YOU ASK:Do you think that the mainstream media will go ahead and report honestly on this?ANSWER: Of course not. They’ll portray this in the same negative light that they portray ALL NEWS that doesn’t fit the progressive agenda. I ASK YOU: Do you think the mainstream media is gaining credibility these days? Do you ever read the TRUTH in the user comments on social media, and all over mainstream media’s own web pages? Are you aware of the growing public DISDAIN and MOCKERY of mainstream media, due to MSM’s lame and easily debunked FALSE REPORTING, and the reverse effect of their constant cries of “fake news,” and MSM's UNPRECEDENTED BEHAVIOR of LITERALLY CRYING TEARS on national "news," over EVERY SINGLE WORD that doesn’t fit the progressive future they believed they had already won, thanks to their failed hero MSM journalists, who got the 2016 election COMPLETELY WRONG?
YOU ASK:Do you think you’re going to be able to reach anybody else that might not be awake to this subject matter, through the mainstream media?ANSWER: YES. Every attempt by MSM, to SUPPRESS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE of human rights violations will be brought to light, and documented - taking such things out of the tired old “conspiracy theory” box, and mainstreaming them into legitimate dinner table discussions.
YOU CLAIM, WITH CONFIDENCE:The people that understand that the mainstream media is garbage propaganda, well, they’re already awake, they’re already aware.WRONG - some of my closest relatives are NOT YET completely awake or aware. People are far more likely to BELIEVE what they SEE with their own eyes, and HEAR with their own ears, and every bit of garbage propaganda served up by the MSM will serve as another PRIMARY SOURCE of controlled opposition to TRUTH, and to pizzagate.
YOU SUGGEST: that pizzagate protesters are unwittingly placing themselves in an EXTREMELY DANGEROUS situation, to the point of likening them to the VICTIMS of serial killer/cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer, VICTIMS of Islamic terrorist executioners, and jumping into a lion pit AT THE ZOO (you couldn't have been more literal than THAT obvious swipe at pizzagate believers), wearing a suit of steak.” These suggestions are RIDICULOUSLY EXTREME. You make sweeping assumptions that EVERYONE who supports this protest is utterly gullible, that ALL people in government and LE are hopelessly corrupt and complicit.
YOU USE FAKE PHOTOSHOPPED IMAGES that serve to propagate the absolute WORST OF THE FALSE MESSAGING used AGAINST pizzagate.
DO HUMANITY A FAVOR. OUT your mole,the shill in the midst, you say that you have on good authority. You’ll NEVER come up with enough irrefutable evidence, so JUST DO IT with the circumstantial evidence you have.
Yes, I am aware that the MSM is falling rapidly. Unfortunately we are STILL outnumbered by the sleeping sheep Do a Google search for Pizzagate, and skim every single PG article that you see. There are still millions of people that believe every single word the MSM shoves in our faces. This event will be used for propaganda purposes, if they report on it at all. The only people paying attention to the independent media will be people that are already aware of what is going on in this world.
The MSM reporting on these protests will be the same exact way that they have reported on anything PG related before. They will not report it honesty. They will paint everyone at the marches as crazy right wing conspiracy theorists that are harassing poor Comet Ping Pong. They will stray away from the real story. Again, the only people that will listen to alt-media on this subject are people that are very clearly aware of the situation. Do you think that uncle Jim will flip CNN and see a story of a bunch of whacko dangerous conspiracy theorists and say, "GUYS- WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE!!" ? The answer is no. This is preaching to the choir.
Do you think that the media will allow us to take this subject out of the conspiracy theory box, or do you think they will control the narrative? Do you think they will air interviews with reasonable people providing facts, or do you think they will find the handful of over the top people screaming "FUCK THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" ? We all know how the media behaves, and at least half, if not more, of the people in this country still believe the MSM narrative. Millions of programmed people not only voted for Hillary, but did so with great enthusiasm. They won't suppress the protest, they will twist it to meet their end goal, which is to discredit the entire investigation, and anyone even saying the words Pizzagate or Human Trafficking. I believe they will use the worst of us to deliver the message they want to hear. This is an emotional subject. When people get overly emotional, they say and do stupid things. It will be very easy to manipulate people into saying over the top things for their sound bytes. Just look at some of the responses I am getting. People are haranguing me because I believe that we should exercise caution, and think things out clearly prior to acting. This is not a religion, and has nothing to do with politics, but everyone is responding like I am a part of the trafficking ring. It is ridiculous, disrespectful, and does nothing to further the cause.
