https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/
At first when I read all the PG related Podesta emails I was shocked and appalled but after chewing on this for three months now and diving more into the rest of his emails, they don't seem all that abnormal in their context and I am starting to believe they are not code at all.For example, the dominos/pizza/pasta email. After reading more emails searching the word dominoes one can plainly see that he is a big fan of the game and plays socially.There is even a picture that has surfaced of him playing. That famous email is IMO the same thing as saying "Do you think I'd be better playing Poker on licqour or on beer" Along with all the other suspicious emails, there is not one that doesn't have a logical explanation if read in context. Another example, the Luzzato email can be interpreted as creepy but Old people like the company of little kids and I know my grandparents (R.I.P) would be entertained by 3 kids playing in the pool and bringing out their youthful side. Its just worded a little strange. The famous fish and 14 on his hands picture. What you don't see is the caption above the tweet about his Initiative 14 to save the oceans. He was simply trying to being attention to the "bill" as saving the oceans has always been a campaign of his. Yes and then there's the artwork, yes its creepy but not illegal. Alot of people like a lot of weird shit, its this melting pot of different tastes in culture, art and music that make America what it is, Spirit cooking, I believe to be just a silly fad that elite actors and artists have hyped up and I know alot of people that are totally normal good people that if they got invited to a free event/dinner that they would go just to see the spectacle.Why doesnt he just respond to the accusations? I used to troll his twitter and think the same thing, but really, if he is innocent, he doesnt owe anybody jackshit.I can understand it royally pissing him off and having his PR people tell him not to touch it with a ten foot pole. I cannot explain his resemblance to the McCann drawings and I want to stress that I am not trying to probe him innocent but rather jus t trying to provide some narrative that there might not be anything to the emails. I think we all need to have a more open mind and not use PG as a Democratic bashing outlet and we need to consider all avenues and outlets even if it incriminates your lord and savior Trump. There is just as much circumstantial evidence against him as anybody else but he is immediately dismissed no matter what as this investigation is completely bipartisan. Do I still believe in Pedophillia at the highest levels of our Government? Absolutely. Am I a shill? Hell no. Did I vote for Hillary? Fuck no! If anyone has any other emails to bring up I would be happy to give a logical explanation and keep this investigation on the right people and in the right direction.
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Singleservename ago
Where's the picture of John playing dominoes? Don't think I've seen it.
You haven't explained the handkerchief with pizza related map.
You haven't explained the 'changing strategy' by John Podesta when he sent Sandler a box of cheeses to be 'demolished'. Who speaks that way? And how does it matter what you've had for dinner when playing any game whatsoever?
Also, whipping someone with dominos making up the rules as you go, using the Podesta method? I've played a lot of dominos and never heard anyone speak of it that way. You don't make up the rules as you go that's nonsense to any serious player.
There are only a couple of mails with dominos in them, all to the Sandlers (who are btw lying thieving parasitic subprime bailout profiteering scumbags). So no he's not some big fan of the game. Did you even really do a search yourself?
The phrasing in the Luzzatto mail with kids in the pool for entertainment - well explain it away as old folks talk but I have never heard anyone speak about kids that way, young, old or elderly.
Combine them all together and you haven't properly explained anything, in fact the odds of someone having innocuous emails from different parties all with these weird wordings are infinitesimally small.
I don't think you properly researched the issue, apart perhaps from the 14/fish picture. Which could still be ambivalent/symbolic, since they do love those ambiguities i.e. hiding in plain sight.
But, keep those faux refutations coming if you have more. This could yet prove fruitful.
racoonbite ago
wasnt the mother of those kids renting out camera time for adults and her kids? cant find the link
dougG ago
You've never looked at a big juicy burger and said or thought I'm going to demolish that thing? When looking at looked at a bunch of chicken wings when I'm starving I know I've personally said " I'm going to tear those up" Same concept. Once again though, I'm not trying to prove him innocent but just provide different possibilities/scenarios.....There are hundreds of pizza related maps circulating (Google image) if you are a huge fan of Italian food it would be a goofy present for someone to give him. Its just how casually they discuss it, like it really is just a hankerchief. Plus, just to add there are no instances where podesta has been caught using nasty language or sexual references in any of his emails.I searched every derogatory term known to man so you would think that if he was that blatant there would be some incriminating mention of something. And you are right, it was a picture of him playing poker. So I will delete that. My bad.
Freudy_Krueger ago
To further your research, the handkerchief magically changes subject identifier in the email chain.
Email #1 - I have a square cloth handkerchief (black w/ white) left on the kitchen island.
Email #2- The realtor found a hankerchief (I think it has a map. Seems pizza related).
No mention of pizza, or a map in email #1. Yet, in email #2, Susaner has inserted both map and pizza-related into the email to John P. Curious?
All that aside. What the hell does a hankerchief seems pizza-related even mean? Explain that?
Singleservename ago
It's a black and white checkered handkerchief with a map on it that seems pizza-related. I dare you to find such a thing using google or any image search.
I love Italy and it's cuisine. Have been there many times, never saw a pizzamap on a handkerchief.
Should you find it though, you'd still have to explain why a realtor and after her a Sandler thought it important enough to even email him about it.
As to demolishing cheeses, sure, could be a figure of speech even if the writer isn't that hungry for them atm. But what about the 'unannounced change of strategy'? Because those words were my real point here.
As to Podesta's nasty language or sex refs, no they are not in the emails at least explicitly. I guess he leaves that to Skippy.
Btw you haven't addressed the dominos issue and him supposedly being a 'huge fan'. Kindly do so or remove that refutation as well, because as it stands it is a very strange way to speak about that particular game.