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MolochHunter ago

Fair post. Im not 100% sure Im a Christian, but since Pizzagate started I'm prolly above 90%

the thing I cant reconcile is: When almost the entirety of the Christian Church is part of the satanic infrastructure, where do you go to participate? what source do you trust but your Gnostic intuition?

Fsumom ago

Only trust God because he is our only hope to regret the evil. The Bible says even the church could be deceived and that Satan will dress like a wolf in sheeps clothing. Participate in your home with the Bible and God.

cakeoflightylight ago

MolochHunter, if you want to be a Christian you do not have to join a church you just have to believe in Jesus and his sacrifice. The Catholic Church is only a small part of the world of Christianity and yes it is led by a Satanic Pope, I'd recommend not focusing on that aspect of so-called Christianity and just look for true Christianity. Plenty of Catholics have no idea how evil the Pope is or the infrastructure they support for that matter. http://www.allaboutgod.com/the-roman-road.htm This is basically the path to Christianity I was taught as a 5 year old when I asked my mom how to get to Heaven. A simple prayer.

Freecaris ago

Ya that's what i tripped out about when i had a violent jolt out of athiesm/mild occultism into Christianity. I recognized it as the truth but was irritated about it, lol. I joined the Catholic church and found truth through the sacraments, especially the Eucharist and confession, because God set it up to contain truth no matter how many corrupt members there were. It is not about institutions. That was my skepticism my whole life (why Hell? Why all these dumb rules like go to church on Sunday give tithes etc?). It is God as a lover doing everything in his power throughout all history to protect us from choosing evil and hell. It requires a pretty intense paradigm shift. Reading St Faustina's diary blew my mind enough that i was open to a perspective change. He uses all kinds of things.

TheDeer ago

Your gnostic intuiting is a good place to go. If you see all the big ones, Jesus, Buddha, Gandhi - they all went at it alone, later to create followers. Most people won't create any followers this lifetime, but going at it alone is key.

bopper ago

Moloch guy, you have to go back to the protestant reformation for the truth, things have become quite corrupted since then, and much of professing Christianity has been co-opted by spiritual wickedness in high places. So it's kind of lonely right now for true believers.

Malignment ago

The Bible alone good sir, and seeking fellowship with your fellow believers. God will honor you and teach you for picking up the Bible and reading it cover to cover. Ask, seek, knock

Freemasonsrus ago

Just do not trust man. Any church that raises any man or "leader" above Jesus Christ is a red flag. Highly recommend reading The Case for Christ. Written by a man who was an investigative reporter for Chicago tribune as well as a lawyer and atheist.

LolturdFerguson ago

The temple is inside you. Jesus spoke in esoteric metaphors that we have not fully grasped until now. We never questioned God's voice (the church) until recently.

I dropped from my strict Christian upbringing and dove deep, deep down into the darkness and the occult. I was ravenous for any knowledge I could come across. I only realize now I hungered for secret truths.

While I found the thought of sacrifice repugnant, I do believe I sacrificed something more valuable than flesh during those times...my spirit.

It has only been through deep meditation and understanding of the Gnostic Jesus and gospel that I have found myself again. I still have so much to learn, but this investigation has peeled back the blinders to the duality of the situation. That 'good' and 'evil' do exist, just on a different level of understanding that I never had before.

20Justice4All17 ago

If you look in the book of Revelations, in the beginning Chapters the Angel of the Lord has a problem with all Churches but one. The Angel details what issues Gid has with each one including Satanism. With that said, there are true blessed believers in each. I think the trick is having a healthy skepticism about the organization, but valuing true believes. The Bible clearly states the Christain faith is a process, so everyone is on a different point in their journey...but certainly we need to recognize they hypocrisy, corruption, and evil within church organizations when we find it.
It was a hard pill for me to swallow finding out Billy Graham is part of this evil. Brings to mind the passage where Jesus, at the judgment seat tells those who claim to have done great things in His name, 'Depart from me, I never knew you, you workers of lawlessness'...

