You can sympathize all you want, but sympathy is best saved for The Devil. I feel compassion for any child preyed upon, but when that child becomes a predator? Nope, there's no excuse. It would be like the victim of a serial killer becoming a serial killer. The victim should be the one to recognize how wrong it is because they've been through it. Stop making excuses. If she were really repentant, she'd come out and name names and take ownership of her story. If she did, I'd have a modicum of respect for her, but right now? None.
I dont know guys some families kiss on the mouth as I often did with my parents and even falling asleep with my head in their laps etc. I think Italian families do this and if she was drunk it could just be sloppy kissing and not be sexual.
OMG! You have got to be kidding me? On what planet is it okay for a married nineteen-year-old to keep kissing someone just turning fifteen on the lips? Repeatedly? That's her all right. The voice is unmistakable. Demi, you're freakin' busted you freak!!!
Unpopular opinion incoming.....If I were 15 and was kissing a 20 year old actress(Demi's age then) I don't think I'd be remotely scarred and would probably try to advance it beyond kissing. I know it's still wrong and if gender was reversed a 20 year old man would be in jail but idk their relationship seems really weird either way.
I, as a woman, found this video extremely disturbing, disgusting and just plain wrong. It is abuse, just because it's a woman doing it does not make it any less. Sick woman. You can See the boy is extremely confused and uncomfortable, he even gets out of having to kiss her again at one stage by cleverly shoving a fork full of food in her mouth, this boy looks so much younger than fifteen, more like 12/13.
I agree with you. According to an article I found, he was 15 and she was 19. If the genders had been reversed people would have been up in arms. I mean, the article I found quotes this as a sweet moment because Demi had a "soft spot" for him. Gross.
Unfortunately, back then this type of behavior would have been even more acceptable to than it is today, so I highly doubt anything will come from this.
What a coincidence!. Ashton & Demi give their trafficking software to law enforcement worldwide for FREE, Ashton testifies before Congress, then like clockwork the smear campaign begins. Don't fall for this garbage, guys.
Have you examined the vid for edits? Ever heard of look-alikes? Green screen deception? There are a million ways they manipulate your thoughts to believe whatever they want you to believe. The REAL Ashton & Demi are awesome ppl doing awesome things. That's precisely why they are smearing them the day after Ashton testified to Congress. Think! You think these things just happen coincidentally?
How many times do we have to find that the people who claim to be working against human trafficking are the ones actually doing the crime, before you see the trend? We've seen this over and over and over and that's without having them on video frenching a child.
Why would we assume that it's green screen? Is that your default position? You start your inquiry with the assumption of green screen? That's no way to investigate. You can't start with an excuse for the person being investigated, there's no basis for it and absolutely nothing suggests it.
Look, I know it's hard to accept how horrible this is. I know. But we can't be in denial.
Look, I'm not gonna argue about it. I said what I had to say. Sorry it offends you, but my opinion is as valid as yours. I didn't attack you for your opinion....but you seem to feel the need to attack others', which in itself is revealing.
But just bcuz ppl disagree, doesn't mean you should start throwing insults around. It's counterproductive & childish....& I promise you, it won't inhibit me from saying what I want to say.
Oh, knock it off, you stupid shill!!!! It's obviously her! The film is not edited as such, there are no sharp transitions in the very awkward kissing scenes. They're continuous. And GOOD DEEDS DON'T NEGATE MOLESTING MINORS!!!! She is one sick puppy and Kutcher must know. I can't believe this ... can't. Ii know she had that horrible relationship with her mother. She was estranged from her and wouldn't let her around her kids, but who was protecting the kids from her?
I'd rather look childish than like a shill covering for pedos. And you calling me childish is priceless. You're defending a grown married woman kissing a child on the lips!
I'm defending Demi & Ashton. Who are not pedos. They work tirelessly for them. Accuse all you need to. I will never shut up. Pedos are the Podestas, Clintons, Soros....you get the pic.
You're defending the woman kissing that child on the lips! Haven't you been reading the evidence? Pedos go where children go! Sandusky had a foundation where he worked "tirelessly" for troubled teens. He even adopted boys ... but to what purpose? So he could molest them! It bothers me when you have evidence thrown right in your face and you deny it. I'm telling you, there were so many people that I thought I admired, but when the evidence is shown, I've been forced to admit I was wrong. I will not admire pedophiles ... will not! They are sick, twisted, and belong in jail and away from kids.
This really happened. Claiming it could be "green screen" or a look-a-like reeks of desperation. Why are you trying so hard to defend them?
