Absolutely and this also applies to WikiLeaks and their Vault 7 files. If there is anything in the remaining 99% that they're currently sitting on that could save the life or suffering of even one child, then they are morally obligated to release the evidence immediately. This is one of the reasons why I am dubious about WL and the Vault 7 leaks!
100% agree. This is a matter of right and wrong and doing the right thing. These horrible acts should have been exposed long time ago. Too much time has gone, and every passing day many will suffer the consequences of not acting.
Exactly, that clearly means their intentions arent to help everyone. They are doing it for the attentions, and if they have these immature intentions than I have trouble trusting their information.
Wikileaks has said this a million times. They publish as soon as the data is ready to be published. You can't just publish extracted raw data in a way that the general public can reasonably see it. It needs to be interfaced. With these CIA leaks, they HAVE to do redactions to keep agents from being assassinated. They HAVE to keep weaponized code from being published. Publishing extracted data in a responsible way (especially CIA data) does not happen overnight. Each new release is a logistical puzzle.
Are we sure we have seen all leaked Podesta emails, i.e. is that leak complete?
Is it coincidence that JP appears to begin using that gmail address intensively only after McCann's disappearance?
Could it be that the Podesta leaks are in fact a limited hang out gone wrong, meant to expose DNC collusion and CF corruption but NOT the pedocult, which was only exposed through intense mass online scrutiny of email codes and the Comet connection?
The little JA and Wikileaks have commented on 'pizzagate' does suggest they were themselves caught off guard by it.
Added to the mass media censorship/blackout (unlike any other leaks) I'd say this was indeed an unintended exposure, with the real damaging info scrubbed beforehand.
So Wikileaks, compromised or not, could possibly NEVER have been on our side. Pizzagate was an accident because they never saw us coming.
I recall FBIAnon talking about how they are saving very recent emails after someone asked why they all ended in March or May 2016. I am not 100% sure on this though.
I think the Wikileaks release of the Clinton emails was to control the release because they were imminent coming from the FBI because of the FOIA requests. And also I think Wikileaks was a diversion from the 11 million pages of CIA documents recently released;
And the Spirit Cooking email that really got the investigation going might have been a diversion from the Rothschild hack that happened on Nov. 1, 2016
Anonymous has hacked the Bradley Foundation and releases 30GB of documents;
Now why would the 250K CIA documents be just as important if not more than the pizzagate related ones?...its because they show the potential for the human mind and how powerful humans really are...
The CIA would use psychics to focus on and describe a time and location inside a sealed envelope. They tried to trick a psychic by making the location Mars and the time a Million years ago. This is the result.
I think this is plausible but unlikely. They wouldn't gamble with something like pizzagate that has such potential to collapse their system and topple their dominion. They know that there are many highly intelligent and motivated people in the public (inc ex intel analysts etc) who are tirelessly looking for ways to undermine and sabotage their endeavours. By purposely releasing emails with codified language therein but with the hope that no one would notice seems too farfetched. Moreover if they had access to literally hundreds of thousands of emails from HRC, surely in existence there is even more incriminating evidence to illustrate party collusion and CF corruption?
You know, there's likely whole bunch of different motives at play. It's a good bet that there are people working in the intelligence agencies who are as horrified as we are by what their agencies are up to.
But there is obviously a big cat and mouse game for power going on and it has nothing to do with protecting our children or for the good of humanity.
i really believe that the only chance we have for real change, is to red pill the rest of America and get people out marching in the streets like South Korea.
We need to carve a new path going forward but unfort. I have no idea what that might be.
A person mentioned this in another thread, and I think he's right, that perhaps all of us need to take responsibility for the welfare of all the children. The watch dogs and checks and balances that are in place now are so corrupt and so whatever solution we find, we need everything to be out in open with 100% transparency. Each child has to be accounted for.
