Folks, I've had to repeat this a disturbing amount of times, so let's review how investigations work.
You have an idea that some sort of activity is happening, perpetrated by a person or persons. In order to demonstrate this to others, you search for and document evidence to support your idea. You then present this documented evidence to others in order to convince them that your idea is correct.
That's how the process of convincing people of something you believe works.
It is NOT where you throw out an idea with no evidence whatsoever, and then tell people to go find the evidence on their own.
That's called bullshit. There's plenty in the world already. Don't dump yours here.
I'm sorry to have to sound like an asshole here, but I'm fed up with the amount of assholes on this site that seem to think that their bullshit is contributing to Pizzagate. It isn't. When you make wild claims with nothing more than "I remember someone saying this, go look it up", you are not helping anyone. You are just making noise. Stop it. Either cite the evidence for what you are saying, or shut the fuck up and stop cluttering a serious investigation with your speculation.
I'm not talking to most people here, but the people I'm talking about either know who they are and need to knock off their bullshit, or they're too stupid to have brought anything to this site to begin with.
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VieBleu ago
The people doing this are the shills do it on purpose to degrade the forum. Surely you understand that.
madmanpg ago
Not all of them. Sadly, some are intellectually deficient people. Let's face it, there are some in every group. What we're engaging in here is intellectual activity, and many people who are looking into this are not normally intellectuals. They don't understand why evidence is important or what constitutes evidence. They think if you say it on the internet, it must be true. The joke exists for a reason.
VieBleu ago
The fact that even spam posts that are clearly titled with false claims and depend on false evidence only get flaired for accuracy and then remain on the front page for upwards of 2 days with only about 5 or 6 downvoats from the community should give you a pretty good idea of the amount of reasonable people active here. Either that or there is a bad actor on the mod level that manipulates what stays on the front page, which is certainly not an impossibility.
BTW- I still think your post is a good reminder. I am actually surprised it hasn't been taken down. good show.
madmanpg ago
You echo my sentiments perfectly on many of the ludicrous threads that remain on top. That being said, what is there to do unless the upvote/downvote system is disabled? It seems to be the best defense is to upvote the most significant and informative posts, and to ensure that they're well documented for veracity.
VieBleu ago
the only thing to do is get people to downvote as well as upvoat, since the mods only selectively enforce the rules. I just think there are that few of us on a regular basis now, outnumbered by shills and multiple shill acounts by 4 or 5 to 1 or even more. Doesn't mean there isn't any value to the forum. It is a good place for topical breaking news, a community message board like for the protest, and an archive. Here and there something of interest surfaces.
I'm just saying, asking people here to write better posts is like asking a bunch of orcs to please not eat the hobbit.