https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppMpfVgejuc (Commercial Free Version) Tue, 7 March, 2017
The whole show is quite intriguing as AJ and guests disclose more behind the scenes knowledge and background info about InfoWars itself and also the white/black hat Deep State fight going on right now and the strategy behind the Vault 7 dump.
At about 19:15 "Do you want them to release how Obama, had Michael Hastings blown up?" with Vault 7 style tactics, taking control of his car. AJ states that Michael Hastings was a government agent that "learned it all", his wife's denial on CNN, and that Hastings was ready to turn and disclose to the public what was too horrible even for those who deal in death - "the abuse of children". 20:37 "And so you already see them being arrested by the thousands all over the country..." and not covered by MSM.
33:00 Roger Stone's twitter account is suspended he is on Info Wars with his updates on "The cusp of the greatest political scandal in history" regarding Deep State spying on President Trump.
44:33 - Dr. Steve Piescniak on Vault 7 - "The reason these links were given was to simply take down the CIA."
EDIT: I'd like to add that for those who don't like the messenger AJ because he may have intelligence links himself, I say that if you actually watch this linked video AJ addresses IN PART how intelligence became interested in his output, and came to start informing him. I do not expect someone who delivers information on the internal war between white hat and black hat intelligence to have no contacts with intelligence - that wouldn't make any sense at all. It does not prove that AJ is disinfo right now at this time because he is informed by intelligence operatives. What he has done over the course of a 20 year career is not within the scope of this post, and frankly is not relevant anymore. What he is doing today is what is making a great deal of difference, if you are happy at all about Trump winning the election over The Establishment, for example. Infowars role in that is undeniable.
Also, if you want to see what AJ is doing but skip the vitamin ads, this link to commercial free broadcasts is invaluable. (if you hit an embedded ad, just skip forward) https://www.youtube.com/user/RonGibsonCF/videos?spfreload=5
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V____Z ago
I've never heard that Michael was looking into child trafficking or abuse. Did Alex expand on why he believes that? This is a completely novel claim.
If Voat is going to take what Alex Jones says as solid evidence, and if those who demand a little more are the bad guys ("someone here wants this post removed") then you guys have succumbed to something I was worried about: your ve been high jacked by the internets most famous controlled opposition, and you will be laughed out of existence for this. It's how it works, and it's meant to work that way. That's what CIA Alex Jones is for.
I have given you all proof that Alex actually has a Stratfor ex employee running infowars. Alex has stated that comet and Jimmy are probably innocent, and set up by the government who planted stuff online to frame them. Yet I'm ignored, and I'm the bad guy. No mention of the evidence against using Alex as a source. Instead the mod uses by request to flag this for accuracy as a chance to bash David Seaman again.
Alex jones father is CIA. He admitted it, as well as admitting that half his family is CIA. People, Alex jones is cointelpro and this has been known for many years. If people warning you about accepting him as the new face of pizzagate are made out to be the bad guys at Voat, this does not bode well.
(This comment references links and other comments I made in this thread.)
VieBleu ago
I am going to hunt through this thread for those links, because I found only one link that links to a AJ takedown here on voat which raises questions and offers a lesson in cointelpro behavior. From what I understand, the stratfor employee was an intern, not "running" Infowars. But so what - Stratfor can have white hats and black hats like most intelligence hangouts including Voat itself. In the video provided in the main post above, AJ specifically discusses how intelligence became interested in his output, and came to start informing him. I do not expect someone who delivers information on the internal war between white hat and black hat intelligence to have no contacts with intelligence - that wouldn't make any sense at all.
However the semantics of that turn out, I think for many, the proof is in the pudding with AJ. He has been on the frontline of the opposition against the global criminal network for so many years. He probably didn't rise out of angel food cake, and he is not pure, nor is he perfect. But he is not misleading people by championing Trump as President, or trying to shape Trump policies towards arresting globalist domination and setting the USA back on a path of economic prosperity and non-interventionist war and foreign policy. Fighting the out of control CIA is what we are all really doing at the end of the day.
The guys in the FBI or CIA countercoup that has taken place are not perfect at all, they are probably death dealers in fact with shady connections. Stone is a major dirty tricks political operative for example. But when you are fighting a war, and it is an information war which makes a very real difference in public action, such as the populist revolution that happened when people overturned the expected outcome by voting for Trump, you can't always be that choosy as far as who is on your side.