This bothers me. We all believe there is a government wide international trafficking ring. We believe that people in the highest levels of government, public and shadow, are involved. We also have clear evidence that they pay protesters, controlled opposition, overthrow entire governments, perpetrate false flags, and maim, murder, and rape on a regular basis. This same group has UNLIMITED resources. They have the man power, the technological superiority, all of covert and overt law enforcement, all of the alphabet agencies, double agents, undercover agents, and the full support and backing of ultra rich oligarchs and political operatives. Why are people acting like it is so incredibly far fetched that they would use this immense power to take down their opponents, which is US? Why are people acting as if they can just walk around publicly, at the epicenter of evil, and these people will not use it against us? We know they murder, gangstalk, harass, and destroy peoples lives. We know that they are willing to MURDER CHILDREN, yet we shouldn't believe that they will come after us? How many false flags take place on a regular basis? You also did not understand my metaphor. I was not taking a swipe at anyone, and I fully believe that PG i not only real, but WORSE than what we already understand. My metaphor was trying to explain that we are going to protesting, and asking the same people that are implicated in PG, and asking them to do something about it.It is NOT EXTREME. Look around at the world we live in. These people murder MILLIONS of people worldwide. If they deem us to be enemies, they will treat us as such. And yes, I believe that most people working for the fed are NOT on our side. I don't think people are gullible, I believe they are doing two things; thinking with their emotions, and underestimating the evil controllers and what they are capable of. If Seth Rich were still alive, I am sure he would agree with me. Same goes for Michael Hastings and every other person that has died at their hands.
The images used in the video are strictly visual aids. Quit assuming that I "don't believe".
Like I said in the video, I am not going to slander someone else if I am not sure. I know that a lot of people in the truth community love to throw the term shill around without it being backed up by evidence, but that is not how I operate. Remember David Seaman? Slammed by the MSM AND people in the truth community on the same day. That leads me to question those people more than David. Here is what I can tell you. Ask yourself these questions.
Who are the people organizing the protests? Are they well known? Have they been in this community for a long time? Are they who they say they are? What would the MSM say if they saw their social media? Does anything about these people sound fishy? WHO are these people?
In a situation that is this big, this evil, and this corrupt... you had better be careful of who you jump into bed with. Go research some of the people surrounding these protests. If you don't think the powers that be are already planning for counter-measures, then you might want to slow down and look at the situation a bit more.
Honestly, I could care less if you or anyone else attends. I already made my concerns known. If you guys want to trash me and call me a shill, go ahead. My thoughts on this are not extreme, they are not far-fetched, and if people would think less with their emotions, and more with logic they might see that I make valid points.
I think the better strategy would be to keep digging. Educate people on a person to person basis. Reach out to friends and family that work within the government, and try to find the good guys. Share George Webb's work with others. It is well sourced and very hard to refute. Work within your sphere, and the more people that we bring in using this tactic, the more dots that can connect, and the more effective we will be. I just do not see this as being an effective route. We are currently witnessing a governmental "civil war." We need to find the people that are on OUR SIDE, and get them into the fold.
I hope I am wrong, I hope it goes off without a hitch and everyone stays safe.I hope that it brings some positive attention to PG. I fully believe that at the least, this event will be used against us. The media will use this to push people even further from the truth, if they cover it at all. I will be back after both of these events, and we can compare notes, and see what the results are.
Quit surmising, that I'm assuming you don't believe. I believe, that you believe. I even believe that you care about attendance, despite your words,Honestly, I could care less if you or anyone else attends. Nothing says I CARE like 7400+ words, specifically intended to discourage attendance, on this sub alone.