I have been thinking this exact thing for a while now - in that the pizzagate stuff was never meant to be picked up upon. I feel like they only released a limited number of emails and thought they had "scrubbed" all really incriminating ones related to the pedocult, but then there were a few still left in there with the code words.
disagree with this assumption, you are thinking emotionally, releasing everything at once wouldnt necessarily increase the chance of winning this fight. if you really want to save the most children you have to think logically and resist the urge to satisfy your egos need for virtue signalling, you have to be willing to sacrifice some to save more when the morally pure position will cause countless more children to suffer.
This is correct. I'm reminded of Schindler's list. Schindler wanted to save the most lives, and in the course of executing his strategy, he often had to stand by while evil acts were committed and even give moral support to the wrongdoers. Ultimately he was successful and saved far more people than he would have if he had come out immediately with everything he had.
I'm not saying I know what Wikileaks's reasons are for handling things they way they are -- it's possible that they are greedy or foolish -- but teethkicker is right. Wikileaks's behavior can be reconciled with a Schindleresque plan to do the most good in the long term.
Saving or protecting the children is very high on the list of things that need to be done in this world if not the highest!
The thing is everything needs to be changed or many things starting with the way government is set up actually we don't need one PARADIGM SHIFT think BIGGER and just arresting some high public figures won't change everything if it's still being controlled by another faction of the "secret "societies" version 2.1 still steering the spaceship through the universe
sounds like a bunch of excuses. wait for more to die now so less can die later? i dont like this logic. its a weak cop-out excuse that sounds like a rationalization for the rape, torture and murder of children.
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abcdefg222 ago
This pisses me off. If you have information that will save the lives of these children you have to speak NOW.
Amino69 ago
Absolutely and this also applies to WikiLeaks and their Vault 7 files. If there is anything in the remaining 99% that they're currently sitting on that could save the life or suffering of even one child, then they are morally obligated to release the evidence immediately. This is one of the reasons why I am dubious about WL and the Vault 7 leaks!
delivery1 ago
100% agree. This is a matter of right and wrong and doing the right thing. These horrible acts should have been exposed long time ago. Too much time has gone, and every passing day many will suffer the consequences of not acting.
MostPostersAreShills ago
Exactly, that clearly means their intentions arent to help everyone. They are doing it for the attentions, and if they have these immature intentions than I have trouble trusting their information.
podesta4prison ago
Wikileaks has said this a million times. They publish as soon as the data is ready to be published. You can't just publish extracted raw data in a way that the general public can reasonably see it. It needs to be interfaced. With these CIA leaks, they HAVE to do redactions to keep agents from being assassinated. They HAVE to keep weaponized code from being published. Publishing extracted data in a responsible way (especially CIA data) does not happen overnight. Each new release is a logistical puzzle.
Singleservename ago
Are we sure we have seen all leaked Podesta emails, i.e. is that leak complete?
Is it coincidence that JP appears to begin using that gmail address intensively only after McCann's disappearance?
Could it be that the Podesta leaks are in fact a limited hang out gone wrong, meant to expose DNC collusion and CF corruption but NOT the pedocult, which was only exposed through intense mass online scrutiny of email codes and the Comet connection?
The little JA and Wikileaks have commented on 'pizzagate' does suggest they were themselves caught off guard by it.
Added to the mass media censorship/blackout (unlike any other leaks) I'd say this was indeed an unintended exposure, with the real damaging info scrubbed beforehand.
So Wikileaks, compromised or not, could possibly NEVER have been on our side. Pizzagate was an accident because they never saw us coming.
party1981 ago
You just blew my mind
carlofusilier ago
I recall FBIAnon talking about how they are saving very recent emails after someone asked why they all ended in March or May 2016. I am not 100% sure on this though.
redditsuckz ago
I think the Wikileaks release of the Clinton emails was to control the release because they were imminent coming from the FBI because of the FOIA requests. And also I think Wikileaks was a diversion from the 11 million pages of CIA documents recently released;
https://that1archive.neocities.org/
And the Spirit Cooking email that really got the investigation going might have been a diversion from the Rothschild hack that happened on Nov. 1, 2016
Anonymous has hacked the Bradley Foundation and releases 30GB of documents;
https://twitter.com/anonymousglobo/status/793602434337767428?lang=en
Wikileaks releases the highly controversial Spirit Cooking Podesta emails 3 days later on Nov. 4th, 2016;
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/794450623404113920?lang=en
Now why would the 250K CIA documents be just as important if not more than the pizzagate related ones?...its because they show the potential for the human mind and how powerful humans really are...
