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bopper ago

I deleted my comment/reply so as not to derail things but I'll give it another go just for what it's worth 'cause everything seems to be so related to CIA and other (British) intel.

And more degrees. Manson is buds w/ the Beach Boys who are friends w/ record producer Terry Melcher son of Doris Day who owned the home, Melcher was buds w/ Papa John who was visited by Faul McCartney just before the Monterrey Pop Festival which was LSD-spiked by the CIA ... whose (Beatle) lyrics from the White Album were scrawled on the Melcher walls in blood before the White Album was even released.

Okay, carry on.

kestrel9 ago

From early on in PG, I had all kinds of notes (that I misplaced) while looking into Clement Freud... I had read he was on the cover of a Beatles Album (Band On The Run, 1973) but at the time I mistakenly assumed it was the Sgt. Peppers album. Started looking into that deep rabbit hole and found some very interesting stuff!! Started working to retrace my steps but now that you bring it up, I'm going to look diligently for the notes. Given the Kinsey files and his influence of mainstreaming pedophilia (his statistics were skewed; paid some pedos to take notes, he also used detailed info from an a Nazi SS pedo rapist and likely murderer) it's no wonder our culture has lethal social cancer. Kinsey was a SM who reportedly circumcised himself in the bathtub, and somehow hung himself by the balls. Or maybe it was for 'science' who knows, anyhow he was obsessed with A. Crowley and went to England to try to get his journal. I'm only including this from memory to say that the British/German pedo invasion is related IMO, to our country's sexual revolution (so called).
So from memory and a quick search, Marjorie Cameron, artist/occultist led to Jack Parsons... "One of JPL’s founders, Jack Parsons, would come to be known as the “father of rocketry.” Unfortunately, much of his controversial personal life, mired in occultism, group sexual orgies, black magic, and a close friendship with L. Ron Hubbard, before he created Scientology, would eventually obscure his scientific accomplishments." Following the Jack Parsons story eventually lead to Michael Aquino/Church of Satan...and a hole rabbit hole unto himself. Anyway, it's an area I had just started revisiting and thought I'd mention is on this thread (It was shocking to be redpilled that far back but the Kinsey files brought everything together) Sidenote, the UK radio/BBC/artists, rabbit hole aka Saville, Clement Freud as two examples, plus the organization to normalize pedos in the UK, seemed to come here as well, or at any rate, resonated in the US and likely help sow the seeds for what we have today, Hollywood MK Ultra/pedo universe/satanic hellhole. Harry Hay also wanted to normalize pedos but I think he was rejected by many in the gay community at that time. Also, There's a lot of early "horror" films that surfaced as well from while digging into connections,Christopher Lee, was also on the Beatles album cover with C. Freud and he jokingly recalls the UK orgy scene (He says he did not participate), with people who act like they are Satanists. He said he would leave the movie set when people started taking off their clothes. His quote (don't have time now to cite) reminded me of quote of the character in the 9th Gate movie, the woman in the wheelchair who poo pooed the Satanist/occultists, saying they weren't the real deal but that they just wanted an excuse to have orgies, but the statement wasn't meant to indicate that there didn't exist "a real deal". That's the impression that the quote of Christopher Lee gave me...and for some other trivia, I believe he is also a descendent of Charlemagne. (BTW, pretty sure the PG fake shooter was in a couple movies, or his dad was a director...The Mill?" It occurred to me that the Kinsey influence of recommending incest/pedophilia as healthy for the child/babies is part of the great sick left/right agenda, to normalize sexual rights from birth. Back in the day, Catholic would be priests were sent to the Kinsey Institute to learn about the theories, and conservative applicants were rooted out, and only those who were willing to agree with the theory (or worse) were acceptable be ordained. This seems IMO, as part of the reason we had the whole Catholic priest epidemic! Kinsey recommend that parents purposely "sexually" stimulate their babies from birth (is this why there are now examples of grown men who are sexual over wearing diapers? WTF!! cringe Also he considered incest as healthy for the sexual development at a pretty young age. Is there any wonder that Hollywood pedos love Islamists? Is this why Qatar has a Satanist artist on staff at their museum (another rabbit hole as we saw with the well executed diagram Clinton Foundation/Podesta ties to the art world, Qatar, and supposedly protecting children. If only the snowflakes really knew the origins, the process, and the end goals of who they support...the progressive brainwashing has been effective enough however, that they don't stop yelling RESIST RESIST to ever come down from the adrenal rush of left wing hate.