You make a lot of valid points that should be seriously and thoughtfully considered. I say that with sincerity. You would probably get a far more positive overall response if you didn't come across as annoyingly condescending and arrogant. Nobody is 100% correct or 100% wrong here. The collective everyone who is responding, when they disagree with you, is NOT accusing you of being a shill. Much less, accusing you of being part of the trafficking ring, and your suggesting such a thing is ridiculous, disrespectful, and does nothing to further the cause.
I'll say this again - You make a LOT of VALID points that should be seriously and thoughtfully considered. One of those valid points you make, you might want to keep in mind as you type - This is an emotional subject. When people get overly emotional, they say and do stupid things.
For the sake of logic and fairness - you beg us to be careful, use caution, not trust anyone, so - at least give me SOME credit, for doubting and questioning YOU. FFS, you're a writer, with your own online forum, so you already KNOW these things.
You are right, I do care. I care about individuals, children, and humanity. I care about this topic quite a bit. I do not want to see people needlessly putting themselves and others in harms way. It is a massive risk, for very little return, and even a negative return. My words are not about me, but I feel as if SOMEONE needs to be questioning all of these protests springing out of nowhere, hosted by relatively unknown people in such a short time span.
My Youtube channel has been FLOODED with people calling me a shill and a pedophile, it is disgusting. I have spent the last 20+ years of my life educating those around me, getting people to question 9/11, harping about government surveillance, and getting people to question the left right paradigm. I was under the impression that being individuals that are "awake", we would question our actions, question the motives of others, and to know our enemy. Strategy is important. If Sun Tzu knew of our plan, he would laugh.
If we all believe there is a massive global human trafficking ring, backed up by a massive black budget, being undertaken by some of the most heavily armed and resource rich individuals and organizations, why do we think walking around downtown DC is going to be a safe venture? These people do this stuff for FUN! What lengths do you think they will go to stop the general public from being informed? What will they be willing to do to stop any person or movement from getting in their way? If they deem us a threat, they will treat us as such.
I have seen several people discussing agent provocateurs as being Soros paid actors.... they exist...but the people we REALLY need to worry about are the CIA-Dyncorp-FBI scumbags that are operating this ring. They are dangerous murderous criminals that WILL NOT STOP if they think we are a threat. They will kill us, our friends, our relatives, and destroy everything around us.
I feel as though everyone is ignoring he grave reality of the situation. I don't think people are thinking this through. If this were a battlefield, we would lose. This is not a fight that we take on the ground. This is a war of information, and all we are doing is feeding them more slanderous headlines. Why is the new hashtag #pedogate? Because the media twisted #pizzagate out from under us. Whoever decided that this event should be marketed using "#PizzaGate" on all of the literature clearly did not think it through. Just that alone is going to get swallowed up like a tasty snack by he media. I suggest revisiting the thread on the front page, "Why Googling Pizzagate is useless."
If I sound negative while typing, it is not my intent. I guess I am just taken aback at how the "truth" community has turned into a religion, and anyone that does not follow the popular narrative is assaulted full force. Look at what these people did to Seaman, with zero evidence. There is more infighting than outfighting at this point. It is ridiculous, and this is why we are still under the boot of our oppressors. I never in my life thought that someone would dare call me a pedo, yet it is coming from my people. Sad. I have also been called a "coward" and a "pussy" like I am declining a cigarette in Jr. high school. There is a massive difference between "cowardly" and "calculated."
I will stand by my analysis of these protests. No good will come of it. The media is going to control the narrative, and it is potentially very dangerous and ill-advised. If the media does cover it to any extent, it will be used to alienate anyone that is not in the know. Any alt-media coverage will be preaching to the choir. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so. I am always happy to look at new evidence, and change my stance in light of it.
You know what the most ironic part of all of this is? Not only are people protesting TO the very people they are protesting AGAINST, but they are actually purchasing free speech permits in order to be allowed to exercise their constitutional rights, and putting more money into the machines pockets.
Hey, I'm sorry to hear you're getting all the insults and accusations. Good reply, much the same message, different delivery, so thanks for that. I assure you, I'm definitely seeing the cons. I hope this turns out well for this community and for the big picture. We'll see.
