i read this article today which i think everybody here should really read .
its written by Joel van der Reijden -- Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics (ISGP)
and this guy truelly knows his shit !
excerpt
On March 19, 2016 hackers manage to fool then Clinton campaign manager John Podesta into changing the password of his gmail account through a basic phishing email. By July it starts raining Podesta emails through Wikileaks, resulting in a number of minor scandals: ties of Clinton to Wall Street and a variety of journalists, shenanigans of the already controversial Clinton Foundation, and concrete evidence that Clinton and the Democratic Party elite purposely undermined Bernie Sanders, Clinton's chief rival for the Democratic nomination. [2] In other words, whoever was behind the hacking did a lot of good - and maybe should receive a Pulitzer Prize.
In an interesting development, the first few days of November 2016 - amidst continued releases of thousands upon thousands of Podesta emails by Wikileaks - saw the emergence of "Pizzagate" in the alternative media: the claim that words as "pizza" and "pasta" in the Podesta emails were used as code words to conceal trafficking and sexual abuse of children. Before we look at any origins or motives behind these claims, let's first see what exactly the evidence entails.
When we look at a number of cited Podesta emails in prominent Pizzagate video clips - such as PizzaGate Definitive Factcheck: Oh My God on the YouTube channel of David Seaman's, a former "liberal CIA" Huffington Post contributor - at first glance one indeed is tempted to think that they reveal a kind of code language surrounding the terms "pizza" and "pasta". However, being extensively familiar with the treacherous nature of disinformation, I checked all the citations in their full context on Wikileaks. As it turns out, all of them have very mundane explanations.
please read the whole article here.
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1NationUnderAGroove ago
Pedo enabler post - freemar is a massive shill
Don't waste your time reading the post in the link - MSM PIZZAGATE debunk
SoSpricyHotDog ago
We should look at all angles, including those that could go against our own narrative/assumptions.
Otherwise, we are guilty of the same ridiculous behavior that our media is guilty of.
newworldahead ago
Revisiting the emails: Yes Screaming "debunked!" without evidence: No
For something to be debunked you must have proof, not just speculate.
dougG ago
But isn't that what were all doing. Screaming "crime" without evidence.
1NationUnderAGroove ago
I'm sure a 1/3 of the evidence gathered here on JA would be considered 'hard proof' prosecuting the 'run of the mill trailer park kiddy fiddler' who doesn't have the MSM and worldwide government officials in their pocket
newworldahead ago
Now you're shilling, aren't you? Do you think I'd be wasting my time here if we had no evidence? Evidence is exactly what brought me here. No hard proof yet, but solid circumstantial evidence.
Podesta emails, Alefantis & co instagrams, Laura Silsby connection, McCann case (e-fits), pedo symbols everywhere ... what more do you need?
dougG ago
I need a lot more. I need hard proof. I'm not shilling, I'm just trying to understand your logic. I mean, how can those emails ever be debunked to the communities liking. It would be impossible. The emails are not evidence because they are pure speculation, and you want hard evidence to debunk, drum roll.........pure speculation.
newworldahead ago
What I'm saying is that until you can provide real counter evidence to debunk the emails, these emails are not going anywhere. They will remain in the pile of circumstantial evidence we have collected for pizzagate. I'm not saying the emails are 100% proof that these people are guilty, I'm saying they are suspicious and will remain suspicious until a proper innocent explanation is given by those who sent these emails.
We're all hoping to find the smoking gun of all smoking guns... the hard evidence that will change everything. But so far we only have circumstantial evidence. We have to keep digging since law enforcement doesn't want to do their job and do a proper investigation. That's where we're at today.
fremar ago
thats really stupid to state 1nationunderagroove.
1NationUnderAGroove ago
...not really
You're just spreading MSM propaganda.. I read the whole article in the link and it's nothing more than the MSM narrative
The explanations to the podesta emails are nothing more than unsubstantial opinions
The 'explanations' here on pizzagate are backed with sourced evidence and not fueled by a personal agenda, more an agenda of actually making a positive change and helping the innocent in this fucked up world
Maybe the Washington Post/CNN would be interested in your link for reference
fremar ago
so all this typing and still no answers : as to why the oh so powerful government needs help from the poor people they have been sucking dry since for ever ??? what is your problem ? why do you & allot of others refuse to see that there has to be way way way more about this then just the trafficking ?
1NationUnderAGroove ago
Honestly you just keep digging a deeper hole for yourself.. troll
fremar ago
i dont think you know what honest is
dougG ago
What sourced evidence backs any of the podesta emails?
fremar ago
you only have wikileaks. & then some "connections" "leads " "evidences" in the form of comments posted on social media sites. all are digital / online. no hardcore evidence , paper or something ....
AssFaceSandwich2 ago
Short for freemason retard.
fremar ago
just as intelligent as your username :)
AssFaceSandwich2 ago
You can call me Jack
fremar ago
i will call you by your username assfucksandwich2, if you dont mind, it just has a nice ring to it.
AssFaceSandwich2 ago
Thanks, James.
fremar ago
lol actually fremar is my name.