As someone whose followed Jones for a long time, I'd like to make an observation. To those who are annoyed by this turn of events, keep this in mind. If given the opportunity, Jones would tear the extremities off of any pedophile, not metaphorically but literally, with bare hands. Of this I am certain. Nonetheless, Jones also believes he has a greater mission in combating many evils of the day, including PG, and that mission cannot be completed if Infowars is sued into oblivion. His apology is a tactical move, one that no doubt stings, a lot, but a tactical move nonetheless, for the long term game plan.
Jones was talking to Nancy Schaefer about child kidnapping rings almost a decade before the Podesta emails/pizzagate story even broke. His track record of hollering about about what the elite are really doing to children is unparalleled. He's mentioned the kidnapping, rape, and torture probably 5000 times since he's been on air. Jones has earned the right to step back one time with one very powerful man in order to continue operations. Try starting an alternative media news outlet, spending two decades doing what he has, and then complain.
ee what a real courageous investigator [with the actual academic credentials and achievements for the accomplishment] says and does publicly. Do you think Dr. Fetzer is afraid to be sued for libel. No Way. He can back up everything he says. And who has viciously attacked and made fun of Professor Fetzer? "Jones"
Fetzer's comments in the video are laudable. However, it's worth noting that he speaks about PG in general terms and does not name Alefantis specifically as a participant in the kidnap, rape, and torture of children, and thus is not subject to the attention of one James Alefantis. This is not remotely a knock on Fetzer, but it makes clear the different situations Fetzer and Jones are in. Big difference Samhara. Jones even parsed his retraction so as to only exonerate Alefantis and not Clinton or Podesta and Co., etc.
In my book, people like you have no idea what it takes to take on the most wicked and powerful entities in the world day in and day out for two decades. Has Jones said critical things about Fetzer in the past? Very likely, but VT has attacked Jones relentlessly for years and I am fairly confident Fetzer was a party to some of it while he was there. That's the one knock I have against all alternative media personalities and journalists. They don't know that the enemy relishes the infighting. It doesn't even matter what it's about, as long as we're eating each other. Poor tactical approach. We have to learn to appreciate the areas where we agree rather than focus on those where we do not.
I'll say it again, with emphasis, Jones has been hollering about the kidnap, rape and torture of children by the D.C. elite for twenty f*****g years, and people like you now want to tar and feather him for stepping back one time with one very powerful person so as to avoid being buried up to the eyeballs in litigation, thus ending Infowars for good. Some of you have no idea how to look at the big picture.
Look, if you're going to call Jones a liar and traitor who is actually working for the other side, of logical necessity you have to assume every guest he's ever had on is also a subversive agent, or a dupe. The list is ridiculous. Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinny, Nancy Schaefer, Walter Jones, General Albert Stubblebine (two star general and highest ranking military officer to go public on 9/11 coverup) Jim Marrs, Texxe Marrs, the list is probably about 5000 guests over 22 years of broadcasting, many of whom I am certain you you would hold in high esteem for their work in countering the PTB. Are we really to believe all these people are idiots who simply do not have your discernment? Or, could you have fallen for the very trap laid by the PTB to believe he's some gatekeeper, whatever the hell that's supposed to be?
It's fascinating the way people bandy around terms like gatekeeper or controlled opposition as if they actually know what's going on in this incredibly complex world. I have news. Those terms are integrated in a completely different way than you might imagine. The PTB has no way to exercise control over people like Jones and many other alternative media personalities, but they'd like you to believe they do, at any cost, so they introduced the terms using cognitive infiltration so as to give the illusion that Jones and others are working for the PTB, and the tactic is apparently working very well. There is no possible benefit to the PTB from fostering someone to go on air and scream about how wicked the PTB is day in and day out for 22 years. It's absurd on every level, and the thousands of respectable guests that have been given an open platform on Infowars know this. Is Jones perfect? No, because no one is.
