i read this article today which i think everybody here should really read .
its written by Joel van der Reijden -- Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics (ISGP)
and this guy truelly knows his shit !
excerpt
On March 19, 2016 hackers manage to fool then Clinton campaign manager John Podesta into changing the password of his gmail account through a basic phishing email. By July it starts raining Podesta emails through Wikileaks, resulting in a number of minor scandals: ties of Clinton to Wall Street and a variety of journalists, shenanigans of the already controversial Clinton Foundation, and concrete evidence that Clinton and the Democratic Party elite purposely undermined Bernie Sanders, Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination. [2] In other words, whoever was behind the hacking did a lot of good - and maybe should receive a Pulitzer Prize.
In an interesting development, the first few days of November 2016 - amidst continued releases of thousands upon thousands of Podesta emails by Wikileaks - saw the emergence of "Pizzagate" in the alternative media: the claim that words as "pizza" and "pasta" in the Podesta emails were used as code words to conceal trafficking and sexual abuse of children. Before we look at any origins or motives behind these claims, let's first see what exactly the evidence entails.
When we look at a number of cited Podesta emails in prominent Pizzagate video clips - such as PizzaGate Definitive Factcheck: Oh My God on the YouTube channel of David Seaman's, a former "liberal CIA" Huffington Post contributor - at first glance one indeed is tempted to think that they reveal a kind of code language surrounding the terms "pizza" and "pasta". However, being extensively familiar with the treacherous nature of disinformation, I checked all the citations in their full context on Wikileaks. As it turns out, all of them have very mundane explanations.
please read the whole article here.
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Vigilia_Procuratio ago
The article is quite clear in calling all Pizzagate researchers trolls and the investigation itself a hoax. It's a blatant hit piece.
It debunks nothing. And to call the Snopes response an investigative article is ridiculous as that also debunks absolutely nothing. “None of it is true” is not “debunking”.
To compare Pizzagate to theories such as a cruise missile hitting the Pentagon is pathetic. We all know it wasn't a plane. We all know that whatever really happened at Sandy Hook was covered up. We all know that one of the bombs at the Boston Marathon was a sound bomb and that a certain guy didn't have any legs anyway, he lost them in Afghanistan.
It mentions troll or trolling 16 times, and propagandist 6 times. It reads like something from a 20 year old rookie at WaPo about a subject which the experienced journalists wouldn't touch with a bargepole.
And archived... https://archive.fo/Me5Rq
fremar ago
you havent read the article entirely , you refuse to advance pizzagate , for what it is now its just a rehash of the same "leads" & "evidences". theres no progress , is this what your goal is , no progress really ?
Vigilia_Procuratio ago
I certainly did read the entire article. As I said, at best it offers possible explanations for some of the anomalies. It does not debunk anything but comes across as matter of fact, it is very aggressive in its tone by constantly labelling legitimate researchers as trolls or propagandists. Actually, that is propaganda.
fremar ago
read my post , i just urged everyone intrested in pizzagate to checkout teh article & think about what you think you'll achieve with your links & leads found on socialmedia sites that get endlessly repeated & posted over & over while meanwhile NOTHING is happening. speaking about agressive , checkout 98% of the responses i get on this post , THATS PRETTY AGRESSIVE ? why is that ?
Vigilia_Procuratio ago
I'm not being aggressive, I'm just saying that the article is full of shit.
fremar ago
look , an email is most of the time part of a longer conversation , so if you check the complete emails from podesta, its possible you get another context like for example the mentioning of walnut sauce , when you look it up its a very popular sauce in italian dishes , so it is possible that walnutsauce is really just that. podesta is italian not ? for sure you haven't checked the rest of the website , probbably to bussy to defend the energy you have put into pg , but you really should check the rest of the website & see for youself the information , then ask yourself why would the same author post disinfo on his website ? so he can discredit the other 99% of his website ? does that seem a logical thing to do if you have put so much effort in a website regarding corruption & humantrafficking ?
if you want to make a real change start being honest , you are aggressive (with no reason !).