Granted, the title is misleading, but that doesn't make this okay to do. And I'm still suspicious of Demi and Ashton since they hang out in Hillary's circle.
The pattern is clear....if this was out there...why did it only get circulated the day after Ashton testified. They do this kind of thing all day long & ppl just jump on the bandwagon w/out even thinking.
Probably because people have been digging on Ashton and THORN since pizzagate started? This isn't new for us. The search was renewed after his hamfisted congress speech and wink to John McCain.
Not that anything could justify her behavior, I wonder when this was, who this boy is, and what his relationship to Demi (Thorn Co-Founder) Moore is. Anyone know? I also wonder, now with Ashton Kutcher making news with Thorn, how long it will be until this video starts making rounds on social media, if at all.
I further add: Considering net worth and income of the gift-givers, BW's gift to AC is probably comparable to the monetary gifts I gave my niece and nephew for graduation.
Yes, celebrities are weird as fuck, and I don't really give two shits about what Bruce Willis does with his ADULT wife, or ANY ADULT. What I DO give a lot of shits about is COMPLETELY UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS of pedophilia appearing on this subverse. As if things aren't difficult enough without such clutter. If you really think this discussion is worth continuing, by all means keep digging. @@
The fact is Aaron Carter's mother was able to prove to a court that Bruce Willis gave her teenaged son $1 million dollars worth in gifts. Why does Bruce Willis, a grown man, even know this kid and why is he showering him with gifts?
Don't ask me. That should have been your job. ANY suggestion that any person might be a pedophile, the worst accusation in the world, is SERIOUS. Nobody, including celebrities, is fair game for pot shots. Considering the serious nature of this whole investigation, your comment about BW is, so far, the equivalent of gossip, and has no place here as it stands. I'm still waiting for ANYTHING that will support your suggestion. So far, your back-up team has given me "You sound like an idiot," and a claim that I'm a panicky Mason. This whole thread is VERY disappointing. I wish I would have left it alone, instead of bringing attention to it.
Id like to point out that he did say they were rumours, you asked what he had and he gave it to you. Now your attacking him for doing what you asked. You look, like an idiot.
NO, he pointed out a monetary gift, a lawsuit, and a birthday party, as evidence enough to suspect BW is a pedophile. "Bruce Wilis and teenage boys." I have yet to see ONE single rumor, let alone evidence, that Bruce Willis has had any suspicious encounters with teenage boys, other than this suggestion by Mad__As_Hell. I've looked, there is none. Prove me wrong.
I've just pointed you towards two rumours relating to Bruce and teenaged boys, a quick google will show you numerous threads on gossip forums about them.
I don't see it. Don't point, post links. I have no more time for googling this shit. I'm not interested in celebrity gossip. I see that I've totally lost all ground here, so I'll leave you all to it. Hang em high folks. smh
I've lost ground how? You're the one opting out here. I said there were rumours, you asked for evidence, I posted some. Yeah it is celebrity gossip, as is a lot of other stuff discussed here seeing as MSM are highly unlikely to post anything that inflammatory about Hollywood folk. If you're too lazy to google so be it.
I care a lot about the integrity of this investigation. We're getting more lurkers every day. This business with Thorn could turn out to be really important. Adding unsubstantiated and/or unnecessary gossip to comments is a great invitation for ridicule, and it worries me when I see it happen. I spent a considerable portion of my morning on this, including searching for anything I could find that might support your suggestion. You really couldn't resist that final rim shot. Good one.
What world are you living in where an old man giving a teenager a million dollars worth of gifts is okay? Adjusted for inflation you're looking at $1,300,000+ worth of gifts. No way in hell does that look good.
go kiss on a 10 year old girl on the lips like that and report back( you wouldn't come back because her dad would crush your skull if he's a decent human).
Holy shit.... you can tell shes drugged out or still messed up from the MK ULTRA programming, has very nervous weird head movement and patterns and shes making strange muscle movements with her mouth and facial muscles. Fucking Hollywood creeps....
quantokitty ago
You can sympathize all you want, but sympathy is best saved for The Devil. I feel compassion for any child preyed upon, but when that child becomes a predator? Nope, there's no excuse. It would be like the victim of a serial killer becoming a serial killer. The victim should be the one to recognize how wrong it is because they've been through it. Stop making excuses. If she were really repentant, she'd come out and name names and take ownership of her story. If she did, I'd have a modicum of respect for her, but right now? None.
k9walker ago
I dont know guys some families kiss on the mouth as I often did with my parents and even falling asleep with my head in their laps etc. I think Italian families do this and if she was drunk it could just be sloppy kissing and not be sexual.
