You bring up interesting points~thank you. Honestly I've not followed wiki or thought much about it till the podesta emails. I was aware of the Manning incident and relation to wiki but that was about it. I've grown so distrustful of limited hangouts over the years everything comes with a grain of salt. Tarpley at one time I thought was legit maybe but caught a few things that made me go um. I cked into Young thinking he might be legit and caught a few things there. It was like did I find tragic flaws in the above or shills planting tragic flaws/who can say. It's the reason I don't take anything anyone says to the bank. Way way back I thought AJ might be legit (like super way back lol) but he had this w2k scare night that I read about later (never put any stock into w2k so didn't keep up with it) which was reminiscent of Wells War of the Worlds/testing public reaction.

In it all I have always wondered how these ex spooks or bastions of truth manage to stay this side of the dirt. I'm from the 60's and have watched more assassinations than I care to count. JFK was my first. Back then in Texas (where I was from) the grapevine traveled beauty shops. Mom would come home with stories of witness to the assassination that had mysteriously died or disappeared. Anyone in Tx with half a brain knew what LBJ was all about.

Back when I was in college Pacifica radio was to the best of my knowledge a source of independent media. One night starting after midnight was an ex CIA who went on for hours describing how IC works, how they take ppl out etc/fascinating. He explained how LBJ was off'ed. It not only made perfect sense it coincided with my impression of LBJ announcing he would not run for re-election and he looked scared.

When I was in college I dated a fello whose grandfather was one of the founders of Gulf Oil. I dated him the year before he turned 21. He was doing the as he called it 'peasant' thing, drove a VW bug, simple apt etc. He told me that the ppl that run things you will never hear their names. I can still see him saying with disdain Hughes, Rockefeller, Rothschild etc pawns. The ones at the top you will never hear their names and they play the world like a giant monopoly game. When he turned 21 he went to England for the summer/a rite of passage thing. When he came back he was so totally transformed I didn't recognize him. He became very interested in controlling every aspect of my life and gave me the Story of O (s and m) to read for my education. Needless to say I got out of that relationship asap. Few years ago I read the children of the elite are given free reign till they are 21/sow wild oats kinda thing. It all fit.

The hippie movement died almost overnight with the murder of Hendrix and Joplin. It wasn't until few years ago when I stumbled on Laurel Canyon series McGowen that filled in the missing pieces. Took 10 years to relocate to the woods and disengage with general society for the most part. Now I watch. There are more of us than might be imagined that see it's all a ruse. As a sidenote, Dave was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of cancer (with no prior symptoms) and doa'ed pretty quick...inquiring minds.

One of the only ones that I 'feel' was legit/and again, how would I know...is Bill Cooper. He was assassinated in a very public fashion sending a message. My first exposure to Bill was a VHS tape that circulated in the early 80's where he was in Sedona, sweating like crazy obviously scared shitless, exposing at the time what he thought was top secret info he had stumbled on by mistake. Years later after the internet I watched as he explained the top secret info he thought he had stumbled on was actually put there for him to stumble so he would spread dis-info.

It has not escaped me that Julian possibly has been honeypot all along bc of some simple things like he gets take out from a fav place near the embassy and poisoning the food would be a no brainer. I mean basically, if 'they' want you dead might as well invest in prepayment funeral thing.

If it has all been limited hangout then why would Geo indicate wiki is compromised now? Perhaps to give legitimacy to the Podesta leaks. And if that is the case then what I read web whoring that CI wanted Clinton out bc she had become a liability (health and otherwise) would make sense. It's not like these satanic worshiping creeps don't say all the things they do and off all the ppl they do with a piss poor record of covering their asses. Let's face it, they are not terribly bright. Well ha, that would be obvious if they actually believe that worshiping Lucifer gives them special powers. As a group they are sloppy, arrogant and have some delusion they are untouchable. Going back to my college bf they are all expendable with no second thought.

Where does that leave us with trump? Again, my impressions are subjective so I take them with my own grains of salt. It 'seems like' he was sincere, patriot, narcissist and megalomaniac (obvious)/mafia and money laundering/but not into fucking or eating babies...not really psychopathic like I see in Clinton, Bush and bama. Bama may just be garden variety sociopath, I'm not sure (and really don't care). Trump was going to get the US out of all these middle east wars, work with Russia on ISIS and help the 'forgotten man'. His budget skinny is cutting programs to the poor and increasing military spending, increasing presence in the ME and having DHS hire 10 thousand new peeps. Not that the dems ever gave a flying f**k about the poor peeps either/all their pet programs were just for show (and votes) and to keep the poor placated with substandard support services/just enough to keep someone barely alive/slave management.

Israel and Saudi Arabia bromance wants Syria and Iran decimated just like Libya. If trump really wants to limit fed spending then stop rewarding CPS for stealing children and giving them to abusers and pedos. Trumps demeanor with the Saudi prince is also very telling (imho), an air of major discomfort. Trump's fav child has his ear with her slum lord hubby so anything he does right now is clouded. Will he wake up to the scam/who can say. If he is actually what you see is what you get then he's on a fast track learning curve. He is famous for never forgetting when he has been double crossed. I would 'imagine' there is a huge cluster fuck going on in the admin as we speak regardless of the pom pom squad at the ever popular donald reddit thinking everything he does is emperor material. Even within that, how many trolls and shills are promoting the god emperor scenario? I was banned bc I contacted the mods about a growing trend for bigotry/I'm a concerned troll lol. Shoot, I didn't even know the term concerned troll till the campaign stuff which I didn't even follow till maybe Sept.

My major point of focus is a lot of meditation and some esoteric leanings I follow. Word on the 'street' is we are at a tipping point and it could go either way. It is fear that keeps the present matrix dominant. The more any one of us do to disengage from the fear diminishes the matrix. I do see lots of ppl waking up and I see some reasoned comments on the donald reddit that indicates some are asking hard questions other than leading the pom pom squad. Looking globally ppl in so many countries have reached being fed up in critical mass proportions. The song freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose. With the establishment of the EU easy to see where it was heading and now the masses really have nothing left to lose. In that I see 'hope'.

I never saw trump as the solution/he's the wake up call. Unless of course he's been playing along from the get go/again/how would I know. But if one studies history there have been wake up calls 'before' with varying success. Kinda like in the spiral of time study were history keeps repeating and each time testing to see what was learned from the 'past'.

My 'belief' is emotions are magnetic and these magnetic charges form thoughts. Neuro science explains this quite well. I also 'believe' that love has a stronger magnetic charge than fear. Meditation connects me to the highest vibrations. If I look at the slogans circulating (reflects ideas mass (un) consciousness explores) the 'love trumps fear' takes on a different meaning completely disassociated with the campaign rhetoric. The same with the key words make strong, safe, great...all ideas mass (un) consciousness is exploring. There is so much good information on neuro science/quantum explorations that can bring in another element for perspective. I'm not talking about the airy fairy new age stuff that is just as much a part of controlled opposition.

Re pizza or pedogate...the importance is that this mindset has been going on for centuries. Other night I was looking at the history of castles and mansions built by the 'elite'. Consider the irony, all these places built with such over the top opulence, secret pathways et all and for the most part these places where the wealthy cohabited were engaged in satanic rituals as a matter of course. If all the trump movement does is red pill ppl about that it's huge bc as I see it, it's the seat of fear. Unraveling the matrix one thread at a time.

With your wonderful insight into wiki I'll watch it from the perspective of everything exposed is intended. It should be amusing to say the least wink. Thanks so much for our input.