I hate the fact that if there were to be a global flood, no one would ever believe it was gods work. A flood would be gradual if anything, and it would be blamed on humans, not god. That's the big issue I have with religion now. We will never be okay with mass extinction on ANY scale. The huge tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands? Is that not big enough to call it god's work? I don't want to follow a god that's willing to kill that many people, and I'm very weary of ANYONE that would be okay with millions of people being killed, as long as they can say that God meant for it to happen.
I don't fully understand your question. I'm not okay with ANY of it. I don't believe in god. It doesn't make sense for there to even be a god. People praise Noah's ark as if it would have been a good thing (had it been true) that the entire earth's population is killed. It's a freaking holocaust. Just because it's written down in a book and we think that an invisible entity caused it, everything makes that event seem okay! That's ridiculous. If it happened again today, noone would be singing praise to god for it.
Of course not because man is more aware now that they are the sole destroyer of themselves.
Man loves scapegoats because their pride does not allow them to take responsibility for their actions
I'll agree with that but would also like to add that scientifically, it's been proven, that we are pre-wired to WANT to believe in a higher power. We are also wired to find patterns and to want to make sense of why things happen. We don't like randomness. Belief in a higher power makes us feel less crazy because we live in a chaotic world that is NOT organized. Nothing is planned. It's all random.
I will disagree. Everything is planned.
The elites want to be god of the earth. Satan lives vicariously through them .
God does exist. And the proof is our ability of free will. Do you really think satan wants us to have free will?
Of course not.
Satan wants us to eat each other figuratively and technically speaking.
I will just have to agree to disagree here. I am of the belief that there is no god and no satan. We are all athiest, including you. You're just an athiest to the thousands of other gods that came before YOUR god (christian I assume). That's okay. It really is okay to believe that, but just rembmer that those who worshipped the gods before your Christian god all felt the same belief that you do. There is no difference. Were they wrong?. I am also a firm believer that if there was a god, why would he ignore humans that evolved over hundreds of thousands of years before FINALLY sending his supposed son to save us from our sins. Were the Millions of humans before Jesus not worth his time? If EVERYTHING is planned, then why is it that we praise him when something good happens to us, like maybe we get a good bonus at work, but then when thousands of children are dying, we say he works in mysterious ways? Do you really believe that he is powerful enough to give you a couple extra bucks, but not save children's lives?
Free will and our ability to keep free will an option is a gift from the almighty. Lets call this omnipotent presence the almighty. Now if children are being abused and murdered it is because of our free will to allow it to happen. And it is of our free will to stop it.
So then what you're saying is God has no control over these children's safety? That's exactly what you should be saying because of free will. So if that's the case, God has absolutely zero power to control anything we say, do, think, etc... see the conundrum? There's no way that you can say an omnipotent god exists while also claiming free will exists. You can't truly have both.
God has zero say. After all we have free will. But god does exist. If Satanist believe in satan then you must also believe god exists. Its a belief system dynamic. If you do not believe god exists then god does not exist. If you believe god is dead then well...
Gotcha. Well.. again.. I don't believe in there being a god, or satan. I truly believe that we are all just particles that originated from an explosion and over billions of years became more and more complex. Natural selection and evolution gives us what we are today. Again... for me... satan and god don't exist. I don't believe in an afterlife, and that makes me extremely happy.
What's a black and white forum? Are you saying everyone here is religious? I've seen the opposite. I'm not being hostile by the way. It's just an interesting topic to discuss.
A black and white forum or i guesd i should say issue is that theres no grey area to advocate or condone the behavior of people who abuse children. This pizzagate forum seems to be about exposing and stopping the systematic abuse of children by elites in power and their connections to human trafficking and
Satanic agendas.
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Werwer12 ago
I hate the fact that if there were to be a global flood, no one would ever believe it was gods work. A flood would be gradual if anything, and it would be blamed on humans, not god. That's the big issue I have with religion now. We will never be okay with mass extinction on ANY scale. The huge tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands? Is that not big enough to call it god's work? I don't want to follow a god that's willing to kill that many people, and I'm very weary of ANYONE that would be okay with millions of people being killed, as long as they can say that God meant for it to happen.