I've run into this before here, where heavy Christian oriented pizzagators, or so they say, argue against anybody who sticks their head up for the cause - neither Seaman, Titus Frost, Robert David Steele, IIsthisgaemeofthrones, Alex Jones, Bad Guacamole, FBIAnon, Gunderson, Webb, Kutcher or anyone else is "good enough", "pure enough", "clean enough", "said the right thing enough" to stand up for pizzagate. All of these have been accused repeatedly by those who wish to undermine the forward progress of the pedogate exposure effort of being variously disinfo, shills, out to make a buck, CoInTellPro, you name it. So the end result is we can't have any outspoken leaders because we are such a very very snow white and pure and discerning group. Right. That kind of strategy gets you nowhere, nothing, and nobody.
I listen to the message a lot more than a listen to the messenger's naysayers. In that group above, yes, Kutcher seems suspect as a Freemason and because of how THORN is embedded with establishment corporations, so it is important to be careful of your bedfellows. But not to the point of having no voice at all. And of course, if we listened to every disinfo shill attack that comes around and took it as gospel, we'd be handing the opposition and easy victory.
Singleservename ago
It's not because they have to be squeaky clean and snow white that we can't and shouldn't have 'outspoken leaders'.
It's because we are on very dangerous and precarious grounds here with many individuals, institutions and organizations having a stake here.
We are a huge, distributed movement, the largest collective investigation in the history of mankind into one of its most powerful, most insidious, most nefarious and possibly oldest enemies.
We are at every turn at enormous risk to be manipulated, coopted and captured by the very forces we are opposing.
And then as always there are the countless charlatans and sociopaths hoping to profit from our labor and make a name for themselves over the suffering of the very people we aim to protect.
We don't need leaders, outspoken or not, and in fact our desire for one poses a significant risk to be exploited by our enemies.
We are legion, yet on our own.
VieBleu ago
I'm all for that! Anon from the Scilon fight here. However, we can't afford to be Occupy Wall St either which partially failed because of leaderless lack of direction and focused public discourse - the media took over the narrative almost unopposed in that case.
There need to be speakers to the public, for lack of a better word than "leader". Every time there is, the strategy of opposition is to pick them apart with everything and anything there is - the argument becomes that one is no good, that one is no good, that one is no good. Turns out no one is good enough. So as long as someone is performing and reaching clear objectives, I have to ignore what they might have said 10 years ago.
It is dicey, it is difficult. It is no picnic for any of us.
bopper ago
Yes, you have to take them on a case by case basis. And take the lumps w/ the gravy. ("Chew the meat and spit out the bones.")
I do know a lot of people who watch Alex Jones but they are not at the right point in their "discoveries" to listen to a beat-down of AJ, it would only set them back if that were to happen.
VieBleu ago
but have you followed him throughout the election? He was clearly one of the few viable choices for breaking news that turns out to actually be accurate. News has to be a smorgasboard (meat, veg and carbs) these days. I pick from a lot of places for the only balanced diet possible these days. We all do our best at that I think.
bopper ago
Yes in fact I relied on AJ a lot during the election (and RSBN), he helped Trump get elected and helped to redpill a lot of people on Trump. Even FBIanon said that he was useful.
Balanced diet ... that's another great way to look at it, hadn't thought of it that way. That's exactly what I do, and try to use intuition and common sense.
And ... if you don't "pick from a lot of places" I think you're going to miss out on a lot. There are a lot of idiots in the past that I've learned from, and I wouldn't change it, Heck, there's a lot of stupid inane youtube videos that I have, and still do, learn from. You just gotta grin and bear 'em, to get to the "good stuff."
V____Z ago
Stratfor does not have white hats. Where did you hear that?
VieBleu ago
Does anyone really know? Ironically "black and white" thinking can't really apply now. (gentle ha ha)
I know in the past Stratfor were "bad guys" but I think a lot of the people fighting to save the basic structure of the US might be types I would find odious in gentler times. I don't particularly like spies, killers, and shady operators, but some of them have a basic sense of the idea that America is really about to be lost altogether. There is a fight going on right now. I'm a betting type, and I'd bet there are black and white hats throughout different organizations, many of which are not showing their true affiliations either way right now.