dmthirdeye ago
On one of Bruce and Demi's troubled children. Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll. http://www.ivygateblog.com/2012/03/terry-richardson-tried-to-finger-me-demi-moores-21-year-old-daughter-secretly-tweets-heavy-drug-use-graphic-sex-life-at-brown/
Just realized this ties right back into pedogate again with that sick fuck Terry Richardson. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/03/09/article-2112433-12170DC2000005DC-449_634x468.jpg http://www.celebitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/wenn200206231.jpg
I guess Richardson has a thing for MK ULTRA girls
http://www.bkmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/7b0bf9dc6a2344c17dea05e2030542f2.jpg https://static1.squarespace.com/static/553fdbaee4b0d82b91dbde7d/555c33ede4b038a47a3f471b/554bb73ee4b0be04c85a2d51/1431030222902/lohan2-560x436.jpg
http://fashionwhipped.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/terry-richardson-emily-ratajkowski-4-958x640.jpg http://mankindunplugged.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Miley-Cyrus-Terry-Richardson-Studio-7.jpg http://images.thehollywoodgossip.com/iu/t_full/v1381857946/paris-hilton-and-terry-richardson.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/75/14/f8/7514f8052b1ca38a8bafc84a4275eca6.jpg
dmthirdeye ago
Also a guy drowned in Demi Moore's pool in 2015. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/20/man-found-dead-in-demi-moores-swimming-pool/?utm_term=.7bc3d15e467d
dmthirdeye ago
It was always weird when Demi and Ashton got married in the first place, with a 15 year difference in age..... always knew it was something strange.
quantokitty ago
OMG! You have got to be kidding me? On what planet is it okay for a married nineteen-year-old to keep kissing someone just turning fifteen on the lips? Repeatedly? That's her all right. The voice is unmistakable. Demi, you're freakin' busted you freak!!!
PGTAway818949 ago
Unpopular opinion incoming.....If I were 15 and was kissing a 20 year old actress(Demi's age then) I don't think I'd be remotely scarred and would probably try to advance it beyond kissing. I know it's still wrong and if gender was reversed a 20 year old man would be in jail but idk their relationship seems really weird either way.
dmthirdeye ago
Aaaaand its still child molestation and pedophilia.
micha_ ago
Jesus, but with Demi something really is not ok!
emeraldeye ago
I, as a woman, found this video extremely disturbing, disgusting and just plain wrong. It is abuse, just because it's a woman doing it does not make it any less. Sick woman. You can See the boy is extremely confused and uncomfortable, he even gets out of having to kiss her again at one stage by cleverly shoving a fork full of food in her mouth, this boy looks so much younger than fifteen, more like 12/13.
ConcernedParent2 ago
I agree with you. According to an article I found, he was 15 and she was 19. If the genders had been reversed people would have been up in arms. I mean, the article I found quotes this as a sweet moment because Demi had a "soft spot" for him. Gross.
Unfortunately, back then this type of behavior would have been even more acceptable to than it is today, so I highly doubt anything will come from this.
chordwonder ago
What a coincidence!. Ashton & Demi give their trafficking software to law enforcement worldwide for FREE, Ashton testifies before Congress, then like clockwork the smear campaign begins. Don't fall for this garbage, guys.
micha_ ago
So I guess you want to tell us her behaviour is totally normal?
chordwonder ago
Have you examined the vid for edits? Ever heard of look-alikes? Green screen deception? There are a million ways they manipulate your thoughts to believe whatever they want you to believe. The REAL Ashton & Demi are awesome ppl doing awesome things. That's precisely why they are smearing them the day after Ashton testified to Congress. Think! You think these things just happen coincidentally?
heywhatsgoingon ago
How many times do we have to find that the people who claim to be working against human trafficking are the ones actually doing the crime, before you see the trend? We've seen this over and over and over and that's without having them on video frenching a child.
chordwonder ago
They can use that tactic either way, you know?
heywhatsgoingon ago
Why would we assume that it's green screen? Is that your default position? You start your inquiry with the assumption of green screen? That's no way to investigate. You can't start with an excuse for the person being investigated, there's no basis for it and absolutely nothing suggests it.
Look, I know it's hard to accept how horrible this is. I know. But we can't be in denial.
chordwonder ago
Look, I'm not gonna argue about it. I said what I had to say. Sorry it offends you, but my opinion is as valid as yours. I didn't attack you for your opinion....but you seem to feel the need to attack others', which in itself is revealing.
chordwonder ago
But just bcuz ppl disagree, doesn't mean you should start throwing insults around. It's counterproductive & childish....& I promise you, it won't inhibit me from saying what I want to say.