Geo_synchronous ago

Just because these people worship Satan doesn't make him real. Monks spend their whole lives devoted to what they believe as being a God and that also doesn't mean he's real. These kinds of people simply convince themselves these made up entities exist. The same way many people completely believe the earth is flat or shape shifting lizards have taken over DC. (David Icke) Or Erich von Däniken and how what he thinks is the absolute truth. How can he and Zahi Hawass, The Egyptian archaeologist who is convinced his theory is the right one. How can both be correct ? Neither of them can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that their own theories are the right ones. People are easily convinced and because of that they actually follow through with the practices of worship or study which to them is real. The only thing that is real with this type of thinking is these practices they do that are quite real. The acts they do in the name of their beliefs are real even though its based on fiction. I find it hard to believe that a God that is all knowing, all loving, all forgiving would sentence his creation to ETERNAL BURNING if they don't do it his way.. Thats a pretty damn serious punishment to put on his people. Its not real. Those are words of man. Those are words of a Dictator. "My way or die" Not a God. So keep your mind open but not so open your brain falls out.

Trs0817 ago

Check out Eastern Orthodoxy. They reject Vatican rule.

itsafuckshitstack ago

the bible is still something external. the big trick is coaxing people to always keep their attention focused outside of ourselves (we can all think of 5 ways they do this right off the bat). I would suggest to anyone an experiment. find the calmest place you can (this includes electromagnetic waves, no good), give yourself enough time where you don't have to worry about being late, etc. and just let your mind do it's thing. think about something or nothing if you want. do this a few times. see what happens.

SturdyGal ago

Good and evil exist side by side within every religion, institution and person. Goodness is always a choice. To me God gave us free will to make the choice and a heart to help us know right from wrong.

UglyTruth ago

where do you go to participate? what source do you trust but your Gnostic intuition?

You participate by discussing the issues with people who have some knowledge of the facts. You can trust a methodology which seeks consistency from the natural means of recognizing truth: reason, felicity, and insight.

doubleherpes ago

Just do mushrooms and realize we're all one timeless consciousness. The Hindus and Buddhists were right, despite speaking in metaphors.

If you get lonely, go hang out with some Unitarians. Don't read the Bible though, jfc. It's nonsense. "Gibber begat Hoosaput, who begat...." Nonsense.

awarenessadventurer ago

Nag hamadi and the lost gospels.

Vindicator ago

Well, if Satan is real and Christ wasn't LARPing when he claimed to be God and warned people about the dangers of demons, where else would Satan focus his most intense efforts but on those attempting to follow his enemy? Jesus warned repeatedly of this very thing; it's no surprise so many Christians fall. But where is there evidence "almost the entirety of the Christian Church is part of the satanic infrastructure?"

Do not be tempted by the promise of special hidden knowledge available to a few elite insiders (Gnosticism). That shit is eerily similar to the modus operendi of the power-mad Pedocracy we're stalking. (It also has been recognized by Christians as a heresy since the 2nd century).

As for what source to trust? Have you ever taken a peek at C.S. Lewis' Screwtape Letters? How about anything by G.K. Chesterton? The real Jedi, though, if you really want a logic workout, is Thomas Aquinas.

MolochHunter ago

"almost the entirety" I admit to hyperbole there

(bet you haven't heard anyone say that for a looong time)

butbutbut the denouncement of Gnosticism was part of the process of the Churh's corruption: only come to God through US - at OUR churches - pay US your contributions...

YingYangMom ago

Gnosticism was part of the process of the Churh's corruption: only come to God through US - at OUR churches - pay US your contributions...

Same tactics are still being used today it seems. This reminds me of this story:

CNN Says You're Not Smart Enough To Read Leaked Emails

You're not allowed to read this stuff. You're not allowed to see this stuff. You're breaking the law, but we're media so we can do it and we know what's best for you. We will spoon-feed you all the best tidbits like you're a baby bird. We'll just chew it up and spit it out right into your mouth.

Haha.

MolochHunter ago

yes, astutely observed parallel

SturdyGal ago

I have noticed a change in publicly defined gnosticism. It used to be using your senses and intellect to perceive creation (free of dogma) and now it seems full on luciferia. Don't know if the original idea was coopted or is now truly revealed. I am not one who thinks religion is the only way to find God so don't consider the former definition evil in nature,

Howmanyarethere ago

I wouldn't say entirely....but there has been a concerted effort to infiltrate and corrupt major churches. Any church promoting world unity under global religion and blurring the lines between religions are probably compromised.

