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SuperJohnWayne ago

How is this related to the title of this post regarding the McCann's taking a lie detector petition? A petition of a million signatures can't force someone to take a lie detector in the US, and one likely cannot be forced to take one in the UK, regardless of the political pressure the petition is intended to force.

kestrel9 ago

Well the link is a database of sex offenders in the UK and Ireland and really that is why I posted it as a resource. The McCann case mention was secondary, I just happened to spot it, and I was thinking mentioning that page would be of help in following the PG rules. Sorry if the heading is misleading, not intentional.

I've been looking into the ties between Clement Freud, the McCanns and Richard Branson the last couple nights, so that case was on my mind. The whole story seems very strange given some of the quotes from Kate's book about her new 'friend' Freud. The "best risotto I ever had"...I'm thinking, okay, many people really lose their appetites and appreciation for food when they are in distress and mourning and loss, but okay. And the jogging around his house, the quote about him being like visiting a dear relative after a really bad day in school (he was in his boxers or jammies whatever). A "really bad day in school"?! Okay...and then there was the quote of what Freud said to her about the cadaver dog signaling a positive hit...I can't recall the wording now, but it was very odd.

I was speculating (to myself) on whether they were members of a club or secret society, because the Freud and Branson thing just doesn't make sense to me. Clement Freud was on Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic maiden voyage, so those two knew each other for a long time. So the McCann case comes back to the spot light, and who does Obama vacation with? Richard Branson.

kestrel9 ago

Here is the quote from Clement Freud that struck me as odd, along with account of Kate's reaction, written in this article: http://archive.is/Q25Mo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3659322/Police-launch-probe-Freud-knew-Maddie-uncover-new-details-ex-MP-s-disturbing-relationship-McCanns.html

"When the couple told Freud how sniffer dogs were supposed to have detected signs that someone had died in their apartment, he replied laconically: ‘So what are they going to do? Put them on the stand? One bark for yes, two for no?’

To Kate, who could have no idea about the kind of man they were consorting with, this was just the tonic she needed: Freud’s ‘way of making everything seem a little less terrible’.

According to Clarence Mitchell, she and her husband were ‘shocked and appalled’ when they learnt the truth about him a few days ago. June 2016? Yet, on the basis of all they know so far, he says they ‘can see no reason to believe’ he may have had knowledge of Madeleine’s disappearance."

Earlier in the article we learned that Clarence Mitchell was the McCann's PR advisor early on (briefly) and then again after Justine McGuinness quit.

"The McCanns attended the luncheon accompanied by Gerry’s sister, Trisha Cameron, and her husband Sandy, and their then PR adviser Justine McGuinness, a former Liberal-Democrat parliamentary candidate. Though McGuinness and Freud had a political affinity, I am assured that the pair had never previously met and she did not fix the meeting.

McCann watchers suggest, however, that some part might have been played by Clarence Mitchell, who briefly handled the couple’s PR before McGuinness and would become their mouthpiece after she quit the role.

This is because Mitchell entered into a consultancy contract with Matthew Freud’s company a few months later. From his office in Brighton this week, Mitchell insisted this was a coincidence.

As Kate describes colorfully in her book, the lunch was an odd affair. Freud’s opening gambit was to offer his guests shots of strawberry vodka, though it was only just midday. He then prepared them, as Kate recalled, a ‘bloody marvellous’ watercress salad followed by mushroom risotto — ‘the best we’ve ever tasted’ — and regaled them with his trademark wit."

Sounds like a lovely lunch was had by all.

SuperJohnWayne ago

Ah, ok, I see. Your comment that I'm replying to is great. I don't think the Branson, McCann, Freud relationship has been explored in depth, if much at all. I was also trying to find a connection between Branson and Epstein. There must be one. Both have islands in the Caribbean, and Epstein for sure, and Branson possibly is involved in illegal activities. Commerce, communication, sharing of employees between the islands? Money trail between the two, or pictures of them together? I haven't seen any, except for Matthew Freud, Clement's son, who is listed in Epstein's black book along with Branson. Anyway nice work.

kestrel9 ago

Thank you...some extra trivia on the subject of Branson and Freud...and this may seem odd but..Uri Geller was also on that flight I mentioned: http://www.urigeller.com/clement_freud_andrey_malakhov__mark_townsend_/ although he wasn't in this picture: http://www.lonelyplanet.com/news/virgin-atlantic-inaugural-flight/ (BTW: the woman who tells about Freud raping her says he did so once while at the horse races).

Turns out, according to the article, that Uri and Freud are distant cousins, and both were guests of Richard Bransons' maiden flight of the Virgin Atlantic. (Branson, http://www.biography.com/people/richard-branson-9224520, knew a lot of people. He helped launch the career of 'Tubular Bells' Mike Oldfield). Uri also went to Freud's 80th Birthday party. I just so happened to run across this tonight: https://spidercatweb.blog/2015/09/05/uri-geller-mind-control-paedophiles/ http://archive.is/hU4xr and have yet to dig through it all.

One other thing unconfirmed, unrelated but just odd, on the database I posted was a case of a missing boy, and there was an artist's drawing of a man seen with him...who happens to look uncannily like one of the people in the photo of the Virgin Atlantic maiden voyage! So weird...I'm checking it out before naming names, don't want to disparage the person because of a strange coincidence.