Pizzagatebelieveit ago
Ashton blew a kiss to McCain in congress so he is not on my "good things" list.
quantokitty ago
Oh, knock it off, you stupid shill!!!! It's obviously her! The film is not edited as such, there are no sharp transitions in the very awkward kissing scenes. They're continuous. And GOOD DEEDS DON'T NEGATE MOLESTING MINORS!!!! She is one sick puppy and Kutcher must know. I can't believe this ... can't. Ii know she had that horrible relationship with her mother. She was estranged from her and wouldn't let her around her kids, but who was protecting the kids from her?
chordwonder ago
Your name calling wont shut me up. It just makes you like childish.
quantokitty ago
I'd rather look childish than like a shill covering for pedos. And you calling me childish is priceless. You're defending a grown married woman kissing a child on the lips!
chordwonder ago
I'm defending Demi & Ashton. Who are not pedos. They work tirelessly for them. Accuse all you need to. I will never shut up. Pedos are the Podestas, Clintons, Soros....you get the pic.
dmthirdeye ago
She was 20 years old and the kid was 15, its literally a video of her molesting a child. Please stop now.
quantokitty ago
You're defending the woman kissing that child on the lips! Haven't you been reading the evidence? Pedos go where children go! Sandusky had a foundation where he worked "tirelessly" for troubled teens. He even adopted boys ... but to what purpose? So he could molest them! It bothers me when you have evidence thrown right in your face and you deny it. I'm telling you, there were so many people that I thought I admired, but when the evidence is shown, I've been forced to admit I was wrong. I will not admire pedophiles ... will not! They are sick, twisted, and belong in jail and away from kids.
chordwonder ago
Anyone who dares to disagree gets attacked. Works on most, but not me.
ConcernedParent2 ago
This really happened. Claiming it could be "green screen" or a look-a-like reeks of desperation. Why are you trying so hard to defend them?
Granted, the title is misleading, but that doesn't make this okay to do. And I'm still suspicious of Demi and Ashton since they hang out in Hillary's circle.
chordwonder ago
The pattern is clear....if this was out there...why did it only get circulated the day after Ashton testified. They do this kind of thing all day long & ppl just jump on the bandwagon w/out even thinking.
ConcernedParent2 ago
Probably because people have been digging on Ashton and THORN since pizzagate started? This isn't new for us. The search was renewed after his hamfisted congress speech and wink to John McCain.
dmthirdeye ago
Are you fucking retarded?
chordwonder ago
Do you have a valid response, or just wanna throw insults?
rooting4redpillers ago
Not that anything could justify her behavior, I wonder when this was, who this boy is, and what his relationship to Demi (Thorn Co-Founder) Moore is. Anyone know? I also wonder, now with Ashton Kutcher making news with Thorn, how long it will be until this video starts making rounds on social media, if at all.
Yuke ago
He says in the video that his name is Philip Tanzini.
roundhouse1776 ago
Philip Tanzini, her co-star on General Hospital. This is his 15th birthday party, so must be 1982.
ConcernedParent2 ago
Umm wtf??
Mad_As_Hell ago
That's messed up. Lot of rumours about her ex-husband Bruce and teenage boys too
rooting4redpillers ago
"Bruce and teenage boys," I don't believe it. What rumors? Please elaborate.
Mad_As_Hell ago
He gave Aaron Carter (aged 15 at the time) over $1 million in gifts, as revealed in a lawsuit http://popdirt.com/bruce-willis-spends-big-bucks-on-aaron-carter/25149/
Was originally reported by MSNBC but article appears to have been deleted.
Some talk of him and Zac Efron too, who holidayed with the family under guise of being his daughter Rumer's boyfriend
rooting4redpillers ago
Gifts and "some talk" don't justify such accusations. Maybe that MSNBC article was deleted for good reason.
dmthirdeye ago
A million dollars in gifts certainly does justify it. If the shoe fits.
Aniabub ago
Unlike that guy, you convinced me its suss and im shattered
rooting4redpillers ago
Certainly? Okay, have fun with your fantasy.