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rooting4redpillers ago
YOU ASK: Do you think that the mainstream media will go ahead and report honestly on this? ANSWER: Of course not. They’ll portray this in the same negative light that they portray ALL NEWS that doesn’t fit the progressive agenda. I ASK YOU: Do you think the mainstream media is gaining credibility these days? Do you ever read the TRUTH in the user comments on social media, and all over mainstream media’s own web pages? Are you aware of the growing public DISDAIN and MOCKERY of mainstream media, due to MSM’s lame and easily debunked FALSE REPORTING, and the reverse effect of their constant cries of “fake news,” and MSM's UNPRECEDENTED BEHAVIOR of LITERALLY CRYING TEARS on national "news," over EVERY SINGLE WORD that doesn’t fit the progressive future they believed they had already won, thanks to their failed hero MSM journalists, who got the 2016 election COMPLETELY WRONG?
YOU ASK: Do you think you’re going to be able to reach anybody else that might not be awake to this subject matter, through the mainstream media? ANSWER: YES. Every attempt by MSM, to SUPPRESS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE of human rights violations will be brought to light, and documented - taking such things out of the tired old “conspiracy theory” box, and mainstreaming them into legitimate dinner table discussions.
YOU CLAIM, WITH CONFIDENCE: The people that understand that the mainstream media is garbage propaganda, well, they’re already awake, they’re already aware. WRONG - some of my closest relatives are NOT YET completely awake or aware. People are far more likely to BELIEVE what they SEE with their own eyes, and HEAR with their own ears, and every bit of garbage propaganda served up by the MSM will serve as another PRIMARY SOURCE of controlled opposition to TRUTH, and to pizzagate.
YOU SUGGEST: that pizzagate protesters are unwittingly placing themselves in an EXTREMELY DANGEROUS situation, to the point of likening them to the VICTIMS of serial killer/cannibal Jeffrey Dahmer, VICTIMS of Islamic terrorist executioners, and jumping into a lion pit AT THE ZOO (you couldn't have been more literal than THAT obvious swipe at pizzagate believers), wearing a suit of steak.” These suggestions are RIDICULOUSLY EXTREME. You make sweeping assumptions that EVERYONE who supports this protest is utterly gullible, that ALL people in government and LE are hopelessly corrupt and complicit.
YOU USE FAKE PHOTOSHOPPED IMAGES that serve to propagate the absolute WORST OF THE FALSE MESSAGING used AGAINST pizzagate.
DO HUMANITY A FAVOR. OUT your mole, the shill in the midst, you say that you have on good authority. You’ll NEVER come up with enough irrefutable evidence, so JUST DO IT with the circumstantial evidence you have.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
Yes, I am aware that the MSM is falling rapidly. Unfortunately we are STILL outnumbered by the sleeping sheep Do a Google search for Pizzagate, and skim every single PG article that you see. There are still millions of people that believe every single word the MSM shoves in our faces. This event will be used for propaganda purposes, if they report on it at all. The only people paying attention to the independent media will be people that are already aware of what is going on in this world.
The MSM reporting on these protests will be the same exact way that they have reported on anything PG related before. They will not report it honesty. They will paint everyone at the marches as crazy right wing conspiracy theorists that are harassing poor Comet Ping Pong. They will stray away from the real story. Again, the only people that will listen to alt-media on this subject are people that are very clearly aware of the situation. Do you think that uncle Jim will flip CNN and see a story of a bunch of whacko dangerous conspiracy theorists and say, "GUYS- WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE!!" ? The answer is no. This is preaching to the choir.
Do you think that the media will allow us to take this subject out of the conspiracy theory box, or do you think they will control the narrative? Do you think they will air interviews with reasonable people providing facts, or do you think they will find the handful of over the top people screaming "FUCK THE NEW WORLD ORDER!" ? We all know how the media behaves, and at least half, if not more, of the people in this country still believe the MSM narrative. Millions of programmed people not only voted for Hillary, but did so with great enthusiasm. They won't suppress the protest, they will twist it to meet their end goal, which is to discredit the entire investigation, and anyone even saying the words Pizzagate or Human Trafficking. I believe they will use the worst of us to deliver the message they want to hear. This is an emotional subject. When people get overly emotional, they say and do stupid things. It will be very easy to manipulate people into saying over the top things for their sound bytes. Just look at some of the responses I am getting. People are haranguing me because I believe that we should exercise caution, and think things out clearly prior to acting. This is not a religion, and has nothing to do with politics, but everyone is responding like I am a part of the trafficking ring. It is ridiculous, disrespectful, and does nothing to further the cause.
