The connection to pizzagate here is the elite trying to normalize pedophilia, and that pedophilia is being covered up in Hollywood, which has close ties to Washington.
This is yet another example of pedophilia being normalized by Hollywood, in the show "Family Guy." It couldn't be any more blatant. There's a child character who regularly engages in graphic sexual behavior and speech.
I watched a few episodes of Family Guy once because I'd heard about how evil this show is, and just in those three episodes the child characters were involved in a number of sexual acts and conversations. I can't even go into describing what those child characters were involved in doing, because the things were so disturbing. If "Family Guy" was a live action show, they would have to cut half the show at least, since actual human child actors wouldn't be allowed to do and say those things. It would be considered child pornography, not evening entertainment. Yet this show is allowed to go out to children.
I found an article describing the types of things in this show that involve children in sexual behavior.
In an episode described by parentstv.org, the father character takes a sexual interest in his own daughter. Meanwhile, the mother character takes a sexual interest in her daughter's teen aged boyfriend, and tries to convince him to have sex with her - statutory rape.
In the same episode, the hybrid child/adult character, Stewie, a baby who also acts like an adult, dresses as a woman and gets sexual advances from the family dog/human adult character, Brian.
BRIAN: “I'm sorry. I didn't mean to come on too strong.”
STEWIE: “Oh, that's alright. I've been missing a man's touch, lo, these many months.”
BRIAN: “And I've been missing a woman's touch.”
Brian caresses Stewie's hand and pulls it down toward his crotch.
STEWIE: “Brian, Brian! It's me! Stewie! Oh my god, that was hilarious. You really fell for it!”
Stewie tells Brian that he's the new little girl on the program Jolly Farm. When Brian threatens to tell Lois, Stewie forces him to keep it a secret and insists that Brian becomes his on-set guardian.
STEWIE: “Brian, we both know I touched it. Now, if you'd like to keep that just between us, I suggest you sit back down and order me some chicken fingers.”
A dog molesting a little boy, dressed as a little girl. Before anyone complains, the PTC does realize that this is a cartoon. Talking dogs do not exist. Granted.
Yet, when a two-dimensional baby deer lost its mother in a forest fire, we cried. When a computer-generated robot character combed the planet alone, we sympathized with its loneliness. And when a widower and young boy strapped balloons to a house, we cheered their journey.
Cartoons aren’t real --but the emotions they evoke are.
http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publications/bw/2010/0319worst.asp
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JamesHowardCrow ago
Comparing Family guy to bambi is ridiculous.
Do you watch family guy?
The characters on family guy don't have personalities they have traits they need to exhibit for 15-30 seconds so a joke lands...
Def reading too much into this
EDIT: Also the PTC is a censorship organization that has stifled creative development in this country for far too long. If you think something is inappropriate don't watch it, don't think it is appropriate for your kids-BE A PARENT
bopper ago
Get a moral compass.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Some of us are capable of separating real from pretend....
(Hint: If the people look like drawings it is pretend)
Proii_Pariah ago
Unfortunately...I think he has one. And it's pointed due south!
bopper ago
Haha, good point!
Psalm100 ago
Your reply is what's ridiculous.
Apparently "Family Guy" is a sacred cow of yours, but it's an evil show that portrays evil things, and it's central to the show to involve children in those evil things.
Edit: PTC isn't a "censorship organization." If it wasn't for people you call "censors" we'd already have videos like the alleged Podesta "Fatherhood" video on tv.
Please type out for me some of the sexual content involving the child characters on that show that you know of, right here, right now. If it's so innocent, you shouldn't have any trouble promoting it, being proud of it, and standing behind it.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Couldn't tell you the last episode of family guy I watched. More a sunny, south park, rick n morty, bojack horseman guy.
Network cartoon crap like family guy is made in assembly line fashion by dozens of stressed out people struggling to fill 23 minutes a week with the easiest laziest humor possible... Thus repetitive one note "ewwww pervert" jokes.
"Edit: PTC isn't a "censorship organization." If it wasn't for people you call "censors" we'd already have videos like the alleged Podesta "Fatherhood" video on tv."
