OK millenniumfalcon, this in no way breaks rule one, Subverse is flooded with shit again and you deleted a relevant post about popular media personality, saying that pizzagate isn't objective. I'm also making a comparison against a non objective conspiracy that the opposition is comparing us to. I'm very busy with a business to run and don't appreciate having to repost.
Are we trump apologists? Do pizzagate mold the narrative to fit the answer we want? That's a common claim made about conspiracy theories and theorists. This video with Stefan taking to a flat earth believer is a great example of the kind of flawed arguments conspiracy theorists are known and stereotyped for: https://youtu.be/hsOz_J6tJVUYouTube
Lionel talks about pizzagate in this vid twice past tense https://youtu.be/5GxPUAcGPv8YouTube
In a past profession I was a sort of professional contrarianistic skeptic involved in economics and markets and studied statistics, probabilities, fallacy, logic, reasoning, scientific methods of discovery, deduction, etc... As such I pride myself in keeping and open mind, being skeptical, not being duped, persuaded in my opinions, etc... This is much easier to do when you stick to more concrete and absolute matters with fewer variables. Making any sort prediction about any outcome Pizzagate related is akin to long range weather forecasting. There are just so many players with so much at stake. I am very distrustful of just about everyone involved. Just about the only thing I trust is the original emails. I believe they were genuine, Podesta has had plenty of opportunities to deny their credibility and he never has, which if they were tampered with he most certainly would have said so. I am very confident that what we think we're seeing here is what it is, these are bad people, doing bad things. I have no doubt about that. We're not immune to wishful thinking, like with the Worldcorpo stuff. We're mostly powerless to prove the case without access to more personal records and information. I don't know that this will ever be properly investigated. We just have to hope that someone will leak something. Or that we get a lucky break and are able to connect the dots. Just because we're not able to do that, doesn't mean that our 'suspicions' and hunches are unfounded. By that argument all unproven criminal cases should be dropped.
I don't know if we're going to get any help from Trump on this or not, this is just so big and deep. But I'm hopeful, and convinced, and not going to let anyone who doesn't really know anything about it get me down because the arguments being made here for the most part are not apologist our self fulfilling.
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FuckReddit69 ago
You understand that the FE video with stefan was an obvious setup to make FE look crazy and unsubstantiated? They literally must have gotten the worst flat earther to debate him, which leads me to believe this was intentional to make stefan look like the sane, rational one and the FE idiot look insane.
Not only did he not bring up many of the arguments most flat earthers believe are proof of a FE (lack of measurable curvature, obvious NASA psyops and Lies, accuracy of the Gleason map/FE map, Michelson-morley experiment, sagnac experiment, just to name a few) but he obviously knew little about FE and sounded completely irrational. Stefan got the worst FE faggot you can possibly find and had a 1 hour debate about NOTHING with himself.
If this is the only source you used for your FE research, you might want to ask stefan for your time back. He will never have a real FE debate with a seasoned veteran like Eric Dubay, or allegedly Dave (dmurphy25 on youtube) because he will get ripped to shreds and lose his precious subs. FUCK HIM and FUCK YOU. I hope you like a side of dick with your confirmation bias.
pavezi ago
The Flat Earth theory is pathetic and moronic. It has been destroyed thousand different ways, but obviously the powers that be are pushing it, because it discredits other conspiracy theories and draws attention in to something completely idiotic and useless.
FuckReddit69 ago
You know nothing Jon Snow.
Do some research before you judge.
"condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance"
pavezi ago
That applies to you as well, sir. You simply assume that I haven't researched this subject. And I have, I have watched several hours of documentaries etc by the most popular Flat Earthers, including information by Eric Dubay you mentioned. So it is you who condemn me without investigation, while I am merely talking about my investigation in to the several hours of Flat Earth arguments and documentaries I've watched, and rejected the fallacious sophistries of these people pushing this theory.