This bothers me. We all believe there is a government wide international trafficking ring. We believe that people in the highest levels of government, public and shadow, are involved. We also have clear evidence that they pay protesters, controlled opposition, overthrow entire governments, perpetrate false flags, and maim, murder, and rape on a regular basis. This same group has UNLIMITED resources. They have the man power, the technological superiority, all of covert and overt law enforcement, all of the alphabet agencies, double agents, undercover agents, and the full support and backing of ultra rich oligarchs and political operatives. Why are people acting like it is so incredibly far fetched that they would use this immense power to take down their opponents, which is US? Why are people acting as if they can just walk around publicly, at the epicenter of evil, and these people will not use it against us? We know they murder, gangstalk, harass, and destroy peoples lives. We know that they are willing to MURDER CHILDREN, yet we shouldn't believe that they will come after us? How many false flags take place on a regular basis? You also did not understand my metaphor. I was not taking a swipe at anyone, and I fully believe that PG i not only real, but WORSE than what we already understand. My metaphor was trying to explain that we are going to protesting, and asking the same people that are implicated in PG, and asking them to do something about it.It is NOT EXTREME. Look around at the world we live in. These people murder MILLIONS of people worldwide. If they deem us to be enemies, they will treat us as such. And yes, I believe that most people working for the fed are NOT on our side. I don't think people are gullible, I believe they are doing two things; thinking with their emotions, and underestimating the evil controllers and what they are capable of. If Seth Rich were still alive, I am sure he would agree with me. Same goes for Michael Hastings and every other person that has died at their hands.
The images used in the video are strictly visual aids. Quit assuming that I "don't believe".
Like I said in the video, I am not going to slander someone else if I am not sure. I know that a lot of people in the truth community love to throw the term shill around without it being backed up by evidence, but that is not how I operate. Remember David Seaman? Slammed by the MSM AND people in the truth community on the same day. That leads me to question those people more than David. Here is what I can tell you. Ask yourself these questions.
Who are the people organizing the protests? Are they well known? Have they been in this community for a long time? Are they who they say they are? What would the MSM say if they saw their social media? Does anything about these people sound fishy? WHO are these people?
In a situation that is this big, this evil, and this corrupt... you had better be careful of who you jump into bed with. Go research some of the people surrounding these protests. If you don't think the powers that be are already planning for counter-measures, then you might want to slow down and look at the situation a bit more.
Honestly, I could care less if you or anyone else attends. I already made my concerns known. If you guys want to trash me and call me a shill, go ahead. My thoughts on this are not extreme, they are not far-fetched, and if people would think less with their emotions, and more with logic they might see that I make valid points.
I think the better strategy would be to keep digging. Educate people on a person to person basis. Reach out to friends and family that work within the government, and try to find the good guys. Share George Webb's work with others. It is well sourced and very hard to refute. Work within your sphere, and the more people that we bring in using this tactic, the more dots that can connect, and the more effective we will be. I just do not see this as being an effective route. We are currently witnessing a governmental "civil war." We need to find the people that are on OUR SIDE, and get them into the fold.
I hope I am wrong, I hope it goes off without a hitch and everyone stays safe.I hope that it brings some positive attention to PG. I fully believe that at the least, this event will be used against us. The media will use this to push people even further from the truth, if they cover it at all. I will be back after both of these events, and we can compare notes, and see what the results are.
rooting4redpillers ago
Quit surmising, that I'm assuming you don't believe. I believe, that you believe. I even believe that you care about attendance, despite your words, Honestly, I could care less if you or anyone else attends. Nothing says I CARE like 7400+ words, specifically intended to discourage attendance, on this sub alone.
