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Gothamgirl ago

Fake news isn't going to save you from your worldwide problems, Skippy.

AreWeSure ago

US Intelligence agencies have validated part of the Russian dossier, it was just revealed by the BBC. They independently confirmed that a Russian diplomat who suddenly called back to Russia was actually a spy. Dossier misspelled his name though.

Also they revealed something that had confused me. Russia stole the voter roles in key states. They didn't messing with voting machines, but they stole the names of voters.

I wondered why.......they used them for microtargeting via Facebook ads and other means. If you could turn off certain voters, keep them from voting that is a huge advantage. It's also a very good description of what happened in Michigan and Pennsylvania. Russia could not have done this part by themselves. This would require coordination.

Russia Problem grows less fake every day.

Enjoy the last few months of Trump Presidency.

MolochHunter ago

Lol 5 months of this Russian narrative and there is still nothing more credible than 'this guy [with vested interests] claims blah blah'

C'mon, AreWeSure, you usually know how to differentiate between EVIDENCE and 'claims of evidence' At least, that's the rule you apply to evidence in this investigation. Pull ur skirt down a lil, AreWeSure, your slip is showing

AreWeSure ago

Um, one of the most powerful officials in Washington had to resign because he lied about his meetings with Russians, shortest term of an NSA ever. We now know as he was receiving security briefings, he was a paid agent of a foreign government and he did not declare that. Proven.

The attorney general said under oath he never met with the Russians. This was not true. Then he said he met with them twice. Proven. There's now pictures of a third possible meeting.

Trump's campaign manager has been revealed to purchase millions in NYC real estate in cash through she'll companies and then take giant mortgages on them in a classic money laundering move. Proven

Trump's long term friend, Roger Stone, his David Brock on the campaign this year, admitted that he communicated with the hacker identified by the FBI as a cutout for the hacking group associated with Russian intelligence that the FBI I said interfered with the presidential election to help one side. Proven.

The FBi has now publically said, it is investigating the Trump campaign on possible charges of working with Russia to steal the election. This unprecedented. Proven.

That's off the top of my head. There's a lot of evidence. Andvwe know not all of it is public yet.

MolochHunter ago

there is no evidence of Flynn being paid whatsoever. unproven John Podesta took $35k from Russia, proven. Tony Podesta $150k, proven. Hillary sold 25% of USA uranium output to Russia - proven

still no evidence of russia hacking the election. all smoke and mirrors. Hillary, however - used voting machines to steal 13 delegates off Sanders. Proven, and Seth Rich died for exposing it.

Aint nothing on Trump that the Dems aren't already as as bad or worse when it comes to Russia

Are_we_sure ago

Flynn has admitted this. He took about $500,000 to lobby on behalf of a company tied to the Turkish government in 2016. He was thus required to register as a foreign agent under the Foreign Agents Registration Act He did not file as a foreign agent until March 7th. AFTER he was already fired as NSA. Also the White House notified Congress that Flynn over $70,000 plus luxury hotels stays and trip expenses for both him and his son from Russia companies including the Kremlin's TV station from December 2015. These were not lobbying jobs and didn't require him to register under FARA, however, payments from a foreign government are illegal under the Constitution for retired military officers. The DOD interprets the Emoulements Clause this way

the Emoluments Clause prohibits receipt of consulting fees, gifts, travel, expenses, honoraria, or salary by all retired military personnel, officer and enlisted, Regular and Reserve, from a foreign government unless Congressional consent is first obtained.

I didn't say the Russians directly hacked the election results, that's a strawman argument. I said interfered and there's lots of evidence they did. And not just against Hillary. In addition to the DNC and Podesta, they hacked the Democratic Congressional Campaign Comittee and used the information to target about a dozen of the most competitive congressional races in Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois, New Mexico and North Carolina . The same Russian Intel cutout that Roger Stone worked with would send packages of hacked to documents to local reporters and bloggers. Kudos to Representative Ryan Costello of Pennsylvania who refused to use this material because it came from a foreign source.

I like you how make a claim of no evidence and lob such nonsense bombs as these conspiracy theories. Hillary, however - used voting machines to steal 13 delegates off Sanders. Proven, and Seth Rich died for exposing it.

That's not even the tinfoil hat community's agreed upon Seth Rich Conspiracy theory! That's like a whole different theory! You're one of the 9/11 truth guys who believe there were no planes used at all, right? Tell the truth.

I would love to hear your evidence for this. Where were these 12 delegates stolen? Why would Seth Rich know about them? What made these 12 delegates so important when she beat him by 359? Would the outcome be any different if she only beat him by 300?

MolochHunter ago

Right. So by 'Interfered' you mean 'influenced'. Just like the lobbying money pouring into DC from eeeeevery other country and corporation is sent with the specific purpose of influencing political outcomes in their favour.

That's why the Russian narrative is so disingenuous. You want everyone to believe Russian influence somehow invalidates the election, but the influence $ from everyone else - and to the Podestas - we can just whislte dixie on.

So lets say we ditch the Trump administration because Russia. We cant appoint Democrats either because Russia. Where does that leave you?