Grant Cameron and Stephen Basset are strong believers that John Podesta is the person who is pushing for full/partial disclosure, in the alien presence, ufo/uap phenomenon. According to the Rockafeller initiative in the 90's Hillary Clinton is said to have been briefed, and also want full/partial disclosure. Grant Cameron investigates anyone who is anyone who is in contact with John Podesta, in the belief that they might know about the cover-up/ alien presence. I listen to Stephen Basset on coast to coast in December of last year. Sad to say that he thought Pizzagate was absolutely ridiculous.