I just want to say that because of the great work that you are all doing in fighting for the children, some survivors might now feel that someone has their backs and may come forward with their stories. I think it's already happening and slowly victims and their parents are coming forward.
I just want to remind everyone that the victims may be suffering from PTSD.. Please be sensitive to their needs. This guy has done a fabulous interview with this mother: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkYoMWcH8Ok He let her speak, tell her story and followed her lead. I thought David Seaman could have been a bit more sensitive to Becki Percy. If anyone interviews a victim, just be mindful that these people have been living in a hostile environment where they haven't been believed. Be a soft place for them to fall and not a triggering factor for them.
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Sh0ts ago
I'm person with several family members who have made SRA claims and I can tell you this... its a very hard situation. Its hard to hear about it, its hard to believe even coming from trusted family members. I know these things have not been talked about in my family in quite a few years, its just not something you can bring up and if they dont want to talk about it then there isn't much one can do. If you know someone who has suffered from SRA just listen if they want to talk. They know most people are going to dismiss them so whatever you do dont show skepticism (even if thats how you feel). Its only going to make them feel worse.
rodeo13 ago
Thank you for telling your story, sh0ts.
commontruthseeker ago
Do any you have any information you could share of their stories? Things that could shed light on motive, purpose, method? Do they all have secret rooms, tunnels, etc? Very sorry your loved ones went through this hell.
Sh0ts ago
Edit: Posted this before but got taken down. Just copy past as a response to commontruthseekers question.
Okay so this may not be super relevant to this sub but I wanted to post it and let you all decide and ask me questions if you want.
When I was around 12 (this was the late 80's early 90's) my father had a nervous break down and was essentially bed ridden for a few months. He started going to a therapist and eventually came forward with the claim that he and all of his sisters (5) in total had been ritualistically abused for years at the hands of his step father and a ring of abusers that he seemed to think had ties to free masons. These memory's he claimed had been repressed and only surfaced via therapy sessions. He approached his siblings some of whom corroborated this story. Eventually the whole group met at our house some of them flying in from across the country and sat down to talk about what they all knew or thought had happened. Eventually all of them came to the conclusion that it was real and they talked about the details at length. I am only privy to a very small amount of the details as I was young and telling me about exactly what they said they went though was deemed not appropriate by my family.
What I know: 1)Sexual abuse and physical abuse including rape, cutting, and beating.
2)Several of my aunts claim to have been impregnated and had the baby aborted or carried to term and taken away.
3)Some of them reported the abusers had "non human faces" (I take this to mean they wore masks but take from it what you will) and some drawings were produced by a few of them. What I saw seemed to show people with overly large eyes and or horns, also dog like faces.
4)The abusers performed some sort of rituals during the abuse that all the victims now consider satanic in nature.
5)The step father in question had abandoned the family years before these revelations and no one seemed to be able to track him down or even confirm if he was still living.
After they had "the meeting" They confronted their mother (my grandmother) who they all had a good relationship with about this and she claimed to have no knowledge of any of it. This was a bit a of a wedge for the family for quite a few years though it seems it blew over as she aged and eventually passed away.
You may notice I have used the word claimed in the description and that is because myself and the rest of the family were always highly skeptical of all of this. It has only been in the last few years that I have come to be less skeptical due to my personal research into SRA and child abuse in general. Truth be told I still don't know what to think. The subject has not been spoken of in my family for many years. I myself have no memory of abuse outside of what I would call mild physical and psychological abuse by my father for a brief period before his mental break down. I also knew this step father (my step grandfather) when I was very young and I have only fond memories. The only other thing of note is that portions of the family had been involved with Jehovah's witnesses off and on since at least the 70s. My parents are currently members of the JW church, I am not.
Feel free to ask me questions but I have given the information I have as far as I can recall.
Forgetmenot ago
This is very interesting and I want to say when pizzagate first was revealed early on i was following it very closely, simply lurking mind you. I had 2 strange incidents. One a white van showed up and parked directly in front of my house. It was jehovs witnesses but they only came to my house. I did not open the door and told them trough an open window from the second floor that I was a believer and to keep fighting the god fight. I promptly notified the police and when they arrived they left. They kind of walked around outside loitering. The jokes about being v&s were not lost on me. Also another jehovas witness showed up covered in tatoos and piercings telling me she was overcoming her fear of public speaking and wouldn't I agree that public speaking was scary. That she was terrified to speak in public and shouldn't I be? Well I promptly closed the door and thought am I being paranoid? I wrote it off at the time: So who knows but the jehovas witness connection may need to be explored.
Sh0ts ago
I know all about JW's so ask away. I would say on the surface most of them are harmless and not much different from your average bible thumper. However they are into that whole cover up molestation thing for sure. They consider it a sin between god and the sinner and actively protect molesters. They also do this pretty nasty confession type thing for people who end up cheating in their marriage or have sex outside marriage. Basically a group of "elders" (old men) take the offender into a back room and force them to tell all the details of what happened. I have several female ex JW friends who experienced this and it was the reason they left the church. I wouldn't peg the organization as pedos personally but they deffinatly have some twisted ideas about whats okay and what isnt.
Interesting about the tattooed person.. JW's are deeply against body modification so that doesn't fit. If a person had lots of tattoos they could still join but any piercings outside ear for woman would not be allowed for an active member. Something fishy with that encounter.
Forgetmenot ago
I now wonder about all of that but it seems so far fetched I will admit at the time it really made me paranoid. I am truly so technology inept all I do is pray and downvoat or upvoat. Pretty much. It was really weird. And your post brought it back to mind. They may pretend to be JWs in order to approach vulnerable families....who knows this is so speculative.
Sh0ts ago
As a former member of JW I can tell you with out question that on one would be allowed to "witness" the term they use for going door to door if they had body modifications outside earrings for women. Even then I recall issues with women having more than one ear piercing they considered that questionable. DO NOT let a person looking like that claiming to be JW into your home. JW's will be well dressed not black and while like LDS but humble dress clothes for sure. As a rule dont invite any strangers in imo.
Sh0ts ago
I know some things but nothing I would call evidence. I actually made a post about it a while back that got taken down because not directly related to pizzagate and thats cool there has to be some order here. let me see maybe I can just copy past that old comment to you so you can read it.