The CIA would use psychics to focus on and describe a time and location inside a sealed envelope. They tried to trick a psychic by making the location Mars and the time a Million years ago. This is the result.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5suxot/the_cia_would_use_psychics_to_focus_on_and/ddi8ugy/
Amino69 ago
I think this is plausible but unlikely. They wouldn't gamble with something like pizzagate that has such potential to collapse their system and topple their dominion. They know that there are many highly intelligent and motivated people in the public (inc ex intel analysts etc) who are tirelessly looking for ways to undermine and sabotage their endeavours. By purposely releasing emails with codified language therein but with the hope that no one would notice seems too farfetched. Moreover if they had access to literally hundreds of thousands of emails from HRC, surely in existence there is even more incriminating evidence to illustrate party collusion and CF corruption?
FICTIONLREALITY ago
Yes yes I like the way you think yeeessss
algernon4peace ago
You know, there's likely whole bunch of different motives at play. It's a good bet that there are people working in the intelligence agencies who are as horrified as we are by what their agencies are up to.
But there is obviously a big cat and mouse game for power going on and it has nothing to do with protecting our children or for the good of humanity.
i really believe that the only chance we have for real change, is to red pill the rest of America and get people out marching in the streets like South Korea.
We need to carve a new path going forward but unfort. I have no idea what that might be.
A person mentioned this in another thread, and I think he's right, that perhaps all of us need to take responsibility for the welfare of all the children. The watch dogs and checks and balances that are in place now are so corrupt and so whatever solution we find, we need everything to be out in open with 100% transparency. Each child has to be accounted for.
FICTIONLREALITY ago
MArch 25th Washington DC protest is a start if you can make it DC Protest 3/25/17
anon_sense ago
I have been thinking this exact thing for a while now - in that the pizzagate stuff was never meant to be picked up upon. I feel like they only released a limited number of emails and thought they had "scrubbed" all really incriminating ones related to the pedocult, but then there were a few still left in there with the code words.
FuckReddit69 ago
agreed. wtf are they waiting for? more children to get raped, tortured and murdered? Makes no sense... unless...
teethkicker ago
disagree with this assumption, you are thinking emotionally, releasing everything at once wouldnt necessarily increase the chance of winning this fight. if you really want to save the most children you have to think logically and resist the urge to satisfy your egos need for virtue signalling, you have to be willing to sacrifice some to save more when the morally pure position will cause countless more children to suffer.
ansipizza ago
This is correct. I'm reminded of Schindler's list. Schindler wanted to save the most lives, and in the course of executing his strategy, he often had to stand by while evil acts were committed and even give moral support to the wrongdoers. Ultimately he was successful and saved far more people than he would have if he had come out immediately with everything he had.
I'm not saying I know what Wikileaks's reasons are for handling things they way they are -- it's possible that they are greedy or foolish -- but teethkicker is right. Wikileaks's behavior can be reconciled with a Schindleresque plan to do the most good in the long term.
FICTIONLREALITY ago
Saving or protecting the children is very high on the list of things that need to be done in this world if not the highest!
The thing is everything needs to be changed or many things starting with the way government is set up actually we don't need one PARADIGM SHIFT think BIGGER and just arresting some high public figures won't change everything if it's still being controlled by another faction of the "secret "societies" version 2.1 still steering the spaceship through the universe
FuckReddit69 ago
sounds like a bunch of excuses. wait for more to die now so less can die later? i dont like this logic. its a weak cop-out excuse that sounds like a rationalization for the rape, torture and murder of children.