There is a clear agenda a foot and the evidence is so out in the open and clear cut but way too numerous and voluminous to post in this one comment. I just say to you, once you start digging regarding satanic and well more precise lucifarianism, it never seems to end.

For me it started when I realized that the EU building in Brussels was modeled after the half built Tower of Babel. For the life of me, I couldn't reconcile why a generally non-religious European Union would choose to model their building after a story from the bible. That is until I reread about the Tower of Babel and considered its meaning. That one clue got me looking into symbolism used through out the EU and then of course history of symbolism and then down the rabbit hole I went.

So my point is, this is something you have to research yourself. But believe me, the information is easy to find. This involves a global agenda of power and control and everyone should be trying to research what it is these people actually believe and what these people are trying to achieve. It matters not what you personally believe, but you should understand what the elite believe.

MolochHunter ago

well, exactly - I don't doubt for a minute now that THEY believe in Satan, Lucifer, Baal, Moloch or something so close its semantics to distinguish it.

But its not a fait-accompli that I therefore conclude Satan to be real, ergo God. I just do to err on the side of existential caution.

phlux ago

what source do you trust but your Gnostic intuition?

none, necessarily, but the problem is that moral-gnostics, such as what I feel "conspiracy theorists" are as a FAR better fucking label, are not organized in any formidable structure as of yet, and we desperately need to find a way to continue decentralized but more organized...

chelseaclinton ago

The Word of God is the only place to go. The King James bible, as old of an edition as you can find. Read it front to back, pray for understanding, and then you'll be equipped to evaluate the degree of corruption of churches you visit. Jesus didn't come so we could continue to have other men between us and God, He came so we could have a direct relationship with God.

kestrel9 ago

The Christian Church came before the New Testament, the NT Bible was agreed upon by Christians for use within the Church (Orthodox) in an effort to counter all the early heresies of people who sought to incorporate Christianity into their own way of thinking. The early Bishops took the letters that had circulated for years, and through a long process, distilled the core into a 'Canon' that was agreed on by the early Church. That doesn't mean that everything about Christianity is only in the Bible. Having people relying solely on their understanding of what they've read (too often out of context), is how modern day Christians have over 40,000 denominations which continue to splinter as we speak. There's a whole Church history before the 1500s that isn't Catholic and a whole history before 1054, when the political tensions with Bishop of Rome resulted in them breaking off on their own.

MolochHunter ago

couple of days ago I had a thought - I'd long known that the scriptures were only compiled and selected for the Bible in the 4th Century, with many of them written in the years after Jesus death

What was going on in the Roman Empire in the years after Jesus's death? Caligula. How much of the Bible was written as a social bulwark against the re-emergence of Caligula

I look around at the temper of the times and everyone's freaking out about who the next Hitler is gonna be. But I've felt since November 2016 that if this Paedostocracy prevail over Trump then we will be surely counting the days before the emergence of the next Caligula

rivercontrol ago

Reading your posts makes me want to recommend this book to you: amazon - com/Closing-Western-Mind-Faith-Reason/dp/1400033802

MolochHunter ago

"direct relationship with God" - that's Gnosticism. I believe in the goodness of Jesus, and the God he spoke of. But the God of the Old Testament? Petulant, arbitrary, unforgiving. You cannot cite the Old Testament God as an example of unconditional love.

Fsumom ago

Except that he sent his son to be a sacrifice to save people from the punishment that his righteousness required. That is unconditional love just not unconditional acceptance of man's sinful nature.

Catsfive ago

Yes. But, the Bible gives clear indication of what God's intention is for how we are to interpret the Old Testament. It is dead. At the moment of Christ's death, the curtain between the holy and most holy sections of the Temple was ripped from the top down. It's a new covenant, where the God of the most holy is come out of that ritualistic seclusion and yes, connect directly with you.

YingYangMom ago

I believe in the goodness of Jesus, and the God he spoke of.

Have faith and try to be like him, not just in words, but in actions. Open up your heart and be generous. Forgive those who have wronged you, and ask for forgiveness when you have wronged others. Repent, but also use the brain God has given you to better yourself and your life. Educate yourself and be humble. Most importantly, don't be afraid of anything, because HE is with you. And He knows your heart.

