I made some remarks in another thread, but decided to re-post essentially the same here.
Nobody ever disputes the fact that Jones has talked about what elites do with children in their spare time, not a little bit, nor passionately, but in fact rabidly, and more than any other media personality, living or dead, although David Icke would give him a run for the money. The reason this truth is never challenged is because it is inarguable by anyone who has ever listened to Jones with any regularity, especially in the past. Those that do not listen to the show or instead watch compilations made by others continue to get their talking points from people hell bent on destroying him, who produced all the Jones is gatekeeper/cointelpro/limited hangout/CIA/mossad asset material everyone falls for. Jones is the virtual Godfather of broadcasting the message that there is a global epidemic of child sex trafficking and slavery.
In less than 60 seconds, I produced the following list of stories or videos from Infowars regarding Jones's Herculean efforts to bring this news to a broader audience in the last two decades:
Were I to make a comprehensive list, I would need the equivalent of probably 10 full VOAT pages and perhaps seven hours of spare time to produce it.
Anyone claiming Jones is a gatekeeper for people who commit unspeakable crimes against children is dead wrong. There are lots of reasons why someone might not like Jones, and I get it because Jones has certainly made mistakes in the past, but to make heinous claims that he is part of a coverup is an outrage.
If inclined, I could spend ten more minutes and produce unassailable proof that Jones was set up by Alefantis in such a way as to give Jones no alternative than to retract, and show that Alefantis had admissible evidence against Jones that he did not have on any other well known personality talking about PG, and explain why Jones was the perfect foil or proxy to attack on behalf of you, me, DS, and just about every other person discussing PG, but I am not going to waste my time because the worst of you cowards will deny it to the death anyway.
The evidence against those claiming Jones has done little for the child sex trafficking/slavery story, or worse, claim he's working those very entities so engaged, is devastating, and readily available to anyone who can read or use google.
This is awesome. I saw a comment on another post where you directed people to come read this. You're right about this. I really don't think he was trying to put the apology out to take away from the protest. I just don't believe he would do that. He hates these satanic child molesters.
You mean releasing his retraction somewhat after but perhaps before the second of two rallies that virtually half of PG people railed against and said would be insignificant or detrimental to the cause in thread after thread? Why don't you read some of the articles I linked and tell us exactly where Jones is incorrect. Actually, don't bother. You and your brethren never have any interest in the truth, so there's no likelihood this status will change even if you mustered the courage to do so. Here's an even better idea. Go start an alternative media platform, and spend twenty years showing Alex Jones how to really report on child sex trafficking/slavery.
You mean the half that are CFR/Brock/Alefantis trolls? The only comments I saw against the PG Rally was the fact that someone made a 2nd one (the first one) after the one on the 25th was already planned. Talk about diversion tactics. The rally on the 25th was targeted since it's inception and it's obvious to anyone that they pulled out all of the stops to try to stop it.
I'm interested in the truth and justice. That's why I was at the rally.
It doesn't change the fact that you are attributing great significance to the timing of the retraction, which is erroneous for many reasons including the fact that while the rallies were well intentioned (I defended you and other attendees ferociously in threads attacking the rally) they are of relatively minor importance because they are not going to directly lead to speedier arrests. The idea Jones timed his retraction to thwart you is preposterous.
Why are you and other people of like mind unwilling or unable to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room? The 800 pound gorilla is Alex Jones's unparalleled twenty-two year effort to tell the world that it's run by satanic child sex traffickers/torturers. Hell, I'd be willing to give serious and open consideration to the theories of any person making negative claims about Jones if they were willing to acknowledge the undeniable truth that Jones has devoted more broadcasting time to covering satanic child sex trafficking/torture than anyone living or dead, except perhaps David Icke. Admit it, and I assure you I will give fullest consideration to any other complaints.
I watch him all the time. His retraction on James Alefantis was insulting and tragic.There are a few possible explanations but amongst them is not "James Alefantis is probably innocent" because that is untrue.
hardly insulting unless you are referring to pedophile pimp Alefantis or child rapist Podesta insulting our intelligence. Since you are a regular listener then you already know that Google denied InfoWars access to an anticipated 4-5Million in advertisement fees. Google's attack coupled with an obvious Alefantis SLAPP lawsuit would greatly hinder InfoWars move into the DC office.
