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shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

Aisha was 16, not 6.

matheasysolutions ago

that is false. It is widely accepted by the Muslim world that she was 6. It was only recently that some apologists tried twisting history because the modern world finds it appalling.

Please read through this: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Aishas_Age_of_Consummation

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

Classical Arab language used a base 20 number system. That's widely accepted by every historian from here to the east.

matheasysolutions ago

what?

matheasysolutions ago

what again?

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

Translation issue. If you accept that particular Hadith to be accurate, you accept it was written in classical Arab dialect.

matheasysolutions ago

again, can you explain what you are talking about? Many hadiths say she was 6, even saying she played with dolls and was a little girl:

Narrated ‘Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

Say a classical Arab person wanted to write the word "26". Many times they would just write the word "six" followed by the numerical representation of "20", which was often mistaken for punctuation by translators.

I'll post a link in a bit showing Muhammad did this often.

Same with teens.

nnfx ago

but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151

Edit: Is there also some dialectic thing that makes this say the actuall oposite of what we are reading here?

She was allowed to play with dolls because she was a big girl who passed puberty for long?

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

Here's an easy way to end this argument.

Aisha's sister Asma was ten years older than her. Hazrat Asma died in the year 73 Hijri at the age of 100, ten or twelve days after the martyrdom of her son Abdullah Ibn Zubair.

The Islamic calendar starts from the year of the Hijrah or the Prophet’s migration from Mecca to Medina.

Therefore, by deducting 73, the year of Hazrat Asma’s death, from 100, her age at that time, we can easily conclude that she was 27 years old during Hijra.

This puts the age of Hazrat Aisha at 17 during the same period.

nnfx ago

but it was allowed for ‘Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Bukhari 8. 73.151

So what does this mean then?

shizzle_mcbobblehead ago

It's a crock of shit. Someone added it after the fact.

nnfx ago

It's from a hadith so nothing new...