OK millenniumfalcon, this in no way breaks rule one, Subverse is flooded with shit again and you deleted a relevant post about popular media personality, saying that pizzagate isn't objective. I'm also making a comparison against a non objective conspiracy that the opposition is comparing us to. I'm very busy with a business to run and don't appreciate having to repost.

Are we trump apologists? Do pizzagate mold the narrative to fit the answer we want? That's a common claim made about conspiracy theories and theorists. This video with Stefan taking to a flat earth believer is a great example of the kind of flawed arguments conspiracy theorists are known and stereotyped for: https://youtu.be/hsOz_J6tJVUYouTube

Lionel talks about pizzagate in this vid twice past tense https://youtu.be/5GxPUAcGPv8YouTube

In a past profession I was a sort of professional contrarianistic skeptic involved in economics and markets and studied statistics, probabilities, fallacy, logic, reasoning, scientific methods of discovery, deduction, etc... As such I pride myself in keeping and open mind, being skeptical, not being duped, persuaded in my opinions, etc... This is much easier to do when you stick to more concrete and absolute matters with fewer variables. Making any sort prediction about any outcome Pizzagate related is akin to long range weather forecasting. There are just so many players with so much at stake. I am very distrustful of just about everyone involved. Just about the only thing I trust is the original emails. I believe they were genuine, Podesta has had plenty of opportunities to deny their credibility and he never has, which if they were tampered with he most certainly would have said so. I am very confident that what we think we're seeing here is what it is, these are bad people, doing bad things. I have no doubt about that. We're not immune to wishful thinking, like with the Worldcorpo stuff. We're mostly powerless to prove the case without access to more personal records and information. I don't know that this will ever be properly investigated. We just have to hope that someone will leak something. Or that we get a lucky break and are able to connect the dots. Just because we're not able to do that, doesn't mean that our 'suspicions' and hunches are unfounded. By that argument all unproven criminal cases should be dropped.

I don't know if we're going to get any help from Trump on this or not, this is just so big and deep. But I'm hopeful, and convinced, and not going to let anyone who doesn't really know anything about it get me down because the arguments being made here for the most part are not apologist our self fulfilling.