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micha_ ago

Screenshots of email entries as prove that something was sent? Emails written on the mobile? LOL. That's what "Titus Frost" is selling us as evidence of having submitted useful info to the police?

Is that the same "Titus Frost" who showed his damaged car and suggested that this was because his investigations? Reminds me about David Seaman, who had a fast heartbeat, after someone shaked his hand. And lost a friend already, because of his "investigations". Just like the other guy who sold t-shirts and was allegedly threatened by Alefantis.

VieBleu ago

Just like the other guy who sold t-shirts and was allegedly threatened by Alefantis.

This was proven to be true.

"Titus Frost" who showed his damaged car

no it wasn't his car. You should go back and get your facts straight.

Screenshots of email entries as prove that something was sent? Emails written on the mobile? LOL. That's what "Titus Frost" is selling us as evidence of having submitted useful info to the police?

Sounds like the derision that was attempted to throw shade on Ryan, when he was threatened by Alefantis. Turned out all the deriders were hyenas and Ryan was correct.

Thx for your comment though, this is a controversial topic and we have to hear all sides.

micha_ ago

This was proven to be true.

Sure! Just like prove that "Titus Frost" submitted documents to the police with a screenshot and that CPP homepage was hacked. Too bad an evidence of the hack never was presented...

"Ryan" was correct? Where is his legal action against Alefantis?

This is all getting silly and I notice that you are part of the problem, too...

VieBleu ago

whatever - Ryan's threat was determined creditable by the police whom he reported it to. He never had any intention of suing Alefantis, and no wonder. That's all.

Pixel_loves_Polygon ago

There's people out there making a lot of money off of pizzagate that's for sure. Must be a tremendous amount of pressure to have to deliver a new bombshell from "sources" every couple of weeks to keep those monthly donations rolling in.

VieBleu ago

dumb comment. If anyone is "making a lot of money off pizzagate" that means there is a huge ocmmunity out there supporting them, or we are all rich!

You can't have it both ways - If we are a small community as you like to say, no one is getting much money out of us, If we are a huge enough community to make people rich, then you've already lost ha ha ha

Or we are just a few bored billionaires and pizzagate is our hobby. That's it.

Pixel_loves_Polygon ago

I missed where I said it was a small community. Or a large one for that matter. (Are you sure you meant to respond to me?) Nice non-argument though.

Of course, everyone is free to believe hearsay. People tend to do that when they let emotions take over logic. That's sort of my point.

I on the other hand haven't seen any actual evidence of CP from this hacked site. Whether I believe it was there or not doesn't matter in the end of course. If it exists it's certainly not admissible in court now. That's not a win for us. And I have to question the logic behind the whole thing. (Handing illegally obtained evidence over to LE in the hopes that they will use it to what, arrest, prosecute? No judge will accept it!) At least that's what I glean from all this, correct me if that's not what happened here, please.

What I do see however, is people making up to 5k/month for mostly repeating the things they read here on Voat and telling us that their "sources" confirm everything we want desperately to believe is real. (How nice!) And it worries me that if we are not more discerning about some of this stuff there will come a time when it will be used to further discredit everything done here as a witch-hunt once and for all.

If you believe that there is a huge effort underway to discredit pedo/pizzagate, then it's not a stretch to believe that there will be those that actively work against the community from within under the guise of having "special access" and "sources" in a effort to push disinfo, keep people running in circles or simply to exploit the generosity of people who want something to be done about it. It is like this in absolutely every conspiracy community from JFK to Chemtrails to UFO's.

I'm certainly looking forward to actual evidence but, in the meantime, I won't apologize for my skepticism or criticisms of the people selling merchandise, shilling products and collecting donations while not providing anything concrete that I can't just find here for free. (edit: And by free I mean done by people who are doing it because they are passionate about it and have nothing to gain from it)

VieBleu ago

I'll just repeat - people who are upset at the way other people freely choose to spend their money remind me A LOT of Nellie the mod here who concern trolls the hell out of our protests because of being so very afraid on behalf of everyone.

Spending your time grousing about other people's money is a waste of your time, if you are sincere. If you are here to sow division of course, it's a great tactic. 'nuff said.