Votescam ago

kestrel9

It occurred to me that the Kinsey influence of recommending incest/pedophilia as healthy for the child/babies is part of the great sick left/right agenda, to normalize sexual rights from birth.>

There is nothing whatsoever "left wing" about sexual abuse of children/minors which is a crime.

Liberals seek to protect children -- women and children -- if they are in fact liberals.

kestrel9 ago

What I should of said is "pedo-elitist agenda-left&right" which is what I really meant. instead of "left/right" which is to broad. I was on rant, and didn't edit enough, sorry about that. I've started to try to only use the term liberal in a positive sense in order to differentiate liberal democrats I know to be very caring for women and children, from the hard progressive globalist left who has profited on scamming people into believing they do. It's easy to slip up and blame 'liberals' for things that are really progressive hard left driven. I absolutely agree with you that sexual abuse of kids or anyone, is not restricted to one party and we know now that elites within both wings have helped cover each other's crimes, or if not helped, then had enough blackmail on each other to minimize the fallout.

Votescam ago

kestrel9

from the hard progressive globalist left who has profited on scamming people into believing they do. It's easy to slip up and blame 'liberals' for things that are really progressive hard left driven.>

I think you're getting there, but what you're describing about still isn't liberals -- even if they are labeled "Democrats" or "liberals." The only way you can judge them is by their actions -- and that's right wing. HRC and Podesta may be wearing "Dem" labels, but they are right wing fascists as are all who are engaged in trafficking of humans for any purpose -- whether sexual, as drug runners, as prostitutes -- whatever.

:)

kestrel9 ago

Also, it would be helpful for you to read this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8316271.stm and then pick the definition of fascism that you adhere to. Also please give some examples of who you think exemplifies an authentic Democrat and Liberal politician that voted for Hillary.

Votescam ago

Fascism is authoritarianism -- an effort to control others -- to dominate others -- to force their will on others ... all usually by violence.

As I've often said, there is only one way the right wing can rise and that's by violence - assassinations, blackmail, threats, stolen elections. That has long been true, it is still true today.

Actually, if you begin with the Papal States -- Christianity invented capitalism when Feudalism was no longer sufficient to run the Papal States. At about that time, fascism is seen rising in Northern Italy.

Consider that capitalism is suicidal in its exploitation of nature. And that unregulated capitalism is merely organized crime.

Good night!

kestrel9 ago

A bit confused..are you saying that Democrats or Liberals are incapable of trafficking humans or profiting off of it for any purpose? If so, are Democrats and Liberals also incapable of pedophilia in your opinion? Or are you saying that anyone who commits these crimes is a right wing fascist?

Votescam ago

I am saying that "Democrats" and "Liberals" are merely labels -- and that you have to judge people NOT by labels but by what they are actually doing!!!

Human trafficking is not an activity that can be considered to be "liberal." It is FASCIST activity -- i.e., right wing.

Trafficking is kidnapping -- where might you think that could be interpreted as liberal behavior? Look up the meaning of liberal.

Try JFK's speech on liberals versus secret societies.

John F. Kennedy > Quotes > Quotable Quote

John F. Kennedy

“If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people-their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights and their civil liberties-someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal", then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal.”

― John F. Kennedy, Profiles in Courage

Actually think that's part of a much longer and more specific speech, but don't have time to try to find it right now.

HRC operated in secrecy from Mena to State Dept -- not liberal. HRC is likely a pedophile serving the CIA -- not liberal.

Domination of anyone is fascist.

kestrel9 ago

Don't have time to read the speech now either but did find this relevant quote “We are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence — on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day” “It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations”

kestrel9 ago

The quote you cite could describe a moderate to "liberal" republican, a traditional to conservative Democrat (in this day and age) who did not support HRC, or a libertarian.

Votescam ago

Yes, there were "moderate conservatives" at one time in the US Congress who were actually liberals. "Conservatives" destroyed the value of that label with their dirty doings -- but at one time "conservatives" were respected for care of the environment, for protecting wild life, nature, national parks. Again -- ignore the label. Watch the behavior.