How can James Alefantis possibly defend or explain THIS instagram photo? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by DawnofTruth

There is SO much material to sort through. From Podesta, HIllary, Comet Pizza and everything else that's directly and indirectly related but I just came across this archived Instagram.

http://archive.is/04A48

Now correct me if I'm wrong or not seeing this art piece in its true form but, this looks like a man having sex with a little girl. No? But if yes (and it's not a small adult female midget) Dear Jimmy, Please sir, please consider going on Clinton's network CNN and clear your good name & important reputation and explain why you had a desire to upload this to your instagram account. Because for some reason, most of this country has mistaken you for some perverted gay sadistic pedophile with a shade of darkness few have ever seen before.

Thanks buddy!

Sincerely, The United States of awaken Americans

OhRutherfordBehave ago

So crazy how apparent everything has become since we learned about PizzaGate.

V____Z ago

Fuck off. A simple request to put the warning that someone's about to get a face full of penetration BEFORE the link, rather than right after it, is not too much to ask.

wearesven ago

UMMM WTF http://alainelkanninterviews.com/cicciolina/ "But I told the psychologist in New York that I suspected my husband was a psychopath. I walked in on him nude on the bed while our child was playing with his genitals, and I told him, “It’s not nice to do that with a child.” I certainly saw other horrible things, but I can’t tell you about them. In other words, my husband is mad as a hatter.”"

DawnofTruth ago

Wow. Interesting. So because some people believe this is his wife and not a child (which I believe this subject to be) we should ignore the fact the artists' wife went on record stating ".....I certainly saw other horrible things...but I can't tell you..."

Oh okay folks. Nothing to see here. This is just a photo of a nice reputable artist who fondled his child in which James Alefantis took a liking to and felt a need to share it with all his customers and friends.

Carry on............ (end sarcasm)

abortionburger ago

Wow. This probably deserves its own post.

davezzzz5 ago

NSFW tags please. Thank you.

DawnofTruth ago

I did tag this NSFW. Am sorta new to Voat but I thought I did what I needed. I did put a warning before my post just now.

I apologize to anyone I might have offended. This isn't about shock-posting. It is about explanation.

V____Z ago

Please amend this post to put the warning that you're about to see a little girl being raped BEFORE the link, not after. Thanks.

DawnofTruth ago

I checked off NSFW. I thought that let people know. I'm sorry. I will edit to add.

The_Invincible_Moose ago

And please put it immediately above the link.

DawnofTruth ago

Not sure how to do that. Do you mean --- in the title itself?

Where are the Mods? Can a Mod help out here please?

The_Invincible_Moose ago

Sorry, I was referring to this, not the NSFW:

(this might be offensive to some viewers)

neurofluxation ago

This is what pisses me off about this "community"... What makes you think she is being raped or even underage?

As a disclaimer, I believe Pedosta is a sick fuck. I believe shit is going on.
But this is just pure assumption isn't it?

DawnofTruth ago

Ummm, I NEVER said raped.

What makes me think it's possibly someone underage? Well, her extremely small buttocks and child-like skin. It was ONLY my opinion FFS.

Let's get passed this impasse. Let me ask YOU......even if this was a 'woman' who is 18 or 99.....why does family-friendly Comet Ping Pong have this uploaded on his FUCKING public instagram page???????

neurofluxation ago

Sorry...? The "rape" comment was aimed at another user (V____Z).
Also, I have edited my post with a citation on who the model is. It's the photographers wife. Ilona Staller.

V____Z ago

This is not an adult. Ergo, this is not consenting = rape. The community has long ago decided this picture is of an underage female. Are you disputing that now?

neurofluxation ago

I have never seen this picture before. But this comment also says the same.

Look... I agree it's not pertinent for a Pizza Parlour Instagram page, but we should look at more concrete leads like the dodgy videos from worldcorp and the stuff we KNOW is dodgy. Not things that we ASSUME are dodgy... Can you give me a citation that this girl is underage..?!

Edit:

In 1989 the Whitney Museum and its guest curator Marvin Heiferman asked Koons to make an artwork about the media on a billboard[8] for the show "Image World: Art and Media Culture". Koons employed his then wife Ilona Staller ("Cicciolina") as a model in the shoot that formed the basis of the resulting work for the Whitney, Made in Heaven (1990–91).[34] Including works with such titles as Dirty Ejaculation and Ilonaʼs Asshole, the series of enormous grainy[35] photographs printed on canvas, glassworks, and sculptures portrayed Koons and Staller in highly explicit sexual positions and created considerable controversy. The paintings of the series reference art from the Baroque and Rococo periods—among others, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Jean-Honoré Fragonard and François Boucher—and also draw upon the breakthroughs of early modern painters as Gustave Courbet and Édouard Manet.[36] The series was first shown at the 1990 Venice Biennale.[37] Koons reportedly destroyed much of the work when Staller took their son Ludwig with her to Italy.[38] In celebration of Made in Heaven's 20th anniversary, Luxembourg & Dayan chose to present a redux edition of the series.[36][39][40] The Whitney Museum also exhibited several of the photographs on canvas in their 2014 retrospective.

