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SoberSecondThought ago

I agree FBI Anon was the real thing, but even with all that insider knowledge, he is still just human. He talked about having a suicide pact with his wife if Hillary won, or being suicided if he was caught. He was a very stressed-out individual, and that could not help but influence his conclusions.

I think there could very well be war, but so long as it isn't a US-Russia nuclear exchange, civilization will survive and the U.S. has the forces to keep itself safe. I admit that there could be civil war in the U.S. but I think that's actually more likely to happen in places like Saudi or Pakistan. Or France.

The analogy I like best is the 30-year struggle in Sicily to get rid of the Mafia. The authorities would get the goods on a top guy; so the Mafia would blow up a highway just as the armed convoy carrying the judge in the case was passing (true story). But that wouldn't get the charges dropped, and another judge would come forward. People would refuse to pay the protection money, and get their businesses burned down; but then the whole town would donate funds to rebuild whatever business was destroyed, and put up stickers saying their business would not pay either (another true story). It was a long, slow, heartbreaking grind.

Similarly here. If it does come to war, or civil war, well, those are the breaks. We cannot let fear of that outcome stop us. But personally, I am looking ahead to a couple of decades of volunteering and donating to citizens' organizations, doing the dirty, tedious work of keeping the politicians accountable, getting past the media roadblocks, debunking the fake news, and slowly but surely taking back the big media companies, the social media, the universities, and the federal, state, and city governments. I'm trying to see past the first spasm of chaos to the long-term changes that are needed, and I encourage everyone to try and do the same. What you are seeing here today is the start of a generation of effort.

In other words, folks, try to breathe, and pace yourselves. This can be done, but it's going to take longer than you're probably hoping right now.

EDIT: Oops, I referred to a "judge" above, but it was actually a prosecutor.

paulf ago

I think there could very well be war, but so long as it isn't a US-Russia nuclear exchange, civilization will survive and the U.S. has the forces to keep itself safe. I admit that there could be civil war in the U.S. but I think that's actually more likely to happen in places like Saudi or Pakistan. Or France.

It isn't the US vs Russia that bothers me. It's Israel. If it ever comes out that the Mossad did 9/11, that it does mass organ harvesting in secret and blackmails half the US administration through pedo operations, then the country will disappear off the face of the earth, no matter what the cost is. It will be scraped off and dumped into the Med.

SoberSecondThought ago

While we obviously don't know exactly what is in the files, my theory is that all these various rogue agencies and their scumbag criminal allies are very opportunistic and messy in their operations. Imagine what the Washington DC trafficking scene must look like, based on what little we know. Kids are brought in from Haiti or Africa or any number of places, AND kids are snatched off the streets in Maryland and Virginia, AND they're seized by CPS and handed over to pedo foster homes, AND there is grooming that leaves the kids where they are and just uses them, like Dennis Hastert and the congressional pages. All of this has been going on for decades, leaving evidence scattered everywhere. The players include the MS-13 gang, the Saudis, the state-level child protective services, NCMEC, the DC police, the 7th floor of the State Department, high-level Democrats like Podesta, low-level hangers-on like the people on Alefantis' Instagram who genuinely like being part of the scene, and people at FBI, CIA, NSA who do what they have to like FBI Anon. No one is firmly in charge, or knows everything. I submit that no one would deliberately plan something like this. Discipline is demonstrably poor among these alphabet soup agencies, they squabble like it's 1944 and they're the SS and the Gestapo.They're supposed to keep control of a crowd of Latino gang-bangers and paid-off cops and blood-drinking UFO-obsessed sadists, and then somehow Mossad is going to keep control of them? Recall that FBI Anon had a low opinion of the NSA, saying that it had vast amounts of data but did not actually know what it had.

I am certainly willing to believe that Mossad blackmails some U.S. politicians. I haven't researched these stories about organ harvesting in Israel, but I'm willing to stipulate that there is something real behind them too. But this isn't a nice neat pyramid with someone at the top, following a master plan for world domination. The Jews aren't running America; nobody is running America. It's a ridiculous, horrible, global shitshow. The story in Canada, for example, seems to be that Pierre Trudeau was a pedo who narrowly avoided being taken down by a military coup, that Margaret Trudeau was subjected to MK Ultra mind control, and that Justin Trudeau is actually the son of Fidel Castro. I don't know which parts of that are true, but does any of it sound like it followed a coherent plan?

Picture the Sopranos and how completely they were ruled by their screwed-up appetites, their fears, and their mutual antagonism. If you were to hand control of global surveillance and black ops to Big Pussy and Pauly and and waited twenty years, I think the result would be closer to what we are dealing with here.

Again, just my two cents. I'm new here, not trying to squelch anyone else's argument.

paulf ago

I think what we're seeing is glimpses of multiple operations run by different organisations, some of which are in a hierarchy and some not. 800 000 children go missing in the US every year. That is a staggering amount. Just the logistics alone of moving nearly a million kids from point A to point B, let alone via a bunch of other points and in secret, boggles the mind.

SoberSecondThought ago

True. But then on the bright side, that may be what finally brings the whole thing crashing down. It has just gotten too big to hide.