False it is not on TV because the only evidence support it being podesta is people's opinion.
"Please type out for me some of the sexual content involving the child characters on that show that you know of, right here, right now. If it's so innocent, you shouldn't have any trouble promoting it, being proud of it, and standing behind it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXCFgMKHwVQ
Edit: Also there is a hilarious joke in which a high school student confess to the dog that she was raped as a child. His response- "So you do go all the way"
Psalm100 ago
No, I meant things like that aren't on TV for people's entertainment because of the people you call "censors." Family Guy is a version of the "Fatherhood" video, which even has the "humor" of the Caillou theme song being sung. Family Guy shows the baby being shot in the chest, just for one example of violence against children being portrayed in it.
And linking to a video isn't typing the material out. The point is for you to personally own it. But not surprisingly, you even chose material that, while bad, is nowhere near the worst on the show either. Just offhand, from the three episodes I saw, I can think of two examples of actual sexual acts involving children. One involved the teen girl character having serious sexual conduct with her teen brother.
So what's the appeal of that to you? What exactly makes that "hilarious" to you, do you think? The thought of what?
JamesHowardCrow ago
facepalm
Yes it was very disturbing when they stopped DRAWING the baby....LOL Do you understand what gallows humor is?
Please just show one example of pedophilia being shown in a positive light on family guy?
EDIT: Also you never answered my question does your "formal training" in regards to filmmaking come from a bible "college"?
Psalm100 ago
I've told you, someone who admits to liking and defending this show, enough about myself. I know I'm qualified to speak on it, and that's enough for me. I also know that this show's defenders try to wrap it in the flag of gallows humor, or satire, to excuse the child pornography. And those are only two of the many rationalizations for things in this show. It's not gallows humor, unless you count it as "gallows humor for pedophiles," or people who don't realize they're thinking like pedophiles do.
On examples of pedophilia being shown in a positive light, the whole premise of the show is one huge example, and I already gave many specific ones.
JamesHowardCrow ago
"On examples of pedophilia being shown in a positive light, the whole premise of the show is one huge example, and I already gave many specific ones."
No you didn't. Please provide one now. The American Dad example ended with the pedophile going to jail and the town cheering....
Psalm100 ago
I've never watched American Dad. Someone else mentioned that. Again, I gave specific examples above. Address them.
JamesHowardCrow ago
I did, they all end with the pedophile being depicted as creepy
markrod420 ago
Lol you are reading too much into it. It's an adult cartoon. It's adult humor. That means it is always going to border on the offensive and inappropriate. At times this will inevitably lead to 911 jokes, pedophile jokes, rape jokes, other dark humor. That does not mean it is normalizing pedophilia. In fact if pedophilia was normal they wouldn't be able to use it in their jokes because thats not how adult cartoons work. They are offensive and shocking. The fact that pedophilia is used as humor in adult cartoons is if anything an indication that it is not normal in our society or else it wouldn't be funny when used in dark humor.
Psalm100 ago
"The fact that pedophilia is used as humor in adult cartoons is if anything an indication that it is not normal in our society or else it wouldn't be funny when used in dark humor."
I don't know if I want to take the time to address all the untrue things in what you've written here. For now I'll just point to this sentence, in which you essentially say that pedophilia can be a matter for jokes.
markrod420 ago
Anything can be a matter for jokes if you have a brain. I find that stupid people can't laugh at dark humor because they are too weak minded to separate from the emotion of the literal idea to enjoy the cleverness and shocking nature of the joke.
Psalm100 ago
Many people just understand the concept of stopping oneself appropriately. Like stopping at two pieces of pizza. Spiritual obesity is a real problem in our land today. People who just want more and more, the equivalent of having multiple pizzas and burgers for dinner. It is a good thing to be able to get a grip on yourself, and not be mastered by things.
JamesHowardCrow ago
You should look into gallow humor. It might make you a lil less of a miserable twat....