From a business standpoint, Jones did the absolute right thing. Cut liability of child traffiker Alefantis and press forward with DC office.
Here's the thing; AJ runs a business. He is liable for what he says. Slander cases in the US proceed pretty quickly because of case backlogs. They can be determined in a few of hearings. If they show a video of AJ making allegations, AJ will have to provide proof of allegations. If he doesn't have it they will rule in plaintiff's favor. He stood to lose a lot of money. So he is focusing on other areas while others can take up the fight against CPP. Pizzagate is a mass effort. So AJ is out when it comes to CPP, no big deal. Others are moving forward with investigation.
No, James Alefantis has to prove Alex Jones made the allegations maliciously (knowing that they were false or with reckless disregard for the truth). Yes Alex could lose the lawsuit given the legal climate but technically, no, the burden does not fall on the defendant to prove the allegations were true. The burden is always on the plaintiff to prove every element of his claim. However nearly everything Alex Jones said about James Alefantis was true, up until the retraction, the first false statement Alex Jones has probably ever made in his life on his show.
Yesterday he talked about it extensively. I feel like you could tell he was being dishonest about his retraction. He has a certain ego with his viewers, and he comes off as insecure when he knows he's being a letdown. I've seen it before, happens sometimes when you run a three hour daily broadcast, especially when the corporate world is cutting your ability to externally advertise and generate new funds.
yeah I agree with you, he is being forced to say it and it makes him nervous. Part of why it is so disappointing is that he has to keep repeating it. Much of what he is talking about is stuff he's reported on before, and up until now, he was kind of ignoring pizzagate, now he is suddenly trying to go after pedophiles while simultaneously pretending there is no link here to James Alefantis. That's going to prove to be a lot more difficult than he thinks. I hope James gets arrested soon because watching Alex is becoming difficult for me and I loved the show prior to that.
I agreed with everything you said until "first false statement." AJ has dropped some wild theories. Some of them were years ahead of the curve. But other times he'll say you can search for something and it's not there. Whenever I listen to him I find myself frantically searching what he says on the Internet. It often checks out. But sometimes he's out there on his own. I think he's got so many facts, tips and articles rattling around in his head he conflates things.
He single handily tried to destroy the credibility of the march that weekend. He's no better than those baby lovers. I don't believe for 1sec he was going to get sued, he bowed to almighty dollar.
Well, he wouldn't have a show and then what? The monetary system and secular rule of law is the system we as a species have CHOSEN to live by. We may have made up the game but its a pretty fun game even if you have to play by the rules. If you have a better system, I am all ears.
That's not true he wouldn't have a show. Do some research about the vietnam era cointelpro. They were CIA that infiltrated and led groups that were anti war to control the direction of the group and destroy it from within. That's exactly why I think he has such a big show, he has unseen hands supporting him along the way.
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cakeoflightylight ago
Meh saving face Alex Jones
rwb ago
I made some remarks in another thread, but decided to re-post essentially the same here.
Nobody ever disputes the fact that Jones has talked about what elites do with children in their spare time, not a little bit, nor passionately, but in fact rabidly, and more than any other media personality, living or dead, although David Icke would give him a run for the money. The reason this truth is never challenged is because it is inarguable by anyone who has ever listened to Jones with any regularity, especially in the past. Those that do not listen to the show or instead watch compilations made by others continue to get their talking points from people hell bent on destroying him, who produced all the Jones is gatekeeper/cointelpro/limited hangout/CIA/mossad asset material everyone falls for. Jones is the virtual Godfather of broadcasting the message that there is a global epidemic of child sex trafficking and slavery.