I further add: Considering net worth and income of the gift-givers, BW's gift to AC is probably comparable to the monetary gifts I gave my niece and nephew for graduation.
dmthirdeye ago
Fantasy? Because Brucey is not weird right lol him and his new wifes honeymoon photo set is interesting. http://www.wmagazine.com/gallery/bruce-emma-willis-ss?showall=true#1
Aniabub ago
What. The fuck. Is that.
rooting4redpillers ago
Yes, celebrities are weird as fuck, and I don't really give two shits about what Bruce Willis does with his ADULT wife, or ANY ADULT. What I DO give a lot of shits about is COMPLETELY UNSUBSTANTIATED ACCUSATIONS of pedophilia appearing on this subverse. As if things aren't difficult enough without such clutter. If you really think this discussion is worth continuing, by all means keep digging. @@
Mad_As_Hell ago
The fact is Aaron Carter's mother was able to prove to a court that Bruce Willis gave her teenaged son $1 million dollars worth in gifts. Why does Bruce Willis, a grown man, even know this kid and why is he showering him with gifts?
rooting4redpillers ago
Don't ask me. That should have been your job. ANY suggestion that any person might be a pedophile, the worst accusation in the world, is SERIOUS. Nobody, including celebrities, is fair game for pot shots. Considering the serious nature of this whole investigation, your comment about BW is, so far, the equivalent of gossip, and has no place here as it stands. I'm still waiting for ANYTHING that will support your suggestion. So far, your back-up team has given me "You sound like an idiot," and a claim that I'm a panicky Mason. This whole thread is VERY disappointing. I wish I would have left it alone, instead of bringing attention to it.
Mad_As_Hell ago
I said there were rumours, that is all. Look at original comment. I never said anything about you being an idiot or Masons, that was other commenters.
Aniabub ago
Id like to point out that he did say they were rumours, you asked what he had and he gave it to you. Now your attacking him for doing what you asked. You look, like an idiot.
rooting4redpillers ago
NO, he pointed out a monetary gift, a lawsuit, and a birthday party, as evidence enough to suspect BW is a pedophile. "Bruce Wilis and teenage boys." I have yet to see ONE single rumor, let alone evidence, that Bruce Willis has had any suspicious encounters with teenage boys, other than this suggestion by Mad__As_Hell. I've looked, there is none. Prove me wrong.
Mad_As_Hell ago
I've just pointed you towards two rumours relating to Bruce and teenaged boys, a quick google will show you numerous threads on gossip forums about them.
rooting4redpillers ago
I don't see it. Don't point, post links. I have no more time for googling this shit. I'm not interested in celebrity gossip. I see that I've totally lost all ground here, so I'll leave you all to it. Hang em high folks. smh
Mad_As_Hell ago
I've lost ground how? You're the one opting out here. I said there were rumours, you asked for evidence, I posted some. Yeah it is celebrity gossip, as is a lot of other stuff discussed here seeing as MSM are highly unlikely to post anything that inflammatory about Hollywood folk. If you're too lazy to google so be it.
rooting4redpillers ago
I care a lot about the integrity of this investigation. We're getting more lurkers every day. This business with Thorn could turn out to be really important. Adding unsubstantiated and/or unnecessary gossip to comments is a great invitation for ridicule, and it worries me when I see it happen. I spent a considerable portion of my morning on this, including searching for anything I could find that might support your suggestion. You really couldn't resist that final rim shot. Good one.
ConcernedParent2 ago
What world are you living in where an old man giving a teenager a million dollars worth of gifts is okay? Adjusted for inflation you're looking at $1,300,000+ worth of gifts. No way in hell does that look good.
Aniabub ago
I think you missed my point. You asked for what he had and he gave it to you. The fact you didnt find it relevant enough doesnt mean anything.
dmthirdeye ago
Just another mason panicking while watching the house of cards tumble down, don't even bother.
Aniabub ago
No matter how many times i see it the stupidity bafles me. Good job with that stuff btw.
Oldno7 ago
She was married to Ashton Kutcher. Same foundation he was talking about to congress...
TruthIsMyReligion ago
Link to the vid with time stamp: https://youtu.be/g_8nRdPxCb0?t=1m16s
oneposteach ago
What did he say at 5 min in, "and the true (can't understand)"
heywhatsgoingon ago
wtf...
bahhumbugger ago
That is too weird
slickleg64 ago
"molesting"
jv209 ago
go kiss on a 10 year old girl on the lips like that and report back( you wouldn't come back because her dad would crush your skull if he's a decent human).
micha_ ago
Well, you are talking about mentally healthy people...
mvrak ago
Does not appear safe to click?
dmthirdeye ago
Holy shit.... you can tell shes drugged out or still messed up from the MK ULTRA programming, has very nervous weird head movement and patterns and shes making strange muscle movements with her mouth and facial muscles. Fucking Hollywood creeps....
neurofluxation ago
Can anyone read her lips just before she kisses him?