**Koons employed his then wife Ilona Staller ("Cicciolina") as a model **

Tanngrisnir ago

This isn't really evidence since it is of a then married couple. Although, ironically, Cicciolina tried to escape with Jeff Koons kid claiming abuse. Koons then set up the dirty as fuck ICMEC (International Centre of Missing and Exploited Children) which has Clinton ties. It wouldn't surprise me if he was sexually abusing his kid.

V____Z ago

Good point, thanks for the correction.

neurofluxation ago

No worries. It's nice that I haven't actually had a proper proper argument on this subverse yet... I've had more apologies than nasty encounters...

Keep it up people! :D

V____Z ago

What I realized though, it doesn't matter what the actual age of this model is, this is art depicting a comparatively small female body being penetrated by a large man. The facts behind the art piece don't not change that this is a very pedosexual depiction. If it looks like sex with a small girl, isn't that damning enough?

153sdsd ago

There is a whole youtube video about this picture, the girl is not young, still not kosher for a pizza instagram, but not uncommon for instagram as a whole, that being said, lets get Alefantis before he runs, there is already too much stuff, and freaking podesta or his brother

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Sometime I just feel like I woke up in the Matrix! No wonder God will send Jesus back here!

DawnofTruth ago

I am a spiritual not religious being but I think what is happening since the advent of the world wide web is: we're being steered away from all the pretty lies and put right in the path of a shitload of ugly truths.

These ugly truths have always been there mind ya...they've just been denied or candy-coated as fodder for us sheeple to graze on.

But I feel we, as empathic humans are in the process of recalibrating our psyches (to accept all these horrific realities) while still protecting our hearts. It's a paradox for sure but it's also a great awakening too. Things WILL get worse before they ever begin to get better so buckle up......

BlueBloodNate ago

I think you need to understand that Jesus never died on a cross. You are the new Jesus. Get to it.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Well, I do agree we who are awake are being called upon to help.

BlueBloodNate ago

You are probably related to Jesus, that's cool. So it's in your DNA, get me?

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Yep

21yearsofdigging ago

Family friendly. My God. At the Whitney no less

BlueBloodNate ago

It's Jeff Koons who worked with Gaga.

ConcernedParent2 ago

It's apparently an adult woman (some porn star, edit: her name is Cicciolina), but it's obviously meant to look like they're having sex with a kid. Even if it wasn't, JA never did explain (nor did the "journalists") why the hell a "family friendly" business owner was posting porn on his public social media account.

DawnofTruth ago

I think we're on the same side so this isn't an attack, but did someone conduct some buttock comparison test?...because honestly, when someone is dealing with this caliber of perversion....their statements become extremely dubious, questionable and suspect at best.

I mean....would we expect 'damage control' to say anything other than this was an adult?

ConcernedParent2 ago

Well, you can look at his wife's porn clips and look at the entire series, I don't have any doubt it's her, even she said it was. And she hate Jeff Koons, I just read an interview of her claiming he was a psycho and she took her son away from him because he was a dangerous pervert.

DawnofTruth ago

Interesting. I'm not in any position to dispute you because these people are all new to me. But I will have to make an assumption then. And that's she must be (or once was) a very slight and petite woman.

Even though (if true) your explanation does make this a little easier to accept...I still have to question James Alefantis. If this is a small window into his judgment-process (let alone, his taste) then I really have to wonder what else he feels is acceptable in (public) life.

ConcernedParent2 ago

That is the issue with me as well. Adult porn or no, why the hell would you think that was okay to post on your public social media account? To me, it speaks volumes about what kind of life he lives and who he is friends with if he can post filth like that and not see it as "bad".

wearesven ago

http://alainelkanninterviews.com/cicciolina/ "But I told the psychologist in New York that I suspected my husband was a psychopath. I walked in on him nude on the bed while our child was playing with his genitals, and I told him, “It’s not nice to do that with a child.” I certainly saw other horrible things, but I can’t tell you about them. In other words, my husband is mad as a hatter.”"

ConcernedParent2 ago

What the fuck? I don't remember reading this. Perhaps you should make a new thread about this subject, this seems like important information we might have missed. That entire interview is eye opening.

BlueBloodNate ago

It's Jeff Koons, who is friends with Marina and Gaga. I wouldn't be surprised if these artists are used to launder money. Get me?

ConcernedParent2 ago

Yeah, it's him with his first wife, he has a whole "art" series of them having sex. His first wife is also a politician, so I'm sure there is some shady shit going on.

BlueBloodNate ago

It is devoid of eroticism. Bleak view of sexuality, sterile wrapped up in the soft lighting of gimmick.

BlueBloodNate ago

This is a poorly taken pornographic picture in my opinion. The emperor has no clothes.