Point me in the direction of a mod team that everyone likes. She/he is more strict then the other mods & I wouldn't blame em for being frustrated at every overdramatic overreaction post about a swirl (it's a triangular swirl and even then it's not proof alone).
I'm saying this as a person who has got posts deleted by him/her too. Also there is pizzagatemods subverse for all this as well as some kind of appeal system
I think they are trying to take the path of least resistance, if your a newbie blue pilled and see a swirl, post it on voat and immediately get your post deleted you might lose faith and never return. I guess it's up to us to ask for clarification/downvoat as required?
I'm all for the best tool for the job & voats it until a better one comes along. The mods seem to lack a complete toolkit (eg inability to move threads) not to mention the admins struggling to manage the load as is. I might seem like I am sucking mod dick but I appreciate how hard voat/PG running is
enjoy yourself, fine by me. What I see is a lot of negative propagandizing as in that sticky at the top - total fail the first protest was completely honest and non-violent I see inconsistant application of the rules by the same mods within minutes of decisions - arbitrary is the word. I see disdain and no sense of the community as having a say or any transparency when it comes to major effed up moves. Aside from the space bar at just the time they are negative about the protests they want to quelch, they had already taken away the 100 comment buffer that kept the shills a little at bay from downvoating without any warnning or communication - shill flood followed. I see decision after decision and sneer after sneef from these mods that indicates they are here to control the so called free speech of people interested in uncovering these crimes.
I don't know if it's intentional shilling or a byproduct of a strained website and mod team not originally designed for this amount of activity. I guess at the end of the day the end result is the same. Maybe they will sort the problems out and we won't have to migrate. The cause won't die even if the forum does or is shilled to uselessness
I agree and have wondered IF maybe it is just really a terribly disorganized team with no investment in the PG spirit which puts them at odds with some very passionate people on a controversial topic - but today when I actually had a mod acting supercilious about "how many conspiracy theorists" are on the site as a negative thing, I saw the real disdain naked in the face they have for us. And that sticky post up now by Vindicator is a real disgrace. I actually asked him to mark it 'Accuracy in Question' as already they were completely inaccurate about protest 1 which turned out fine. Vindicator leaves up a post titled "Today's Protest - What A Scam!" which is a misleading title totally unsupported by evidence and yet takes out others of relevance that have more support than that one. The missing search bar is just a joke, and the loss of the 100 comment points in order to downvoat allowed shills to work that much easier. All of that done with no community notice or discussion.
With all that, I still see good posts here and some good things happening. But I don't think it's a good idea not to discuss how this place is run and document it when we see it go bad.
To be fair, it can't be easy being a mod team of people who don't trust anyone and is suspicious of your every move & I agree there is a lot of conspiracy theorists on PG sub that jump at every spiral and suffer from confirmation bias.
Which would be hard to moderate because when you delete that rule breaking post youll have a person accusing you of a conspiracy which would be infuriating so I don't blame them for using the derogatory term "conspiracy theorists"
But they never delete the dumb spiral submissions - leave them up to make the place look bad.
It is a conspiracy investigation, so by definition, anyone that works on it will be a conspiracy theorist. Pretty obvious that if you disdain them, your place is not here.
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Chatman ago
Point me in the direction of a mod team that everyone likes. She/he is more strict then the other mods & I wouldn't blame em for being frustrated at every overdramatic overreaction post about a swirl (it's a triangular swirl and even then it's not proof alone).
I'm saying this as a person who has got posts deleted by him/her too. Also there is pizzagatemods subverse for all this as well as some kind of appeal system
VieBleu ago
yeah funny that, they leave EVERY overdramatic swirl and triangle post up. Every time.
Chatman ago
I think they are trying to take the path of least resistance, if your a newbie blue pilled and see a swirl, post it on voat and immediately get your post deleted you might lose faith and never return. I guess it's up to us to ask for clarification/downvoat as required?
VieBleu ago
there's always an excuse for their lame and inconsistent ridiculous modding. The reality is they are top down countering forward movement on the sub.
Chatman ago
I'm all for the best tool for the job & voats it until a better one comes along. The mods seem to lack a complete toolkit (eg inability to move threads) not to mention the admins struggling to manage the load as is. I might seem like I am sucking mod dick but I appreciate how hard voat/PG running is
VieBleu ago
enjoy yourself, fine by me. What I see is a lot of negative propagandizing as in that sticky at the top - total fail the first protest was completely honest and non-violent I see inconsistant application of the rules by the same mods within minutes of decisions - arbitrary is the word. I see disdain and no sense of the community as having a say or any transparency when it comes to major effed up moves. Aside from the space bar at just the time they are negative about the protests they want to quelch, they had already taken away the 100 comment buffer that kept the shills a little at bay from downvoating without any warnning or communication - shill flood followed. I see decision after decision and sneer after sneef from these mods that indicates they are here to control the so called free speech of people interested in uncovering these crimes.
Chatman ago
I don't know if it's intentional shilling or a byproduct of a strained website and mod team not originally designed for this amount of activity. I guess at the end of the day the end result is the same. Maybe they will sort the problems out and we won't have to migrate. The cause won't die even if the forum does or is shilled to uselessness
VieBleu ago
I agree and have wondered IF maybe it is just really a terribly disorganized team with no investment in the PG spirit which puts them at odds with some very passionate people on a controversial topic - but today when I actually had a mod acting supercilious about "how many conspiracy theorists" are on the site as a negative thing, I saw the real disdain naked in the face they have for us. And that sticky post up now by Vindicator is a real disgrace. I actually asked him to mark it 'Accuracy in Question' as already they were completely inaccurate about protest 1 which turned out fine. Vindicator leaves up a post titled "Today's Protest - What A Scam!" which is a misleading title totally unsupported by evidence and yet takes out others of relevance that have more support than that one. The missing search bar is just a joke, and the loss of the 100 comment points in order to downvoat allowed shills to work that much easier. All of that done with no community notice or discussion.
With all that, I still see good posts here and some good things happening. But I don't think it's a good idea not to discuss how this place is run and document it when we see it go bad.
Chatman ago
To be fair, it can't be easy being a mod team of people who don't trust anyone and is suspicious of your every move & I agree there is a lot of conspiracy theorists on PG sub that jump at every spiral and suffer from confirmation bias.
Which would be hard to moderate because when you delete that rule breaking post youll have a person accusing you of a conspiracy which would be infuriating so I don't blame them for using the derogatory term "conspiracy theorists"
VieBleu ago
But they never delete the dumb spiral submissions - leave them up to make the place look bad.
It is a conspiracy investigation, so by definition, anyone that works on it will be a conspiracy theorist. Pretty obvious that if you disdain them, your place is not here.