In less than 60 seconds, I produced the following list of stories or videos from Infowars regarding Jones's Herculean efforts to bring this news to a broader audience in the last two decades:
https://www.infowars.com/globalists-like-to-rape-women-as-well-as-nations/
https://www.infowars.com/the-eu-a-powerhouse-pedophile-hierarchy/
http://www.prisonplanet.com/040304_dutroux_worked_on_orders.html
https://www.infowars.com/belgian-aristocratic-pedophile-ring-exposed/
https://www.infowars.com/fbi-raid-reveals-govt-knee-deep-in-child-sex-trafficking/
https://www.infowars.com/sex-trafficking-exposed-at-the-super-bowl/
https://www.infowars.com/the-lefts-push-for-adult-child-sex/
https://www.infowars.com/vatican-child-sex-abuse-linked-to-satanism/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdU0FZFEjvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSzWNbZA5YA
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/010106sexslavescandal.htm
Were I to make a comprehensive list, I would need the equivalent of probably 10 full VOAT pages and perhaps seven hours of spare time to produce it.
Anyone claiming Jones is a gatekeeper for people who commit unspeakable crimes against children is dead wrong. There are lots of reasons why someone might not like Jones, and I get it because Jones has certainly made mistakes in the past, but to make heinous claims that he is part of a coverup is an outrage.
If inclined, I could spend ten more minutes and produce unassailable proof that Jones was set up by Alefantis in such a way as to give Jones no alternative than to retract, and show that Alefantis had admissible evidence against Jones that he did not have on any other well known personality talking about PG, and explain why Jones was the perfect foil or proxy to attack on behalf of you, me, DS, and just about every other person discussing PG, but I am not going to waste my time because the worst of you cowards will deny it to the death anyway.
The evidence against those claiming Jones has done little for the child sex trafficking/slavery story, or worse, claim he's working those very entities so engaged, is devastating, and readily available to anyone who can read or use google.
planetswillalign ago
This is awesome. I saw a comment on another post where you directed people to come read this. You're right about this. I really don't think he was trying to put the apology out to take away from the protest. I just don't believe he would do that. He hates these satanic child molesters.
SmilingWide ago
Dude, get off it. The timing was perfect. The whole thing was scripted. Wake up!
rwb ago
You mean releasing his retraction somewhat after but perhaps before the second of two rallies that virtually half of PG people railed against and said would be insignificant or detrimental to the cause in thread after thread? Why don't you read some of the articles I linked and tell us exactly where Jones is incorrect. Actually, don't bother. You and your brethren never have any interest in the truth, so there's no likelihood this status will change even if you mustered the courage to do so. Here's an even better idea. Go start an alternative media platform, and spend twenty years showing Alex Jones how to really report on child sex trafficking/slavery.
SmilingWide ago
You mean the half that are CFR/Brock/Alefantis trolls? The only comments I saw against the PG Rally was the fact that someone made a 2nd one (the first one) after the one on the 25th was already planned. Talk about diversion tactics. The rally on the 25th was targeted since it's inception and it's obvious to anyone that they pulled out all of the stops to try to stop it.
I'm interested in the truth and justice. That's why I was at the rally.
rwb ago
It doesn't change the fact that you are attributing great significance to the timing of the retraction, which is erroneous for many reasons including the fact that while the rallies were well intentioned (I defended you and other attendees ferociously in threads attacking the rally) they are of relatively minor importance because they are not going to directly lead to speedier arrests. The idea Jones timed his retraction to thwart you is preposterous.
Why are you and other people of like mind unwilling or unable to address the 800 pound gorilla in the room? The 800 pound gorilla is Alex Jones's unparalleled twenty-two year effort to tell the world that it's run by satanic child sex traffickers/torturers. Hell, I'd be willing to give serious and open consideration to the theories of any person making negative claims about Jones if they were willing to acknowledge the undeniable truth that Jones has devoted more broadcasting time to covering satanic child sex trafficking/torture than anyone living or dead, except perhaps David Icke. Admit it, and I assure you I will give fullest consideration to any other complaints.
SmilingWide ago
Also, I'm not attributing great significance to the impact of his apology, only the timing... It's fucking obvious dude.
rwb ago
Re-read the first sentence of the post you just replied to.
SmilingWide ago
I know how to read.
SmilingWide ago
I've been listening to Jones for 10+ years. I know what a fraud he is.
rwb ago
Why do you listen?
