I remember him . very well. It wasn't just him though and he never abused me himself that I can recall. He was one of the teens that used to take us back to the man at the armory. It would have been Waterloo Iowa, my memories that I can confirm were around 83-84.
Probably you have read Noreen Gosch's account of the kidnapping and that one of the local police officers let her know that the local police were told to "stand down" at the time of her son's kidnapping.
Years later, she discovered that her husband was involved in some way in setting up their son's kidnapping.
Another MKULTRA victim Paul Bonacci asked his lawyer to let Noreen Gosch know that he was forced to take part in the kidnapping in luring her son into a car. Wasn't the first time that Bonacci was forced to do this and he says that the kids were usually immediately put to sleep/drugged.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Paul+Bonacci
Also Noreen Gosch later related that her son did visit her on one occasion and discussed some of what had been happening to him. Don't know if she revealed it all.
Not sure if Noreen Gosch is still alive but she has done more on this issue than anyone else.
Noreen Gosch and the Discovery: Years ago one of our regular PreventingAbuseConference speakers, Noreen Gosch, mother of kidnapping victim Johnny Gosch discovered her son was abducted by a national pedophile ring (30 years ago). A few years back she uncovered a massive Internet pornography network resulting in hundreds of arrests. Below is a statement from her:
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"Human trafficking is fanned by the flames of "pornography". The internet has made it easy for these perverted individuals to view [pornography] .... all types and soon that isn't enough to achieve their thrills, they must move on to something else which is often violating a child. Addiction to [pornography] is the breeding ground for "human trafficking, murder and torture of young innocent victims."
Very much agree with that analysis of pornography.
For women, it is certainly pornography qualifying as propaganda against females - to demean and degrade them -- and to encourage violence against them.
We are also seeing the effect this violent and degrading porn has on the minds of men as they become addicted to it.
The result is a world changing loss of their family, friends, work.
I think Gosch's Mom lives in W. Des Moines. I have an acquaintance in Des Moines who's a cop and he knows the Mom's version of the story pretty well. He said the kidnapping of her son drove her pretty crazy or hysterical. Small world.
Wow unreal. I'm familiar with that area from relatives. This saddens me to hear. I'm sorry for your pain, and all I would say is that you can beat this by turning to the one who has loved you from before you were born.
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pizzaequalspedo ago
Also, are you saying that Johnny Gosch was your handler? I'm curious what part of Iowa this occurred in and if you can confirm that.
Imnukkinfuts79 ago
I remember him . very well. It wasn't just him though and he never abused me himself that I can recall. He was one of the teens that used to take us back to the man at the armory. It would have been Waterloo Iowa, my memories that I can confirm were around 83-84.
Votescam ago
Probably you have read Noreen Gosch's account of the kidnapping and that one of the local police officers let her know that the local police were told to "stand down" at the time of her son's kidnapping. Years later, she discovered that her husband was involved in some way in setting up their son's kidnapping. Another MKULTRA victim Paul Bonacci asked his lawyer to let Noreen Gosch know that he was forced to take part in the kidnapping in luring her son into a car. Wasn't the first time that Bonacci was forced to do this and he says that the kids were usually immediately put to sleep/drugged. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Paul+Bonacci Also Noreen Gosch later related that her son did visit her on one occasion and discussed some of what had been happening to him. Don't know if she revealed it all. Not sure if Noreen Gosch is still alive but she has done more on this issue than anyone else. Noreen Gosch and the Discovery: Years ago one of our regular PreventingAbuseConference speakers, Noreen Gosch, mother of kidnapping victim Johnny Gosch discovered her son was abducted by a national pedophile ring (30 years ago). A few years back she uncovered a massive Internet pornography network resulting in hundreds of arrests. Below is a statement from her:
** "Human trafficking is fanned by the flames of "pornography". The internet has made it easy for these perverted individuals to view [pornography] .... all types and soon that isn't enough to achieve their thrills, they must move on to something else which is often violating a child. Addiction to [pornography] is the breeding ground for "human trafficking, murder and torture of young innocent victims."
Noreen Gosch, 3-17-11 ** http://johnnygosch.com/
Very much agree with that analysis of pornography. For women, it is certainly pornography qualifying as propaganda against females - to demean and degrade them -- and to encourage violence against them. We are also seeing the effect this violent and degrading porn has on the minds of men as they become addicted to it. The result is a world changing loss of their family, friends, work.
The_Roman_Numeral ago
Early 80's...Johnny 'David' Gosch was kidnapped On September 5th, 1982 at the age of 12 in Des Moines, Iowa. Apparently ordered by Col.Michael Aquino.
NeedPolyGF ago
I think Gosch's Mom lives in W. Des Moines. I have an acquaintance in Des Moines who's a cop and he knows the Mom's version of the story pretty well. He said the kidnapping of her son drove her pretty crazy or hysterical. Small world.
pizzaequalspedo ago
Wow unreal. I'm familiar with that area from relatives. This saddens me to hear. I'm sorry for your pain, and all I would say is that you can beat this by turning to the one who has loved you from before you were born.