Love it. The elite have one of their Hollywood operatives take over a cause, then promptly redefine it so as to defend the elite.
Child trafficking he defines as something that takes place in Cambodia, by Western tourists. And the victims are girls, who think they're playing.
When what pizzagate is uncovering is that our own government is flying in hot dogs to the White House, and supporting pizza shops whose owner calls babies "hotards", and that the kids don't think they're playing, the kids are screaming in terror so loud you can hear it from the street outside Comet.
Sure it takes place in Thailand and Cambodia, and yes, middle class men go over and rent these kids for sex, but what is happening in America is not conspiracy theory, and his framing of child trafficking as something that happens "over there" is very disturbing.
not wanting to be harsh, but I have a criticism (in general).
I want these places where we spend time to have a touch more humanity to them. I can't stand these bandwagons of yeah let's get on and snark together because "liberals". Liberals are people too, Conservatives are people too. I've even heard libertarian are, sometimes when they aren't robots. Do you want to be just another dumphuk that lets the elites divide us with these labels?
Why do we have to find one guy who is actually appearing to try to do something, and have a bash party?
I think it sux.
Ok I'm down off my soapbox, thanks for allowing me to do that on your comment. ; )
I hear everything you're saying, however for my part, my responses to people are nuanced. I don't trust Alex Jones, based on my research and gut instinct, whilst I do trust David Seaman, based on many years of experience following him. My gut instinct with Ashton and his appearance today is 100% red flags. This isn't about bashing libs for me, i was a Bernie fan and a lifelong Dem. And even if i want for a hero to rise up and help us, i am not going to allow this desire to drown out the red flags when they arise. (This too was general, and thank you for allowing me to use your comment to further my thoughts)
Ok I hear you. I looked at it glass half full I guess. As part of the Trump commitment to making some moves on this shit, with Sessions. Better climate and all. All the busts going down and an very pointed speech by a celeb to congress (guarantees they'll show up).
Yeah, I hear you. I guess I'm miffed that since he has such a huge platform, he should have included the abuse coming from the top, not just the middle level nobodies we've known about forever. I don't want anyone watering down or diverting our investigation. He could easily drown out all that we've been uncovering with regard to DC, the Podesta leaks, and the history including Franklin Scandal. Why doesn't he mention that? I have some ideas why.
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V____Z ago
Love it. The elite have one of their Hollywood operatives take over a cause, then promptly redefine it so as to defend the elite.
Child trafficking he defines as something that takes place in Cambodia, by Western tourists. And the victims are girls, who think they're playing.
When what pizzagate is uncovering is that our own government is flying in hot dogs to the White House, and supporting pizza shops whose owner calls babies "hotards", and that the kids don't think they're playing, the kids are screaming in terror so loud you can hear it from the street outside Comet.
Sure it takes place in Thailand and Cambodia, and yes, middle class men go over and rent these kids for sex, but what is happening in America is not conspiracy theory, and his framing of child trafficking as something that happens "over there" is very disturbing.
VieBleu ago
His statement said America.
V____Z ago
Oh, good. I should have listened more carefully. It didn't seem to reflect what we've been learning here, though.
VieBleu ago
not wanting to be harsh, but I have a criticism (in general).
I want these places where we spend time to have a touch more humanity to them. I can't stand these bandwagons of yeah let's get on and snark together because "liberals". Liberals are people too, Conservatives are people too. I've even heard libertarian are, sometimes when they aren't robots. Do you want to be just another dumphuk that lets the elites divide us with these labels?
Why do we have to find one guy who is actually appearing to try to do something, and have a bash party?
I think it sux.
Ok I'm down off my soapbox, thanks for allowing me to do that on your comment. ; )
V____Z ago
I hear everything you're saying, however for my part, my responses to people are nuanced. I don't trust Alex Jones, based on my research and gut instinct, whilst I do trust David Seaman, based on many years of experience following him. My gut instinct with Ashton and his appearance today is 100% red flags. This isn't about bashing libs for me, i was a Bernie fan and a lifelong Dem. And even if i want for a hero to rise up and help us, i am not going to allow this desire to drown out the red flags when they arise. (This too was general, and thank you for allowing me to use your comment to further my thoughts)
VieBleu ago
Ok I hear you. I looked at it glass half full I guess. As part of the Trump commitment to making some moves on this shit, with Sessions. Better climate and all. All the busts going down and an very pointed speech by a celeb to congress (guarantees they'll show up).
I appreciate the discussion.
V____Z ago
Yeah, I hear you. I guess I'm miffed that since he has such a huge platform, he should have included the abuse coming from the top, not just the middle level nobodies we've known about forever. I don't want anyone watering down or diverting our investigation. He could easily drown out all that we've been uncovering with regard to DC, the Podesta leaks, and the history including Franklin Scandal. Why doesn't he mention that? I have some ideas why.
VieBleu ago
Have faith - no one is going to water us down! No way.
Every trafficker broken is a win. If he's helped even a few hundred out of being trafficked, imagine the difference in their lives.
I predict he will respond to pizzagate citizens positively in the months ahead. Let's wait and see.
V____Z ago
We'll meet again in two months and see if he's mentioned it, helped or responded to us, or not. Sounds good!
VieBleu ago
It's a date! But I'd give him till June or so.
V____Z ago
Ok see you in June ;)