the globe model, then we are a planet spinning at over 1,000 mph, while orbiting the sun at over 60,000 mph, the sun with all the planets in tow is orbiting the center of the Milky Way galaxy at over half a million miles per hour and the Milky Way galaxy is hurling through space at over 3 million miles per hour....and you believe this why? No experiment was done to prove any of that....its just a fancy way of explaining what we see mainly in regards to the sun. Much like the notion that vaccines are safe has been proven is put out, but back in reality no test has ever proven that....most if not all tests have proven otherwise. In the case of the earth moving, several experiments were done, and they all returned the result the earth was still and it was the bodies in the sky that were moving. According to the globe model we are taught, each star we see is a sun in its own galaxy sometimes billions of light years away, so many miles that the number can only be handled with scientific notation....incomprehensible numbers to most. But they, like us are said to be moving tens of millions of miles everyday in all sorts of directions....but the North Star has not moved since recording began it stays fixed above the North Pole....and all the other stars rotate perfectly around it.....all of them maintaining perfect parallax with one another...never changing position despite the billsions of miles they've moved. Science explains this away as they are just so far away that we can't detect they move.
You're conflating potential with kinetic energy. Yes at this very moment my potential energy is massive. I'm going like 1,000 mph relative to the Sun. But that would only effect me if the Earth suddenly stopped moving.
It's not your velocity, it's your RELATIVE velocity that matters.
I'm going to sign off here Flat_Truth. I'm teaching you stuff that you should already know.
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Flat_Truth ago
Glad to see people on here awake about Sandy Hook...realizing it was all a big ruse, and then realizing the extent of organization behind such a thing as creating a fake news story like that one....and starting to see the nature of those behind it. JZ wearing shirts that say "Do as Thou Wilt", Alister Crowley's motto and eating at the white house.....Obama photographed wearing a Crowley 2012 T-shirt....Disney and his "Uplifters" club with their play "the uplift of lucifer"...Saul Alinski's book dedicated to some guy he called "lucifer", Jack Parson's association with Crowley and admission of worshiping some guy he called "lucifer".....really glad to see people catching on and not being deceived by those magicians.
On the subject of Jack Parson's of Jet Propulsion Laboratories......or Disney working so closely with Von Braun in the space program, or Albert Pike the former grandmaster of the masonic society and his book morals and dogma.......everyone might take a look again at some of the things from outer space and see if they can detect any of the deception that those people involved are known to practice.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMdhQsHbWTs You might notice its no more real than Sandy Hook.
This guy here living up in outer space or an actor on a studio set? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_xbn--7YBY And so on.....tricky lying bassturds.....but as with many of their lies....lies so big nobody can believe its a lie. Antarctica is not off limits because of the weather.....its off limits for the same reason there's no GPS tracking on aircraft South of the equator.
DarkMath ago
"This guy here living up in outer space or an actor on a studio set?"
Avid media composer is a hell of a drug.
Seriously the Flat Earth conspiracy just like the Moon Landing conspiracy are "fake news" put out to discredit conspiracy theories.
The governments Sandy Hook story is bull shit. The governments Moon Landing isn't.
Deplorable attempt at humor
Flat_Truth ago
Do a little more research on all of that.
DarkMath ago
"Do a little more research on all of that."
I did. I've been through all the conspiracies and they all fell like dominoes, no pun intended. In the past 2 months these all got re-filed in my mind under "Evidence the U.S. government is run by psychopaths":
9/11
Chem Trails
Vaccinations (30 vaccines in one shot and the mercury in them point to Big Pharma shaving profit out of human souls)
Sandy Hook
Clinton Foundation gang rape of Haiti
Oklahoma City bombing
Waco
But I gotta be honest. I looked into the Moon Landing and the Flat Earth hoax and wasn't convinced. But I do have an open mind so can you paste in some evidence that convinced you they were hoaxes?