You make a lot of valid points that should be seriously and thoughtfully considered. I say that with sincerity. You would probably get a far more positive overall response if you didn't come across as annoyingly condescending and arrogant. Nobody is 100% correct or 100% wrong here. The collective everyone who is responding, when they disagree with you, is NOT accusing you of being a shill. Much less, accusing you of being part of the trafficking ring, and your suggesting such a thing is ridiculous, disrespectful, and does nothing to further the cause.
I'll say this again - You make a LOT of VALID points that should be seriously and thoughtfully considered. One of those valid points you make, you might want to keep in mind as you type - This is an emotional subject. When people get overly emotional, they say and do stupid things.
For the sake of logic and fairness - you beg us to be careful, use caution, not trust anyone, so - at least give me SOME credit, for doubting and questioning YOU. FFS, you're a writer, with your own online forum, so you already KNOW these things.
WolvesAndSheeple ago
You are right, I do care. I care about individuals, children, and humanity. I care about this topic quite a bit. I do not want to see people needlessly putting themselves and others in harms way. It is a massive risk, for very little return, and even a negative return. My words are not about me, but I feel as if SOMEONE needs to be questioning all of these protests springing out of nowhere, hosted by relatively unknown people in such a short time span.
My Youtube channel has been FLOODED with people calling me a shill and a pedophile, it is disgusting. I have spent the last 20+ years of my life educating those around me, getting people to question 9/11, harping about government surveillance, and getting people to question the left right paradigm. I was under the impression that being individuals that are "awake", we would question our actions, question the motives of others, and to know our enemy. Strategy is important. If Sun Tzu knew of our plan, he would laugh.
If we all believe there is a massive global human trafficking ring, backed up by a massive black budget, being undertaken by some of the most heavily armed and resource rich individuals and organizations, why do we think walking around downtown DC is going to be a safe venture? These people do this stuff for FUN! What lengths do you think they will go to stop the general public from being informed? What will they be willing to do to stop any person or movement from getting in their way? If they deem us a threat, they will treat us as such.
I have seen several people discussing agent provocateurs as being Soros paid actors.... they exist...but the people we REALLY need to worry about are the CIA-Dyncorp-FBI scumbags that are operating this ring. They are dangerous murderous criminals that WILL NOT STOP if they think we are a threat. They will kill us, our friends, our relatives, and destroy everything around us.
I feel as though everyone is ignoring he grave reality of the situation. I don't think people are thinking this through. If this were a battlefield, we would lose. This is not a fight that we take on the ground. This is a war of information, and all we are doing is feeding them more slanderous headlines. Why is the new hashtag #pedogate? Because the media twisted #pizzagate out from under us. Whoever decided that this event should be marketed using "#PizzaGate" on all of the literature clearly did not think it through. Just that alone is going to get swallowed up like a tasty snack by he media. I suggest revisiting the thread on the front page, "Why Googling Pizzagate is useless."
If I sound negative while typing, it is not my intent. I guess I am just taken aback at how the "truth" community has turned into a religion, and anyone that does not follow the popular narrative is assaulted full force. Look at what these people did to Seaman, with zero evidence. There is more infighting than outfighting at this point. It is ridiculous, and this is why we are still under the boot of our oppressors. I never in my life thought that someone would dare call me a pedo, yet it is coming from my people. Sad. I have also been called a "coward" and a "pussy" like I am declining a cigarette in Jr. high school. There is a massive difference between "cowardly" and "calculated."
I will stand by my analysis of these protests. No good will come of it. The media is going to control the narrative, and it is potentially very dangerous and ill-advised. If the media does cover it to any extent, it will be used to alienate anyone that is not in the know. Any alt-media coverage will be preaching to the choir. I hope I am wrong, but I don't think so. I am always happy to look at new evidence, and change my stance in light of it.
You know what the most ironic part of all of this is? Not only are people protesting TO the very people they are protesting AGAINST, but they are actually purchasing free speech permits in order to be allowed to exercise their constitutional rights, and putting more money into the machines pockets.
rooting4redpillers ago
Hey, I'm sorry to hear you're getting all the insults and accusations. Good reply, much the same message, different delivery, so thanks for that. I assure you, I'm definitely seeing the cons. I hope this turns out well for this community and for the big picture. We'll see.