SmilingWide ago
To know my enemies.
rwb ago
Ahh yes, the 800 pound gorilla.
SmilingWide ago
I don't think Alex weighs quite that much.
JeremiahSinclair ago
Totally agree, thanks for making the time to create this post!
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
You typed Jonestein wrongly.
noone222 ago
Thank you for this ! You are right and I applaud your comments !
cakeoflightylight ago
I watch him all the time. His retraction on James Alefantis was insulting and tragic.There are a few possible explanations but amongst them is not "James Alefantis is probably innocent" because that is untrue.
EyeOfHorus ago
hardly insulting unless you are referring to pedophile pimp Alefantis or child rapist Podesta insulting our intelligence. Since you are a regular listener then you already know that Google denied InfoWars access to an anticipated 4-5Million in advertisement fees. Google's attack coupled with an obvious Alefantis SLAPP lawsuit would greatly hinder InfoWars move into the DC office.
From a business standpoint, Jones did the absolute right thing. Cut liability of child traffiker Alefantis and press forward with DC office.
djklbd ago
That guy is such A fucking gatekeeper
THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago
Jonestein*
http://www.infostormer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/alex-jonestein.jpg
ScientiaPotentia ago
Here's the thing; AJ runs a business. He is liable for what he says. Slander cases in the US proceed pretty quickly because of case backlogs. They can be determined in a few of hearings. If they show a video of AJ making allegations, AJ will have to provide proof of allegations. If he doesn't have it they will rule in plaintiff's favor. He stood to lose a lot of money. So he is focusing on other areas while others can take up the fight against CPP. Pizzagate is a mass effort. So AJ is out when it comes to CPP, no big deal. Others are moving forward with investigation.
cakeoflightylight ago
No, James Alefantis has to prove Alex Jones made the allegations maliciously (knowing that they were false or with reckless disregard for the truth). Yes Alex could lose the lawsuit given the legal climate but technically, no, the burden does not fall on the defendant to prove the allegations were true. The burden is always on the plaintiff to prove every element of his claim. However nearly everything Alex Jones said about James Alefantis was true, up until the retraction, the first false statement Alex Jones has probably ever made in his life on his show.
podesta4prison ago
Yesterday he talked about it extensively. I feel like you could tell he was being dishonest about his retraction. He has a certain ego with his viewers, and he comes off as insecure when he knows he's being a letdown. I've seen it before, happens sometimes when you run a three hour daily broadcast, especially when the corporate world is cutting your ability to externally advertise and generate new funds.
cakeoflightylight ago
yeah I agree with you, he is being forced to say it and it makes him nervous. Part of why it is so disappointing is that he has to keep repeating it. Much of what he is talking about is stuff he's reported on before, and up until now, he was kind of ignoring pizzagate, now he is suddenly trying to go after pedophiles while simultaneously pretending there is no link here to James Alefantis. That's going to prove to be a lot more difficult than he thinks. I hope James gets arrested soon because watching Alex is becoming difficult for me and I loved the show prior to that.
B_dog ago
I agreed with everything you said until "first false statement." AJ has dropped some wild theories. Some of them were years ahead of the curve. But other times he'll say you can search for something and it's not there. Whenever I listen to him I find myself frantically searching what he says on the Internet. It often checks out. But sometimes he's out there on his own. I think he's got so many facts, tips and articles rattling around in his head he conflates things.
44NJ9 ago
He single handily tried to destroy the credibility of the march that weekend. He's no better than those baby lovers. I don't believe for 1sec he was going to get sued, he bowed to almighty dollar.
djklbd ago
He's a COINTELPRO shill dude
ScientiaPotentia ago
Well, he wouldn't have a show and then what? The monetary system and secular rule of law is the system we as a species have CHOSEN to live by. We may have made up the game but its a pretty fun game even if you have to play by the rules. If you have a better system, I am all ears.
44NJ9 ago
That's not true he wouldn't have a show. Do some research about the vietnam era cointelpro. They were CIA that infiltrated and led groups that were anti war to control the direction of the group and destroy it from within. That's exactly why I think he has such a big show, he has unseen hands supporting him along the way.