Thank you
Flat_Truth ago
Start with the photos. Photos are not allowed on here, but that last one taken on that 30 million mile journey to Mars....fake....not only fake, but it says "SEX" in the clouds...the same slight of hand that can be seen in Disney's programming. Seems there are no real photos or video from outer space.....its all fake. Sure that doesn't mean the earth is not the ball in those fake photos.
Further investigation shows the history of the ball earth is a tad bit different than professed. The argument was never settled...or settled in the same way as evolution...a theory that was made fact. NASA really is the only concrete proof the earth is the ball in those photos....and everything from them is fake. The media influence has been used heavily to create the belief the earth is a the sphere we are taught. Education most certainly teaches us that. But again, based on what proof? The few experiments done to prove it are not conclusive, the results can also be congruent with a flat plane.
One big kicker is that although well versed (and believed it) about the ball earth and all the science around it.....I had never seen or heard of the previous conception of our earth. Come to find out, it was commonly known among many societies...evidently they all came up with the same conception separately through actual exploration. That conception worked fine to create the clock and the calendar, and to this day can be used to navigate accurately by. Before, when someone said "flat earth" I pictured a ship going over the edge, as was illustrated when teaching us about Columbus and what people at the time thought....which by the way is a lie, that's not what they thought.
So, basically, The only actual proofs I have found that the earth is a ball......are not proofs at all. The proofs from NASA are fraud. There are many errors in ball earth model we are taught, which mean its not even valid. The previous model seems to work without error and more likely accurate. Only two ways to know for sure.....for the public to be allowed into outer space to see it for themselves, or for the public to be allowed freely to Antarctica to see it for themselves. Neither are allowed.
But to name just one anomaly.....the sun being taught as 93 million miles away. That's a long ways, wonder how they measured it? At any rate, how can we determine if it is that far or not? Well, they use the laws of perspective to explain the sun and moon appearing the same size. They say the sun is exactly 400 times larger and 400 times further away. Perspective remains constant....where if you move twice as far from something, it appears half its size, if you get twice as close to something it will appear twice its size. According to science, the if the sun was only 200 times further than the moon, then it would appear twice the size of the moon. Well.....if observed, when the sun rises, its less than half its size as when its directly overhead at noon. Did the sun get 46 million miles closer? Or as it goes to set.......it shrinks about half its size from what was seen at noon. In the previous conception, the sun's is said to be moving over us and this observation matches that exactly. Here is a timelapse video of a flight going away from the sun which shows the sun shrinking more than half its size in appearance.....did the plane fly 93 million miles away from the sun? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pliyY5S11w Because even moving 8,000 miles away from the sun (earth's said diameter)....the sun would only change a tiny, tiny, un perceivable amount in apparent size....if it were 93 million miles away. Not to mention, the heat from it, that slight tilt putting the earth a small distance further away in the winter is said to account for seasons... Oh there's lots more that doesn't add up.
I could really go on. Check flight trackers they show all flights in the air.....but none over the oceans South of the Equator. Examine those flight paths adn they match the previous conception but do not make sense on the ball pictured in Google earth. It seems to me that with GPS they've transformed a flat disk into a sphere, which would not be hard in the top half or the inner part of a circle, but on the bottom continents would get closer to together the further South you went, on a disk they'd get further apart. I know they list distances and there's even on flight (only one, which I have not found confirmation really exists) that flies direct between Southern continents...the other 99.9% of intercontinental flights down there match a flat disk not a globe.
As I said, I could go on. There are many anomalies with the globe model. Many involved with its inception and propagation are those admitted "satanist" guys...dating way back. And that appears to have much to do with the why of it. The message of all that science is "There is no God"......where for guys worshiping that proverbial devil figure from the bible would be motive. That message is obvious...in fact was the title of a recent Hawking Documentary "There is No God"....but that's if you want to believe a paraplegic writes books on astrophysics and speaks fluently by wiggling his cheek. Or Lawrence Krauss can be seen doing his travelling act at universities worldwide....after he explains the universe began with a star exploding, he uses his punchline "Forget Jesus! Thank a star for dying so you could be here!". Bill Nye....not a scientist at all....a performer turned TV scientist, who was seen in person at the opening of a Noah's ark exhibit protesting "its child abuse to teach the bible".
