In the past few days, people have been trying to figure out if Podesta's Pizza Mansion on Google maps was legitimately put there, or if some troll put it there. I've been reading up on how to add a business to Google maps and it is not as easy or simple as people make it out to be.
(note: this is all assuming that the screen shots themselves weren't fake)
Summary of what I found:
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Anyone can add anything to Google Maps, but that doesn't mean it will be viewable and searchable to everyone else - it has to actually be reviewed and accepted by Google Map Maker moderators, which can take several weeks.
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If you want to add a business, you need a Google Business account in order to add verifying information.
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Even if the moderators accept the business you have added, you don't get to pick if your business will have an icon on Google Maps. If you do get an icon (e.g. the fork and spoon icon meant to signify restaurants), that is something you have no control over, Google picks it based on algorithms that determine what kind of business it is.
Source from Google Support:
The place labels shown on Google Maps are determined algorithmically based on a large number of factors. One factor these algorithms consider is the accuracy of the business information and the richness of the content associated with the business.
Verifying your business improves the chances that your business will display with a place label.
Note that business accuracy and Google being able verify the information are important factors.
You can go to the Google support pages about this subject and see pages of people complaining that their businesses are not on the map or showing up with an icon, and the moderators will ask them to verify their businesses.
You must be getting a generic POI/Establishment Place label icon, usually Google Local algorithms is good enough to determine the type of icon, based on the categories used, but sometimes it makes mistakes or take a long time to assign the proper icon.
Could you please provide your business details to investigate and see if we can offer any suggestions
URL of the public Local listing:
Business name (as it is in your account):
Business location: Street address, City, State/Province, Country
Business telephone (as it is in your account):
Business category (e.g. hospital, etc.):
Website:
So as you can see above, first your business needs to be reviewed and approved by moderators, and after you have been approved, to ensure your business gets an icon, you need to provide some actual information that Google can verify either automatically or that moderators can later verify manually.
This makes me wonder how Podesta's Pizza Mansion was accepted, and how it got an icon? If it got the icon automatically, how did Google's algorithms approve of the searchable label and icon, given that it's in the middle of no where and there is no evidence of it being a real place?
I'm not saying that Podesta's Pizza Mansion is real. It could still be a troll. I just wanted to point out that it is not as easy to add a place as others have been claiming it to be.
edit: fixed wrong URL and made the information easier to understand.
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joey4track ago
Well that's good to know and can be checked off the list but still the issue that these caps could be VERY easily faked and everything outside of the name ie the construction etc. is kinda meaningless speculation. Not liking the trend of very speculative pieces like the fatherhood video and this 'podesta mansion' being immediately tossed around claiming to be connected to podesta when there isn't enough to back up the claim. The more people post that fatherhood video or stuff like this 'mansion' on twitter and it turns out to be a dead end it will be very tough when actual evidence comes out to convince people. This is real fucked up shit and big claims we are making, we need to be smarter about this stuff. EDIT: to the grammar Nazi's, I know I didn't capitalize podesta's name but frankly he doesn't deserve it.
islandofdelight ago
I'm more inclined that this is a dead end than the fatherhood video... I feel very strongly about that being the real thing.
joey4track ago
I agree. Mostly because the voice is so similar. I work with audio production and have a pretty good mixing ear and the voices sound very similar to me. That being said, you can't see the guy in the video at all so better to be careful about what we claim.
islandofdelight ago
Right, I agree no need for pitchforks yet but we do need FBI to step in... It's also possible they were responsible for leaking the evidence on worldcorpo... or the efit of the Podesta Bros in Madeleine McCann kidnapping.
EndThePizza ago
Yeah, that's what I find fascinating about the fatherhood video - where did it come from? Did someone go searching through random child abuse videos online until they found one that could plausibly sound like Podesta, and has lighting similar to Comet, and then plant it somewhere for us to find? That would be awfully time consuming and unlikely. Or did someone leak real evidence hoping we'd find it? The latter seems more likely to me.