"if you're going to call Jones a liar and traitor who is actually working for the other side, of logical necessity you have to assume every guest he's ever had on is also a subversive agent, or a dupe."
Then by your admission, Jones's guests recognize that Jones has an audience that is important to reach. How can it be important to both Jones's guests and the PTB to have this specific audience reached with damning material from said guests? There is an obvious logical contradiction here.
The logical conclusion is you are mistaken in imagining the PTB are happy about or even foster Jones and his many guests so they can reach and inform a significant audience. The PTB merely makes lemonade out of lemons by convincing people like you that Jones is one of them, and I have to concede, they're f******g masters at it.
Some would go on just to gain exposure, but hardly everyone, and certainly not the majority. Many guests hold him in high regard. If you're going to make a claim that he ran 9/11 into the ground, you're going to have to back it up with at least a modicum of proof. By my reckoning, Jones mentioned 9/11 probably a thousand times in the last ten years. He is perhaps more general in how he couches it than some would like, but if you want nuts and bolts 9/11 go visit AE9/11 instead of Infowars. The man's earned the right to pick and choose his battles.
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rwb ago
As someone whose followed Jones for a long time, I'd like to make an observation. To those who are annoyed by this turn of events, keep this in mind. If given the opportunity, Jones would tear the extremities off of any pedophile, not metaphorically but literally, with bare hands. Of this I am certain. Nonetheless, Jones also believes he has a greater mission in combating many evils of the day, including PG, and that mission cannot be completed if Infowars is sued into oblivion. His apology is a tactical move, one that no doubt stings, a lot, but a tactical move nonetheless, for the long term game plan.
samhara ago
"Jones" is an actor. You only think you know him.
If he was protecting children he would've stood up to Alephatis.
He's loves to call other people "coward" I wonder why?
rwb ago
Jones was talking to Nancy Schaefer about child kidnapping rings almost a decade before the Podesta emails/pizzagate story even broke. His track record of hollering about about what the elite are really doing to children is unparalleled. He's mentioned the kidnapping, rape, and torture probably 5000 times since he's been on air. Jones has earned the right to step back one time with one very powerful man in order to continue operations. Try starting an alternative media news outlet, spending two decades doing what he has, and then complain.
samhara ago
ee what a real courageous investigator [with the actual academic credentials and achievements for the accomplishment] says and does publicly. Do you think Dr. Fetzer is afraid to be sued for libel. No Way. He can back up everything he says. And who has viciously attacked and made fun of Professor Fetzer? "Jones"
https://youtu.be/45D4zDNsaeM
In my book Jones deserves nothing but to be relieved from his post as top Alt Propagandist.
rwb ago
Fetzer's comments in the video are laudable. However, it's worth noting that he speaks about PG in general terms and does not name Alefantis specifically as a participant in the kidnap, rape, and torture of children, and thus is not subject to the attention of one James Alefantis. This is not remotely a knock on Fetzer, but it makes clear the different situations Fetzer and Jones are in. Big difference Samhara. Jones even parsed his retraction so as to only exonerate Alefantis and not Clinton or Podesta and Co., etc.
In my book, people like you have no idea what it takes to take on the most wicked and powerful entities in the world day in and day out for two decades. Has Jones said critical things about Fetzer in the past? Very likely, but VT has attacked Jones relentlessly for years and I am fairly confident Fetzer was a party to some of it while he was there. That's the one knock I have against all alternative media personalities and journalists. They don't know that the enemy relishes the infighting. It doesn't even matter what it's about, as long as we're eating each other. Poor tactical approach. We have to learn to appreciate the areas where we agree rather than focus on those where we do not.
I'll say it again, with emphasis, Jones has been hollering about the kidnap, rape and torture of children by the D.C. elite for twenty f*****g years, and people like you now want to tar and feather him for stepping back one time with one very powerful person so as to avoid being buried up to the eyeballs in litigation, thus ending Infowars for good. Some of you have no idea how to look at the big picture.
samhara ago
No, I don't "just now" want to tar and feather "Jones."