Have you met anyone who was the victim of child sex abuse? Many react like Milo and use humor as a coping mechanism
Psalm100 ago
You shouldn't make false statements. Of course I know what gallows humor is. I came from an abusive family and when I was young engaged in quite a bit of it. But NOTHING like this. There might very well be REAL gallows humor in this show, but the instances of cartoon child pornography in this show aren't that. Calling it "gallows humor" or "satire" is just to make excuses for it.
And while true "gallows humor" can be a coping mechanism, it's like serious drug use. If it keeps you from death, it's better than that, but it's destructive in and of itself. After so many years of it, I saw what it was doing to my life. But again, in portraying sex acts by children, that's not gallows humor.
I was also a victim of child sex abuse, and I've met many other victims. As we all know, some victims go on to be perpetrators as well, and likely most perpetrators were victims at some point too. The victims who are also perpetrators tend to be the people who can find child sexual abuse to be funny entertainment, and to support this show and ones like it is to support them.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Soooooo 99% of the country has the wrong definition of gallows humor then?
If you are looking for the line between dark comedy and actual darkness you would have better luck with something like The Neon Demon or Eraserhead than a lazy animated network comedy aimed squarely at the lowest common denominator....
EDIT: Shoot even Rick and Morty is infinitely darker than family guy
Psalm100 ago
99% of the country doesn't have your definition of gallows humor.
JamesHowardCrow ago
No, 99% of the country is fine with family guy -
Proof= It is still on NETWORK TV with mainstream companies advertising during the show.
Psalm100 ago
That's a fake statistic and you know it. Cite your source if it isn't. First, do you really think anywhere near 99% of the country even knows it exists, meaning what its content is like? Then among those who do know of it, a great many people, even among those who don't identify as Christian, think it's terrible, but also for any number of reasons they think there's little to nothing that can be done about it.
JamesHowardCrow ago
I would say 99% are fine enough with it to mind their own business wouldn't you?
It is a fringe belief. Coca-Cola and Proctor and Gamble advertise on family guy; they wouldn't if 3 million people (under 1%) were raising a fuss about it.
Psalm100 ago
No, I wouldn't. You said "fine with it," which means being aware of the content and not at all disapproving of it. Now you say they're "fine enough with it to mind their own business" which isn't the same thing at all. Being "fine with it" and "not being fine with it," but not knowing what you can really do about it are two different things. In terms of psychology, which I agree with to some extent, the show is built on blatant sociopathy. Sociopathy is the whole point and punch line, the theme of the show, and it's simply not in any way appealing to most people. Young people have been proven to be narcissistic, which is closely related to sociopathy, so that's one reason why Family Guy likely appeal to many of them. In spiritual terms, the show is blatantly Satanic in outlook, and you don't need to be a Christian to see that.
JamesHowardCrow ago
You know the 1980's comedy of bill murray and co was considered narcissistic too right? Standards change, especially with the one upping comedy demands. just look at the evolution of the gross out comedy starting with Animal house.
rwb ago
I will watch a few minutes of South Park or Family Guy here and there, clinically, to have a more informed world view of what people are exposing themselves to. One scene on South Park had the teacher ask the sex ed. class which positions they were aware of. Five were named by different kids. Two I knew, and the other three I had to look up in the Urban Dictionary. They described unspeakable acts involving two people and excrement. I have seen things just as bad on Family Guy. I'm no prude, but the producers of these shows and those that run the government agencies that have deregulated TV/obscenity laws need serious prison time by my reckoning, for exposing impressionable minds to the worst things man can imagine.
Psalm100 ago
Please see my latest edit. It describes some pedophilia "jokes" on FG.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Do any of those jokes make the pedophile out to be anything but a weird creep?
Psalm100 ago
You have the answer to that. The show is sharing pedophile-themed jokes with its viewers.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Do nazi themed jokes support nazis?
Like most religious fanatics you seem to have difficulty distinguishing depicting something from endorsing it....
Psalm100 ago
The smear tactics aside, you're falsely separating depiction and endorsement. It all depends on the presentation. People get off on the fact that it's a baby saying and doing these things. That's a part of it, and that's what's the matter with it, whether someone is willing to admit that or not.
