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Singleservename ago

I think I may have found our man. It's Bernie Ward. Timeline matches, also Barbara Boxer connection.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2010/10/28/how-many-child-pornographers-has-barbara-boxer-employed/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Ward

edit: link added

The_Kuru ago

I think he was in California and not the mystery witness but probably a contributor in the network. I remember that guy very well from his tv appearances. The three liberals I despised the most back then were Weiner, Ward and Moore. Two down...

Singleservename ago

Yes he was SF-based but as I understand the docs Ellington appartments were merely a meeting point for the sting, not a home address. Also it was a federal case and Ward could be expected to have a Boxer's aide's trust.

Well I could be wrong, but still the timing as well as the sentencing seem to fit..

The_Kuru ago

It looked to me like it was witness residence and they were to meet in the lobby. McHaney asked if it was at his residence so it sounds like he knew where the guy lived. They probably would have arranged the bust at a hotel if they were trying to be sneaky.

Singleservename ago

Would have to close read the documents again but I remember reading a news article where the location of the sting was a fake address.

But yeah if McHaney asked to meet at his residence I'm probably wrong, or Ward had a DC appartment as well. Ellington does look quite large.

The_Kuru ago

I just know that McHaney asked CW if he was at home and it wouldn't seem to flow in sequence if it turned out to be somewhere else unless they specified after that entry "no, we'll meet at x". But it could have been somewhere else and just a sloppy line in the complaint. That was from the pdf that said complaint.

Singleservename ago

As I read it Mike asked the CW whether the boy was at his residence, after which they agreed to meet at specified location.

Not trying to persist in an error here, but it doesn't say that the residence and the predetermined location are one and the same. In fact the phrasing suggest they weren't.

The_Kuru ago

I took "specified place" to mean the lobby of the apartment building that was CW residence. It would seem pointless to add the part about McHaney asking CW if he was at his residence when they could have just left that out and just said they agreed to meet at a specified location. That's the only clue I have about CW's identity so I'm not gonna let it go too easy.

Singleservename ago

Sorry for dwelling on this but why would they meet in the lobby of Ellington's if they were gonna meet at the original residence anyway?

The_Kuru ago

Avoid security? I dunno. Seems like somewhere congressional staffers might live rather than rent a room. Would they risk spooking McHaney by bringing an unfamiliar residence of someone else into the picture?

Singleservename ago

According to this account you are right, they met in the lobby of CW's residence: https://chuckgallagher.wordpress.com/tag/kenneth-longerbeam/

Still find it hard to let go of the Ward angle due to similar timelines, Boxer AND Podesta links, sexual prefences and the use of AOL accounts (lilmikierocks and vincentlio).

Tried and failed to establish a Bernard Vincent Ward (1951) property in DC, so you're probably right and Ward's a dead end.

I do believe there's more to Ward's plea deal, possibly as a CW, due to his lenient sentence especially in light of the sadism of his CP collection and further abuses coming to light afterwards, as well as the long period between arrest and plea, almost three years http://dig.abclocal.go.com/kgo/PDF/ward-plea-050808.pdf

There is something here I feel but I'll have to drop it or dig some more. Thanks for your patience.

edit: corrected details

The_Kuru ago

That was the official final version, that they met at CW residence. It is in pdf 11. PDF 1, the complaint, left that part out.

The_Kuru ago

That's interesting because Mr. Gallagher seems to have copied and pasted from the original document way back in 2008 and it looks like they removed that part later, probably because they realized they were exposing a big clue as to CW's identity. If one could get a tenants list for the time, it might be easy to figure out his identity.

I did a little more digging on Ward and was surprised to learn that the FBI raid on his houset was way back in 2005. It took them two years to indict. Maybe the media didn't report the raid but he told his friend about it http://abc7news.com/archive/6355567/

Singleservename ago

The plea deal I linked is from 2008 yet dates his arrest, i.e. the 'sexfairy2005' police call to December 2004.

Something going on for sure..

Edit: just read your link about his 'friend turning him in and that story surely contradicts the one in the plea deal (i.e. the official story)

Edit2: you are probably right about Callagher using a different account of the sting and the reason why.

But Ellington is a huge place with many condos. Perhaps someone with more detailed access could check owner's records. All I got was T C Ellington LLC

The_Kuru ago

No it's the final version. PDF 11 at the first link I provided. We were looking at the preliminary complaint version. They cleaned it up and so it was definitely CW residence.

I don't know why the headline said the friend turned him in. The article doesn't say that. Maybe they were trying to put some misinformation in the heads of the people in the area so that Ward's "research for a book" excuse would sound more believable. I dunno.

Singleservename ago

I just read Ward's sentencing report and it's disgusting. He abused his own kids and their friends too.

http://dig.abclocal.go.com/kgo/PDF/082108-Ward-Sentencing-Memo.pdf

Still got the low end of sentencing with 108 months god knows why.

Man I do respect the good LEOs investigating this stuff. It's beyond disgusting.