i read this article today which i think everybody here should really read .
its written by Joel van der Reijden -- Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics (ISGP)
and this guy truelly knows his shit !
excerpt
On March 19, 2016 hackers manage to fool then Clinton campaign manager John Podesta into changing the password of his gmail account through a basic phishing email. By July it starts raining Podesta emails through Wikileaks, resulting in a number of minor scandals: ties of Clinton to Wall Street and a variety of journalists, shenanigans of the already controversial Clinton Foundation, and concrete evidence that Clinton and the Democratic Party elite purposely undermined Bernie Sanders, Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination. [2] In other words, whoever was behind the hacking did a lot of good - and maybe should receive a Pulitzer Prize.
In an interesting development, the first few days of November 2016 - amidst continued releases of thousands upon thousands of Podesta emails by Wikileaks - saw the emergence of "Pizzagate" in the alternative media: the claim that words as "pizza" and "pasta" in the Podesta emails were used as code words to conceal trafficking and sexual abuse of children. Before we look at any origins or motives behind these claims, let's first see what exactly the evidence entails.
When we look at a number of cited Podesta emails in prominent Pizzagate video clips - such as PizzaGate Definitive Factcheck: Oh My God on the YouTube channel of David Seaman's, a former "liberal CIA" Huffington Post contributor - at first glance one indeed is tempted to think that they reveal a kind of code language surrounding the terms "pizza" and "pasta". However, being extensively familiar with the treacherous nature of disinformation, I checked all the citations in their full context on Wikileaks. As it turns out, all of them have very mundane explanations.
please read the whole article here.
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newworldahead ago
This is it! Pizzagate is officially debunked, folks. /sarc
fremar ago
pizzagate seems to be allot more then just childabuse, pizza, pasta , etc. read the other comments i wrote & use your brain , ask yourself why ?
newworldahead ago
Sorry I don't understand where you are getting at with this. Would you care to elaborate?
fremar ago
what do you mean ? please read the other comments i made to other posters i feel like a typingmachine if you still have no answer just ask
newworldahead ago
Ehm no I won't go out of my way to read some random comments (which ones, you don't even tell me) just to try to understand what the hell do you mean with this post and your previous comment.
fremar ago
just read the coments that i (fremar) made , newworldahead ( nwo??)
newworldahead ago
You wrote a comment. I answer that I don't understand what you mean. THen you ask me to read other comments to find my answer? That some weird logic.
You wrote:
I don't understand what you mean by this in relation to the "debunking" article you posted. Why do I have to read other comments to understand what you mean?
Oh and nice try associating me with the nwo... a true detective.
fremar ago
i was trying to make a joke , sorry for that, newworldahead. it would be faster if you would read the other comments i made in teh whole post so i dont have to repeat myself over & over. i mean that you have to keep in mind pg is also a psyop.
newworldahead ago
No hard feelings. So you think that the Podesta emails could be a psyop? Wow, sorry but that just does not make any sense to me. The emails were leaked and they are real. They are the entry point to Pizzagate. WIthout the emails, "pizzagate" doesn't exist and we're not here today on this forum.
Without the emails, it's business as usual... and probably HC is the president of the US.
fremar ago
no i think pizazgate as a whole is being used as a psyop. before pizzagate there was allready worldwide spread humantrafficking & satanism etc. the emails are part of communication, communication gets intercepted 24/7 for years. (ask snowden) so "they" knew the whole time. why wait to "leak" these emails? how is it possible a website like wikileaks can just "leak" all this "secret" information & every time they do its a complete surprise to "them" (government) ah you say because the internet , we have a right for infoprmation ! yeah true that ! how about your right for free electricity ? or clean air ? how about clean water? etc .... you see ? so many questions start popping up.
newworldahead ago
I really respect your point of view but I don't agree with what you're saying at all. What you're speaking of is what we could call 5D chess...
Things are not so elaborated. We must remain grounded and down to earth and not get too carried away. If you just observe what is going on, you know that "they" are not happy about that Pizzagate thing and that they are trying to suppress it. They would not create an elaborated plot, incriminating themselves in the process, just to frame us in their next few moves. It would be suicide for them. You can see for yourself, more and more people are getting educated about the real problem that is child sex trafficking
The evil masterminds are obvious in their tactics. They don't play 5D chess, it's too risky.
fremar ago
you're saying yes & no at the same time. youre right that we have to stay grounded but honestly , countless posts all the same stuff , over and over all the same "opinions" & "findings" & none of these give answers to obvious questions that pop up . and the questions that follow are really important questions. trafficking has happened for very very long time , worldwide , yet the narrative here is to keep it local , just washington dc ? really ?? why is this ? doesn't that look and feel like an agenda ? we need to take this thing way further and take this worldwide to the streets if you want to see real change. if you want keep it local (usa onlyà then who benefits ??? who ?? yess thats right , just trump ( you know that rich fucker that likes money just like the others ) so we are not going to be framed but the attention that we give to this is going to be used for their benefit with in teh end no real change. no new world. just the same old same old.
newworldahead ago
You're right that it's not just about DC, no one said that though. I've been here since december and people have discussed similar scandals happening outside the USA and DC (Hampstead coverup, Norway pedophile ring, Dutroux, Jimmy Saville, etc). I'm sure most know here that these cases are all connected somehow.
fremar ago
yes very nice that you are pretty sure , but the ones that maintain the narrative on this platform ( mods /admins) do not want progress. they do not participate in thinking , asking questions ,which is very suspect i think.