Malignment ago

The Old Testament was revolutionary for its time. Consider this:

  • The Hebrew law was a huge burden on the people that wrote it
  • it was radically revolutionary in its human (and animal) rights comparably, while the rest of the world was feeding babies to the fire and enslaving their neighbors. It was a ruthless barbaric world.
  • the next phase shift in radical reformation of the human condition came with Jesus - and make no mistake he claimed to be Emmanuel, God incarnate
  • the Israelites lived in a dangerous time and went through many genocides through history but here we are, Israel exists as prophecied and the Jews exist as a people despite all odds.

Freemasonsrus ago

I think the "Law" AKA the Old Testament is best understood after reading the New Testament.

bopper ago

The OT is the NT concealed. The NT is the OT revealed.

PromiseKeeper ago

Another recommendation, the book 'Pagan Streams: An Inquiry Into The Origins Of The Bible'

Morpheus ago

demiurge

islandofdelight ago

You are correct there... Believe in the teachings of Jesus. Forget the Old Testament. You don't need to be born again or saved from your sins... all of that is invented. There is good and evil and that's all we need to know. Jesus was real, taught unconditional love and forgiveness, and that we are all ONE with GOD... Not that he was a God to be worshipped... your instincts are correct.

Jordan-Ross ago

Actually to make it into Heaven, you do need to be born again. I was born again after a near death experience in 2012.. pleaded with God to spare my life (did not want to go to hospital and possibly get in trouble so I just depended on Him to save me) and if I lived, I'd be a warrior for the Good side. I've seen so many miraculous things.. both good and evil things that have totally transformed my perception of this world since then.

Also during said heart attack, whenever I'd get near a TV or computer screen.. it would go haywire and fizzle about with static. That was the CRAZIEST part of the whole thing.

But not as crazy as the things that happened after.. mainly being pursued by the dark side on foot during an episode in Austin TX. Phew that's a whole other post..

MolochHunter ago

Are you telling me that if someone makes a massive contribution to #Pizzagate and bringing down the Satanists, but for whatever reason of their upbringing did not become born again - even if they believed in Jesus - that they would not be granted the kingdom of Heaven?

that to me is not of a Just God.

bopper ago

That's what you get for being in Austin TX :)

VieBleu ago

We know that one doesn't exist because he would have smote these pedos down a long time ago.

thisHoCwilltumble ago

It's all written in the Bible. This is where our world is headed. http://biblehub.com/kjv/2_timothy/3.htm

UglyTruth ago

He endorsed the deity of Abraham when he endorsed the prophets who recorded his word, especially Isaiah.

blumeanie ago

Utter, utter garbage.

kestrel9 ago

Orthodox Christians

MolochHunter ago

its interesting. Orthodox priests have always been allowed to marry. So they have an allowed path of sexual release/relief - I've oft wondered how much of a function that plays in their comparatively lesser participation in paedophilia

kestrel9 ago

Yes, Orthodox Priests can marry before becoming Priests, they can marry once. Bishops are not married. An interesting point is that the Roman Catholic Church is historically less forgiving of members who divorce. There are many differences between the two actually. At any rate, regarding the pedophilia topic, the Alfred Kinsey documentary I watched mentioned how the influence of his bogus human sexuality research (which tried to normalize pedophilia and claimed incest and sexualizing babies was a good thing), extended into American culture to the point that even Catholic seminary applicants/candidates were required to take classes from the Kinsey Institute, and the men who were more 'open' to homosexuality or pedophilia were brought in over more traditionally minded candidates who were weeded out. That, combined with the no marriage rule...we can now see the result decades later.

OutlawStriding ago

The catholic church is not all of Christianity

VieBleu ago

It extends to protestants too - Oral Roberts University.

lurch91 ago

There is a huge difference between a jew, catholics, and Roman catholicism. Stay away from mega churches and Westboro baptist

lurch91 ago

And I'm not trying to force it down your throat, or anyone's for that matter. Im just saying if you believe in good, you believe in bad. And if there is a Satan (bad), there by logic has to be a Good (God).

You should check that book out, anon. If pizzagate wasn't so undeniably true, the stuff in that book would sound COMPLETELY fake. But knowing pizzagate IS real, and the depth it goes to, it makes the impossible sound realistic; which unfortunately is very real. Let me know if you check it out!

equineluvr ago

That is an anthropogenic duality system.