Touchdown50 ago
And yet what if MAN caused a man made nuclear holocaust? Would you be ok with that just as long as you know god had nothing to do with it?
Werwer12 ago
I don't fully understand your question. I'm not okay with ANY of it. I don't believe in god. It doesn't make sense for there to even be a god. People praise Noah's ark as if it would have been a good thing (had it been true) that the entire earth's population is killed. It's a freaking holocaust. Just because it's written down in a book and we think that an invisible entity caused it, everything makes that event seem okay! That's ridiculous. If it happened again today, noone would be singing praise to god for it.
Touchdown50 ago
Of course not because man is more aware now that they are the sole destroyer of themselves. Man loves scapegoats because their pride does not allow them to take responsibility for their actions
Werwer12 ago
I'll agree with that but would also like to add that scientifically, it's been proven, that we are pre-wired to WANT to believe in a higher power. We are also wired to find patterns and to want to make sense of why things happen. We don't like randomness. Belief in a higher power makes us feel less crazy because we live in a chaotic world that is NOT organized. Nothing is planned. It's all random.
Touchdown50 ago
I will disagree. Everything is planned. The elites want to be god of the earth. Satan lives vicariously through them . God does exist. And the proof is our ability of free will. Do you really think satan wants us to have free will? Of course not. Satan wants us to eat each other figuratively and technically speaking.
Werwer12 ago
I will just have to agree to disagree here. I am of the belief that there is no god and no satan. We are all athiest, including you. You're just an athiest to the thousands of other gods that came before YOUR god (christian I assume). That's okay. It really is okay to believe that, but just rembmer that those who worshipped the gods before your Christian god all felt the same belief that you do. There is no difference. Were they wrong?. I am also a firm believer that if there was a god, why would he ignore humans that evolved over hundreds of thousands of years before FINALLY sending his supposed son to save us from our sins. Were the Millions of humans before Jesus not worth his time? If EVERYTHING is planned, then why is it that we praise him when something good happens to us, like maybe we get a good bonus at work, but then when thousands of children are dying, we say he works in mysterious ways? Do you really believe that he is powerful enough to give you a couple extra bucks, but not save children's lives?
Touchdown50 ago
Free will and our ability to keep free will an option is a gift from the almighty. Lets call this omnipotent presence the almighty. Now if children are being abused and murdered it is because of our free will to allow it to happen. And it is of our free will to stop it.
Werwer12 ago
So then what you're saying is God has no control over these children's safety? That's exactly what you should be saying because of free will. So if that's the case, God has absolutely zero power to control anything we say, do, think, etc... see the conundrum? There's no way that you can say an omnipotent god exists while also claiming free will exists. You can't truly have both.
Touchdown50 ago
God has zero say. After all we have free will. But god does exist. If Satanist believe in satan then you must also believe god exists. Its a belief system dynamic. If you do not believe god exists then god does not exist. If you believe god is dead then well...
Werwer12 ago
Gotcha. Well.. again.. I don't believe in there being a god, or satan. I truly believe that we are all just particles that originated from an explosion and over billions of years became more and more complex. Natural selection and evolution gives us what we are today. Again... for me... satan and god don't exist. I don't believe in an afterlife, and that makes me extremely happy.
Touchdown50 ago
Thats fine and dandy but then why are you here on this black and white forum?
Werwer12 ago
What's a black and white forum? Are you saying everyone here is religious? I've seen the opposite. I'm not being hostile by the way. It's just an interesting topic to discuss.
Touchdown50 ago
A black and white forum or i guesd i should say issue is that theres no grey area to advocate or condone the behavior of people who abuse children. This pizzagate forum seems to be about exposing and stopping the systematic abuse of children by elites in power and their connections to human trafficking and Satanic agendas.
Werwer12 ago
Ahhh yes makes sense. I'll get this theological mess outta here then. Haha.