JamesHowardCrow ago
People don't "get off" they find it funny because it is a role reversal. Kinda like John Goodman in King Ralf
Psalm100 ago
Like I said, what's the appeal of laughing about Michael Hutchence's death, and teaching young people especially to be callous like that? Just to be clear, since you're so intent on attacking me personally, I wasn't any sort of fan of Michael Hutchence. I liked a few INXS songs way back when, but I liked many popular songs at the time. The point is treating someone's death that way, that it's merely nothing more than a punchline.
JamesHowardCrow ago
The point is to produce 20+ episodes of a show as quickly and cheaply as possible. Having been in a very similar writers room I can tell you right now what happened.
One writer either really likes or really hates INXS and came up with a joke about it. Everyone else either thought it was passable or just really wanted to go home.
markrod420 ago
These are adult television shows. For adults. If impressionable minds are watching these shows its because of poor parenting and it's really not the fault of the shows. Adult humor is fantastic and I would never want to see it taken off the air. You don't like your kids watching it then raise your fucking kids you loser. Don't try to take it away from everyone else just because you are a prude who doesn't take the time to know what their kids are watching.
rwb ago
The definition of a loser is someone justifying shows that openly allude to defecating in someone's mouth being shown to kids during the day on MTV or Much Music while the parents are off doing their own thing. Further, if you find that kind of humor fantastic, you have really bad taste. It's everyone's fault, the producers for making it, the networks for showing it, you for consuming it, and the rest of us for not marching on Hollywood and D.C. with pitchforks.
markrod420 ago
Lol. Weak minded people can't handle dark humor. To the extent that you think we should be killing people over dark humor. You are very weak minded.
rwb ago
On the contrary, real strength is knowing there are certain boundaries that should not be transgressed, in comedy, cartoons, books, movies, whatever, like the one I just described. Look man, I'm 51, and I've seen it all. My opinions have changed drastically over the years. Here's wisdom. It's far more difficult to write clean comedy, and those that can do it have great minds. Really dark humor is a cop out, a shortcut for the weak minded writer. Anyone can do it, just say or portray something so outrageous that the nervous shock response will be triggered in the listener/viewer. The mechanism that usually causes one to laugh at an outrageous joke is the subconscience telling you that you really should not be laughing, but rather heading for the door.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Gallows humor has been a thing since the invention of writing if your life is nice enough not to need it good for you- Now stop trying to censor comedy!
Psalm100 ago
I'll do that, too. That's how I ended up watching a few episodes of Family Guy. As I said, I wouldn't even want to describe the sexual things I saw on those three episodes that involved children. It was graphic content that would be too graphic for live action television even if the behavior just involved adults, much less children.
Family Guy and South Park are like cartoon pornography.
And I recall that some of the commercials I saw while Family Guy was on were child-focused, with children in them. One ad had children on skateboards. That shows they know what they're target audience is.
JamesHowardCrow ago
"It was graphic content that would be too graphic for live action television even if the behavior just involved adults, much less children."
CONGRATS you are starting to understand where things fall on the real to pretend scale!
Psalm100 ago
Rationalization. By your standards, even a non-fiction book is "pretend" too.
JamesHowardCrow ago
No those things actually happened. Your problem seems to be much more severe than I thought.
Psalm100 ago
No, the problem is with you but you don't see it. You missed the point. You defined something as real if only if actual live people were involved. A book is mere print.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Live action people makes it more realistic but by no means real. SEEK HELP!
We can accept an animated character doing things that are physically impossible (loony toons) because animation isn't realistic.
Psalm100 ago
Was it real when Family Guy joked about the death of Michael Hutchence? That was in one episode I saw, the Stewie character saying to the dog, "you're going all Michael Hutchence on me" when the dog is being strangled.
JamesHowardCrow ago
No it was a lazy joke...Had they depicted the scene in live action and advertised specifically to get children to watch you would have an argument that they were going for realism...
Psalm100 ago
No, they treated a person's real death as a joke, a horrible thing to do. As I said, blatant sociopathy and Satanism.
JamesHowardCrow ago
Now you are confusing "things that are in bad taste" with satanism....Do you think wearing white after labor day honors the lord of darkness?
SayWhatNOWAY ago
Agreed!