DarkMath ago
"when the sun rises, its less than half its size as when its directly overhead at noon."
You've got that backwards. The Sun at sunrise/sunset is LARGER that it is at noon. That's because the light from the Sun at sunrise and sunset travels through more atmosphere which acts to magnify the Sun.
Flat_Truth ago
Alrighty then, if you say so. I see what I see. As I said, research it yourself. I'm done explaining. Did you look at the video of the plane flying away from it? Yeah its a tough one. They lie good.
DarkMath ago
"Here is a timelapse video of a flight going away from the sun which shows the sun shrinking more than half its size in appearance"
On a flight from Moscow to New York there are many things effecting the size of the Sun. The plane is going to be flying North then South. At the same time the Sun is rising and falling and light going through more then less atmosphere.
I'd love to do the math to figure out all the variables involved. It would be fun. Don't worry. The Earth isn't flat. However regarding 9/11, THAT is a total fabrication covering up the fact officials in the United States government are straight up demonic psychopaths.
Flat_Truth ago
And how is it that NAVY missile guidance can use a 2 inch pencil beam radar to target ships over 60 miles away? Ships that should be over 2,000 feet over the horizon and out of line of sight? Does the radar beam follow the curve? Then bounce off and follow the curve back? Chicago from across lake Michigan? Must be an illusion....but those photos from NASA and the accompanying science are REAL.
DarkMath ago
"Does the radar beam follow the curve?"
Nope. Something as tall as a Navy ship can see much farther than the horizon you and I see. As altitude increase so does the distance to the horizon.
Flat_Truth ago
Stars too, match up exactly with the old model....an astrolabe still works to this day.
DarkMath ago
"..an astrolabe still works to this day."
Whether the Earth is flat or not has no impact on where Earth is relative to stars. Yes Earth's view of the stars changes as it circles the sun. But were Earth flat or round the star positions don't ever change. That's why an astrolabe still works today.
Flat_Truth ago
Ok, so maybe an astrolabe would work with either. But considering the globe model, then we are a planet spinning at over 1,000 mph, while orbiting the sun at over 60,000 mph, the sun with all the planets in tow is orbiting the center of the Milky Way galaxy at over half a million miles per hour and the Milky Way galaxy is hurling through space at over 3 million miles per hour....and you believe this why? No experiment was done to prove any of that....its just a fancy way of explaining what we see mainly in regards to the sun. Much like the notion that vaccines are safe has been proven is put out, but back in reality no test has ever proven that....most if not all tests have proven otherwise. In the case of the earth moving, several experiments were done, and they all returned the result the earth was still and it was the bodies in the sky that were moving. According to the globe model we are taught, each star we see is a sun in its own galaxy sometimes billions of light years away, so many miles that the number can only be handled with scientific notation....incomprehensible numbers to most. But they, like us are said to be moving tens of millions of miles everyday in all sorts of directions....but the North Star has not moved since recording began it stays fixed above the North Pole....and all the other stars rotate perfectly around it.....all of them maintaining perfect parallax with one another...never changing position despite the billsions of miles they've moved. Science explains this away as they are just so far away that we can't detect they move.
DarkMath ago
"and you believe this why?"
You're conflating potential with kinetic energy. Yes at this very moment my potential energy is massive. I'm going like 1,000 mph relative to the Sun. But that would only effect me if the Earth suddenly stopped moving.
It's not your velocity, it's your RELATIVE velocity that matters.
I'm going to sign off here Flat_Truth. I'm teaching you stuff that you should already know.