I've found him a traitor for over 10 years and known he is a liar for 12.
He's like a back - door guy, he sneaks into the opposite fort, pretends he's one of you, then BAM .. Betrayal.
Once you catch him in a lie you shouldn't keep coming back for more.
Liars gonna lie. And liars don't stop, if they get away with it.
And he gets away with it.
rwb ago
Look, if you're going to call Jones a liar and traitor who is actually working for the other side, of logical necessity you have to assume every guest he's ever had on is also a subversive agent, or a dupe. The list is ridiculous. Ron Paul, Cynthia McKinny, Nancy Schaefer, Walter Jones, General Albert Stubblebine (two star general and highest ranking military officer to go public on 9/11 coverup) Jim Marrs, Texxe Marrs, the list is probably about 5000 guests over 22 years of broadcasting, many of whom I am certain you you would hold in high esteem for their work in countering the PTB. Are we really to believe all these people are idiots who simply do not have your discernment? Or, could you have fallen for the very trap laid by the PTB to believe he's some gatekeeper, whatever the hell that's supposed to be?
It's fascinating the way people bandy around terms like gatekeeper or controlled opposition as if they actually know what's going on in this incredibly complex world. I have news. Those terms are integrated in a completely different way than you might imagine. The PTB has no way to exercise control over people like Jones and many other alternative media personalities, but they'd like you to believe they do, at any cost, so they introduced the terms using cognitive infiltration so as to give the illusion that Jones and others are working for the PTB, and the tactic is apparently working very well. There is no possible benefit to the PTB from fostering someone to go on air and scream about how wicked the PTB is day in and day out for 22 years. It's absurd on every level, and the thousands of respectable guests that have been given an open platform on Infowars know this. Is Jones perfect? No, because no one is.
samhara ago
That's false.
"if you're going to call Jones a liar and traitor who is actually working for the other side, of logical necessity you have to assume every guest he's ever had on is also a subversive agent, or a dupe."
rwb ago
If it's false, then provide the reason why thousands of respectable guests do not see what you apparently see.
samhara ago
Dr. P went on there for the audience.
Even though Jones kept interrupting him and treating him disrespectfully.
Greg Palast also. He went there for the publicity.
Lots of people do that. It's less than a vote of support, just to appear there to get a large audience.
samhara ago
I listen when Dr. Steve P. is on there.
And turn up the speed so Jones' voice gets blurred.
rwb ago
Then by your admission, Jones's guests recognize that Jones has an audience that is important to reach. How can it be important to both Jones's guests and the PTB to have this specific audience reached with damning material from said guests? There is an obvious logical contradiction here.
The logical conclusion is you are mistaken in imagining the PTB are happy about or even foster Jones and his many guests so they can reach and inform a significant audience. The PTB merely makes lemonade out of lemons by convincing people like you that Jones is one of them, and I have to concede, they're f******g masters at it.
samhara ago
Why do you try to deny that people go on his show to gain exposure?
Why did he run the 9/11 Movement into the ground?
rwb ago
Some would go on just to gain exposure, but hardly everyone, and certainly not the majority. Many guests hold him in high regard. If you're going to make a claim that he ran 9/11 into the ground, you're going to have to back it up with at least a modicum of proof. By my reckoning, Jones mentioned 9/11 probably a thousand times in the last ten years. He is perhaps more general in how he couches it than some would like, but if you want nuts and bolts 9/11 go visit AE9/11 instead of Infowars. The man's earned the right to pick and choose his battles.
samhara ago
They are happy . Look what he did for them today!
Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones backs off 'Pizzagate' claims
http://www.sfgate.com/national/article/Conspiracy-theorist-Alex-Jones-backs-off-11027011.php
samhara ago
You are wasting my time. And are spewing nonsense.
I answered your questions, which is more than you did for me.
Why do you have so much faith in "Alex Jones?"